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Scientists believe 5,300-year-old mummified 'ice man' belonged to unknown branch of human fam. tree
Daily Mail ^ | 31 Oct 2008 | Daily Mail

Posted on 10/31/2008 10:15:15 AM PDT by BGHater

A 5,300-year-old mummified 'ice man' unearthed in the Alps belonged to a previously unknown branch of the human family tree, scientists have discovered.

No trace of the lineage appears to remain today, meaning that the 'ice man' - dubbed 'Oetzi' - is unlikely to have any descendants.

Oetzi's mummified remains were found in September 1991 in the Eastern Alps near the Austro-Italian border.

The 5,300-year-old remains of Oetzi the iceman. Scientists have failed to trace his lineage, fearing his family may have become extinct

He was about 46 years old when he met his violent death. Examinations revealed that he had been wounded by an arrow and possibly finished off with a mace blow to the face.

Since 1998 he has been on display at the South Tyrol Museum of Archaeology in Bolzano, Italy.

Scientists have now built up a complete picture of Oetzi's mitochondrial DNA, which is always passed down to future generations by mothers. This is DNA in the mitochondria, tiny power plants in cells that generate energy.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: dna; emptydna; genetics; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; iceman; mtdna; mummy; oetzi
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Scientists believe 5,300-year-old mummified 'ice man' belonged to unknown branch of human family tree

I had to edit to fit into title header.

1 posted on 10/31/2008 10:15:16 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping

Ice man in the news again.


2 posted on 10/31/2008 10:15:52 AM PDT by BGHater (The GOP, the new DNC.)
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To: BGHater

Let’s face it. Having a spear point embedded in your groin would stop most of us from, ah, “procreating”...


3 posted on 10/31/2008 10:17:34 AM PDT by pabianice (Inexplicable and infuriating.)
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To: BGHater

We are going to go see him in December!


4 posted on 10/31/2008 10:17:44 AM PDT by conservative cat (I am voting for Sarah and against Obama.)
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To: conservative cat

Tell him gundog says “hey.”


5 posted on 10/31/2008 10:21:46 AM PDT by gundog (Not guilty...by reason of inanity.)
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To: BGHater
The Iceman was/is haplogroup 'K'...the same as Thomas Jefferson. (Who is K2)

Ancient DNA

6 posted on 10/31/2008 10:28:58 AM PDT by blam
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1995 VIDEO OF OBAMA: Reverend Wright represents the best of what The Black Church has to offer

7 posted on 10/31/2008 2:50:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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Thanks BGHater. He has no living descendants, but some hypothetical unknown undocumented person in southern China, living about 1500 BC, is the ancestor of everyone. /rimshot!

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8 posted on 10/31/2008 3:07:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: conservative cat
We are going to go see him in December!

Big deal. I'm expecting him to vote Tuesday....

9 posted on 10/31/2008 3:10:46 PM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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whoops!

Ancient iceman probably has no modern relatives
Yahoo News | October, 30, 2008 | Reporting by Michael Kahn
Posted on 10/30/2008 2:49:25 PM PDT by MissCalico
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2120078/posts


10 posted on 10/31/2008 3:46:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv; null and void

You said I could have some chocolate if I helped with this “one little thing.”

Now I find there’s no DNA? OK. That does it. I’m wise to you, now. See if I ever help you lure someone into camp again “for fun and profit.”

*sheesh*


11 posted on 10/31/2008 3:52:48 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Consciousness ~~ that annoying time between naps.)
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To: BGHater
"Scientists believe 5,300-year-old mummified 'ice man' belonged to unknown branch of human family tree"

Oetzi's probably just another one of Obama's long-lost relatives.

12 posted on 10/31/2008 3:55:23 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: BGHater

Gee reporters are dolts aren’t they.

” mitochondrial DNA, which is always passed down to future generations by mothers”

Dear Reporter, This means that the Iceman’s mtDNA lineage is not extant, it doesn’t mean HE didn’t have descendants because the IceMAN was a MAN. He could’nt pass on mtDNA to his children, only the mother of his kids could.


13 posted on 10/31/2008 4:09:21 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Monkey Face; null and void
You said I could have some chocolate if I helped with this “one little thing.”

I think he was a wizard, so couldn't have sex without destroying his powers.

Instead he just sat aound polishing the knob on the top of his staff, to keep his hand in, so to speak.

Probably didn't help matters that as a young lad he learned the hard way why you can't bugger the hedgehog.

14 posted on 10/31/2008 5:19:10 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Monkey Face

Shhh. You’ll wreck our alibi.


15 posted on 10/31/2008 5:25:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

That’s what I thought as soon as I saw those ears.


16 posted on 10/31/2008 6:18:38 PM PDT by happygrl (we are all plumbers now!)
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To: SunkenCiv

We have an alibi?
*kicks SunkenCiv in shins*

:Yells: YOU SAID WE DIDN’T NEED AN ALIBI!!!


17 posted on 11/01/2008 7:06:06 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Consciousness ~~ that annoying time between naps.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Whoa. You have a real knack with visuals!

All the wizards I know said...never mind.


18 posted on 11/01/2008 7:27:36 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Consciousness ~~ that annoying time between naps.)
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To: Monkey Face

Alas, I can’t claim credit; I’m just a good cribber.

A wizard’s staff has a knob on the end
(as possibly sung by Nanny Ogg in Terry Pratchett’s Disc-World books)

A wizard’s staff has a knob on the end
It never will buckle, it never will bend
He cherishes it, and he calls it his friend,
and he frequently takes it in hand.

A wizard’s staff is the source of his power.
He checks up on it every hour on the hour
And he’s never surprised when it turns to a flower —
The fairest throughout all the land.

The staff of a wizard with honour is crowned.
Without it a wizard will rarely be found.
‘Tis big and it’s round and weighs three to the pound
And without it he’s truly unmanned.

The staff of a wizard can do mighty deeds.
It protects him from harm and attends to his needs,
Provides him with banquets upon which he feeds
And potions on which he gets canned.

Whenever a wizard is lonely or sad,
Or feeling dejected, or puzzled, or mad,
He turns to his staff, and things don’t seem so bad —
By it he is never trepanned.

The staff of a wizard is dear to his heart
The source and the succour of his magic art.
They travel together, are never apart,
A relationship few understand.

The wizard is rarely of heroic build
Were it not for his staff, he would surely be killed.
By demons or monsters his blood would be spilled
All over the pitiless sand.

A wizard in thought, word, and deed should be chaste
If he is not, he’s considered disgraced
Although in his dreams he is often embraced
By ladies both lissom and tanned.

The staff of a wizard is polished with care.
He anoints it with spices and unguents rare,
Bedecks it with silver and jewels most fair,
And on feast days he has it japanned.

A wizard when young has a staff that is small.
It’s puny and weak, ineffective withal.
It grows with his power until it stands tall
As his fame and his glory expand

The staff of a wizard can hold many spells
For finding lost objects or dowsing new wells
For banishing demons to bottomless hells
Or bringing them back on demand.

A wizard’s staff can do manifold tricks
To puzzle the nobles and fuddle the hicks
It rescues the wizard from many a fix —
It is totally at his command.

When a wizard is old, and is starting to fade
He looks on his staff that with cunning he made
The crown of his life and the tool of his trade
And together they make their last stand.

by Heather Wood 1992


19 posted on 11/01/2008 11:01:48 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Ay-yi-yi!

I need to take a walk. *whoa*


20 posted on 11/01/2008 11:06:23 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Consciousness ~~ that annoying time between naps.)
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To: Monkey Face

What, you have a doity mind or sumptin?

Relax; I will not post the lyrics to the Hedgehog Song.

Nope; not me...but you can find them here:

http://sniff.numachi.com/pages/tiHEDGEHOG;ttDUNDEBON.html


21 posted on 11/01/2008 12:01:06 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: ApplegateRanch

*ohno*

*swoon*


22 posted on 11/01/2008 12:28:15 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Consciousness ~~ that annoying time between naps.)
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This diagram works for most people, but not for folks with Down's Syndrome and a few other conditions. F is for father, M for mother; each of us has up to 64 great-great-great-great-grandcestors; no more than 46 of them has had even one chromosome pair reach you; even with the occasional crossing stream, there's no more than 46, and with crossing streams, could be less.

For those who don't know, this doesn't mean the other 18 (and all of their ancestors, plus half of the ancestors of the 46) are not your ancestors -- DUH! IOW, just because the chromosomes don't make it through, doesn't mean that Oetzi (for example) has no living descendants.
F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M
F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M
F M F M F M F M F M F M F M F M
F M F M F M F M
F M F M
F M
YOU

23 posted on 07/09/2010 10:27:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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