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To: Firefigher NC

I think that more Catholics denied their faith than Evangelicans did. I should know — I am a Catholic and I admire what the Evangelicans did. Most bishops were afraid to speak up strongly for the faith in fear of the IRS.

Their tepid message was: vote your conscience. Never were the names of the candidates mentioned, or what they represented. Even today I met Catholics who lectured me on not mixing religion and politics. My head still hurts from banging it agaainst the wall.


3 posted on 11/05/2008 5:02:41 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

Being a Baptist, and routinely mixing it up with Catholics over theology, despite our theological difference I have great respect for the churchs’ pro-life stand.

But when I saw the exit data from Pennsylvania and the percent of white Catholics who voted for Obama ... my heart sank and I knew we were finished.


4 posted on 11/05/2008 5:13:08 PM PST by dartuser ("If you torture the data long enough, it will confess, even to crimes it did not commit")
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To: 353FMG
I think that more Catholics denied their faith than Evangelicans did. I should know — I am a Catholic and I admire what the Evangelicans did. Most bishops were afraid to speak up strongly for the faith in fear of the IRS.

I imagine that at least a few bishops woke up this Wednesday morning, November 5, to the realization they are now paper figureheads of the "Blue Catholic Church." Even many of the so-called strong anti-abortion statements in the last month or two by some bishops came too late in the game; and never went far enough in discplining Catholic politicians. It was as if they were posing for Rome, as if to say half-heartedly "look, see, we are doing something!" We need a house cleaning.

After 30 to 40 years of lax pastoral leadership, kumbaya and guitar masses, holding hands, 'seamless garment' theology, mamby pamby leadership (e.g. failure to name names and excommunicate Catholic politicians), etc.; it should have been no surprise that a large segment of the Roman Catholic Church in this country has now turned "Blue".

We can only hope that Rome will look in horror upon the state of the Church in the U.S.; and become more vigorous and aggressive in appointing and promoting strong, active shepherds - and dispose of the bishops who have tolerated the wolves within the flock. < / Rant >

12 posted on 11/05/2008 9:15:23 PM PST by Miles the Slasher
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