RED STATE South should Rise Up

1st ever vanity | dogged head

[DOGHEAD]

Is it time for the southern states to rise up and either A) stand up to the Republican establishment b.) Create a third party that has basic conservative principles including the right to life of the unborn, Lower taxes and the elimination of certain taxes altogether, a strong national defense, elimination of federal education programs, smaller government, protection of 2nd amendment rights.

Southerners really had no candidate in this election.

[Clemenza]

Don't look now, but Florida has been a Yankee state for at least 25 years now, and Virginny and Nawth Carolina aren't that far behind.

[cripplecreek]

So what do you do with the democrat supporters who are already there?

[DOGHEAD]

Absolutely Florida does not count as a “southern” state.

[ShadowDancer]

A) stand up to the Republican establishment

Stand up how? Give details. That smacks of 'We need change'. Change how? Most of them can't answer that question. What's the answer to yours?

[oyez]

Third parties have already been tried in the South and all they ever did was drive us deeper into a hole.

[IronJack]

I don’t know that that insurrection should be limited to the South. NO conservative had a candidate this election.

[AngryCapitalist]

NO!!!! What we have to do is HIJACK the Republican party in the same manner in which the Left Hijacked the Dem party 60 years ago!

www.hostileopposition.blogspot.com

[Moconservative]

Third parties do not work in the US. The two parties co-opt what the third party is established for and thereby kill the third party.

A recent example—Where is Perot? His party is non-existant because the Republicans or Democrats take his platform and put it into their party.

We have to work within the two party system to affect change. I do favor all of us moving to one state!—Joking

[Clemenza]

During my first sojourn in the Sunshine State (1991-1994), it was as if I never left Lawn Guyland (albeit with more palm trees and soggier bread).

[SMCC1]

All I know is that is was ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS the other day when Haley Barbour took on Chris Matthews on Taxes and left Matthews conceding defeat. Barbour is this big protypical “hick” with the southern accent that the media portrays as a stupid yokel. And Matthews is of course part of the arrogant, elite, big city media. Yet, Haley whipped his butt.

[DOGHEAD]

What I saw was Yankees and African Americans team up
to deliver the presidency to the fartherest left leaning candidate in history. Did you see how the southern states came through for the Republican party regardless?
Right now it appears to me that the Republican party needs the south more than the south needs the Republican party.

[ROTB]

1) the communists made no bones of their intention to subvert BOTH major parties, and have done so
2) taking them back is easier

Don’t make the classic “3rd party” mistake. You are assuming the whole right is made of Achilles types, and it is not.

There are leaders, and there are sheeple who vote for RINOs like R-nold “because he can win”. You will never win anything without the Regan/Bush43 coalition, and you will never get it in a 3rd party.

Take back the Republican party. It is ours!

[Clemenza]

Regional parties are not without precedent. The Social Credit Party was largely the western Canadian party for most of its history, the CSU in Germany is essentially the Bavarian party. You have the Lega Nord in Italy, etc.

It would mean the mess of a multiparty Republic. You think horse trading is noxious now, just wait until the southerners need to form a ruling coalition with the Greens. ;-)

[Viking2002]

Florida's political affiliation should be designated 'Leisure World'. (The rest of us know them as 'poll workers'.) These are the same old farts scared into believing that conservatives will have them eating cans of cat food, but write $5,000 checks to gypsies who tell them that their perfectly-good bungalo needs a roof, then slip out before they erect a single ladder.

[dr_who]

Let liberals tear the country apart, not conservatives. Remember that.

[Zevonismymuse]

Southerners really had no candidate in this election.

Black Southerners did.

[tstarr]

My first post on FreeRepublic. I live in St. Petersburg Florida and there are plenty of conservatives here and in Tampa. I stood in line Saturday to vote and was inundated by Obama supporters. Clearly some illegal things going on too - not a single McCain sign was visible the entire time in line, Obama posters inside the building where we vote, poll workers talking about how historic it was going to be when Obama was elected, etc. I don’t want to go through that again in 4 years.

We just moved down here and the first thing I’d like to see here is to have either closed primaries or a caucus the next time around. Too many Dems crossing over for the candidate they wanted (McCain). That would be a good start.

My wife and I will be working to rebuild the conservatives in Florida so that we can have a different result next time. I’m afraid we’re going to have 4 years of Jimmy Carter all over again and I will be pointing that out to everyone I meet. I hope some of these people wanting socialism can learn what it truly means by 2012.

[Ranjit]

Stop this nonsense of 3rd party. It looks like, North carolina was lost because of the 3rd party. The libertarian candidate got 25,000 votes. I am 100% positive that, 24,000 of those votes were disgruntled Republicans. The margin between obama and McCain is about 10,000. Still, they have a republican county to count and it might come to 5,000 difference.

It will not make any difference but the psych of voters have changed. North carolina is becoming a battle ground.

[Ranjit]

Excellent!! we conservatives talk but not get involved in the ground work. Let us start building the ground work by registering new voters. Let us get into the democratic counties and reduce the margin.

Democrats are playing a simple game. Select a state and select three urban centers and increase the margin.Meanwhile Republicans have to work all around the state to compensate the 3 urban centers. So, we have to get into their territory.

[LibertyVote]

We need to go on the offense as far as gun rights. The dems need to know that Clinton type gun legislation is off the table. Remember the rantblogger project? Lets do it here and now. Most of us will consider a gun purchase before Obama officially becomes president. Why not select a particular day. That day to remind, would be, tyrants that “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,” makes it inevitable that patriots will have a gun. Leave your email here, and check back if you’re interested http://libertytrees.blogspot.com/ . It may be better to move up our previous April 15th and July 9th buy a gun days because it may be more difficult to buy one on after Barack Hussein Obama is sworn in. We have the same problem if we wait until 6/26/09 to commemorate District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. ___, decided on June 26, 2008.

[possumdawg]

Wake up.. Conservatives don't have a party or the intra structure to run a major campaign. The Republican party here in Georgia is made up of good ole boys stuck in the past. New ideas scare them.

Many of us have tried to help with organizing, marketing ideas, and just trying to get our message out, but the local GOP folks ignore us. We aren't the right folks I guess.

Socialism is what we have now.

[DeepInTheHeartOfTexas]

I think this country is going to have to hit bottom before we can push our way back to the surface, and Hussein is just the one to take us that low.

[Ranjit]

You are totally right. I worked as an volunteer for our local county in North carolina and it was a bunch of old guys in their 70’s organizing the volunteers. He is writing my name and place of precincts in a big old yellow sheets.

There was 2 computers in the office and they had no idea to use a spread sheet or even a simple word document. We need to get into universities and make students proud to be conservative. Perception is everything in politics. We need to atleast show a presence in Universities and reduce the margins of liberals in university towns. It can be done.

[Billy Bud]

Some good points all around. It's back to basics. We stand on our conservative principles; smaller government, lower taxes, strong national defense, etc. By compromising our principles; (reaching across the aisle), we have totally taken ourselves out of power. Our Conservative policies are a winning formula if we get the right people elected. Why do you think the MSM went to destroy Palin, she connected with the base, they had to finish her off. Whether or not they succeeded is up to her and all of us. We need start looking for leaders that can articulate our principles; and when challenged on them, we must not back down or compromise. Compromise got us McCain, and while I credit him for doing his best on the campaign trail, and admire his patriotism and service to our country, we all know it won't be long when he's reaching across the aisle to make another deal that's going to drive us all nuts. Enough is enough, we all need to get involved all the way down at the local level and start working our way up. It's going to take a lot of hard work and an investment of our time, but if we want our country we need to start now. Because the three Stogies who are in charge soon, are going to do their best to transform it into a huge social experiment.
To my friends in the south, we need you, if you think you are frustrated trying being in the lovely swing state of Pennsylvania, where three or four counties turn the whole state from Red to Blue.
Conservative principles succeed whenever they are adhered to. It's the compromise of those principles that weakens us. When the Dems see that, the pounce, they are like vultures, they are good at this stuff. They know its a continuous battle that needs constant attention. Our leaders are to busy “getting along”..Frustrated on how far we have fallen, but optimistic and energized to assist on turning this around.

[tstarr]

I agree that Hussein may be the catalyst for a conservative rebirth. My son is going to college and is exposed to a lot of the liberal and socialist propaganda. Even going to a Catholic high school and being in Boy Scouts (Eagle Scout like his dad) didn’t insulate him from being intrigues by liberalism when that’s all he heard on campus. What he found was that the people who were treating him fairly and with respect were conservatives, and the people who were cheating him and using him were liberals. It sounds like there are millions of people who need to learn the hard way as well.

When all those free mortgages and other goodies don’t materialize because conservative find ways to insulate themselves from some of that, what are these slackers going to do? Hopefully, they learn.

[oyez]

You wrote

Stop this nonsense of 3rd party.

I wrote

Third parties have already been tried in the South and all they ever did was drive us deeper into a hole.

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We agree. OK?

[IronJack]

It wasn’t just the South. The Midwest and Central Mountain states did their part too. The states that went pinko were the Usual Suspects.

[IronJack]

If your GOP is that ossified, then it’s all the more critical to replace them. Adios, RINOsaurs!

[mad_as_he$$]

Florida is in it's own space time continuum.

[numberonepal]

Haley Barbour took on Chris Matthews

Your comment makes me wonder why Governors or Red States don't stand up to Washington a little more for their constituents. They, too, have the bully pulpit should they choose to use it. I'm certain that Barbour, Perdue, Riley, Jindal, et al have more spine than the Pubbies in Congress. I, for one, would like to see some of these men in Senate hearings on taxes.

[who knows what evil?]

The states that went pinko were the Usual Suspects.

Amen.

[Hyzenthlay]

Um, correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t there already a candidate running on these principles exactly in this election? Only, nobody much voted for him cause he was third-party...