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Opinions Please - Should I get a CCW permit? (Vanity)

Posted on 11/07/2008 8:20:24 AM PST by chickpundit

I have been wanting to pursue a CCW permit for a while. I just wonder if it's a good idea in an Obama administration. Will I be an easier target for gun confiscation if I'm a registered CCW holder?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; guncontrol; guns; handguns

1 posted on 11/07/2008 8:20:26 AM PST by chickpundit
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To: chickpundit

It will be confiscated a heck of a lot sooner if you’re pulled over and it is deemed to be concealed, as well as other possible ramifications. I got mine a couple months ago.


2 posted on 11/07/2008 8:23:44 AM PST by DadOfFive
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To: chickpundit

I’ve been wondering the same thing.


3 posted on 11/07/2008 8:24:43 AM PST by leftyontheright
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To: chickpundit

If I had a CWC, I’d “lose” the gun and turn in the permit.


4 posted on 11/07/2008 8:26:12 AM PST by unkus
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To: chickpundit
Hopefully the 2nd amendment won't be repealed while That 0ne is in office. I say do it.

Handgun purses are a great way to carry.


5 posted on 11/07/2008 8:26:14 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Palin/Jindal '12---Now dog gone it, you betcha!)
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To: chickpundit

I think FR should issue permits for vanities.


6 posted on 11/07/2008 8:26:25 AM PST by devane617 (Fish died on his Harley when he hit a camel at dusk.)
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To: chickpundit

I’d get the permit. It will take a while, I’d guess, for a federal law contradicting the second and 10th amendments to get approved by even an Obama court. And in the meantime you’ll have another margin of self-directed responsibility for your safety.


7 posted on 11/07/2008 8:26:33 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: chickpundit
I have been wanting to pursue a CCW permit for a while. I just wonder if it's a good idea in an Obama administration

If not now...when?

YOU are responsible for your own protection. No one else.

8 posted on 11/07/2008 8:26:46 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: DadOfFive

I follow the law, and will not conceal my pistol unless and until I get a license. Just wondering if being registered that way makes me more of a target.


9 posted on 11/07/2008 8:27:10 AM PST by chickpundit (Palin '12)
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To: chickpundit

Yes and yes.

That is why one should have more than one ‘item’ but then again maybe is just me.


10 posted on 11/07/2008 8:28:24 AM PST by elpinta (Insured by Walther, Glock, Smith & Wesson.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"Triple-K" Brand?

You gotta be kidding me!

11 posted on 11/07/2008 8:28:32 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: chickpundit

I hope my daughter will get one. She was driving the children to school this morning and was almost run down by Obama supporters. They were cussing her out and yelling out racial words to her while trying to run her off the road. We called the police but theres really nothing they can do sense she was not able to get a tag number for the car.
This is going to be a long 4 years..


12 posted on 11/07/2008 8:29:57 AM PST by VairyAngel (An army of ordinary people, A kingdom where love is the key,)
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To: chickpundit

part of it depends on your state. doesn’t matter one way or another if your state has registration on handguns, you’ll be targeted anyway.


13 posted on 11/07/2008 8:30:38 AM PST by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: chickpundit
Get it . In my jurisdiction a permit holder can buy weapons with no further checking and waiting . That alone makes the permit worth it IMHO . When pulled over the first words out of your mouth should be you have a permit and wait for instructions from the officer . The police appreciate it so much they seem to get over the “us against them” attitude . If the Stalinists start using CCW and FFL records to facilitate confiscation the big game is on anyway .
14 posted on 11/07/2008 8:32:02 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: chickpundit

Someone the other day recommended to a FReeper in CA that they not get one and just take their chances. My husband just got his in October. We are in CO. I actually encouraged him to pursue it although it didn’t take much. Your question has come up in my mind too, but I think we did the right thing by getting it.


15 posted on 11/07/2008 8:33:23 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: OKSooner

The Glock Store has a nice selection.

http://glockstore.com/index/10/


16 posted on 11/07/2008 8:36:10 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks (Palin/Jindal '12---Now dog gone it, you betcha!)
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To: chickpundit

Get it.

If they try to confiscate, just say your guns were stolen.

Uh.....you’ll have to hide the guns somewhere off property before the soldiers with German Shepherds show up.


17 posted on 11/07/2008 8:36:26 AM PST by LeoOshkosh (Crazy Leo is right again)
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To: chickpundit

Don’t wait another minute. The leftists cannot confiscate guns thanks to Heller, but they will regulate ammo, gun shows and dealers. They will create so much obfuscation, ordinary people will be deterred.

Remember, an armed person is a citizen. An unarmed person is a subject.


18 posted on 11/07/2008 8:40:05 AM PST by NoKoolAidforMe ("Victory at all costs...for without true victory, there is no survival." Winston Churchill)
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To: chickpundit

I would get it if you feel you need it, not because of 0bama. Worst case scenario: 0bama bans ownership of firearms. It won’t matter if you have a permit or not. Every gun owner would be a “criminal” in that case. Good luck trying to arrest us all.


19 posted on 11/07/2008 8:40:29 AM PST by edpc
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To: chickpundit
The CCW goes with you, not with the weapons you own. They are registered separately at the time of purchase.

Presumably, anyone with a CCW or a registered gun will be thoroughly searched when confiscation time rolls around.
Presumably, we will be expected to produce every gun we have REGISTERED at the minimum.

If you currently own unregistered guns, I personally would avoid getting a CCW and be sure to only carry in the open if at all. If all the guns you currently own are registered, then it is convenient to have your CCW in case you accidentally throw a book on top of your pistol lying on the front seat of the car and to be less intimidating in public.

You are allowed to open-carry without a CCW. But if you are going to conceal those guns away from your property in ANY way, you better have a permit.

Does all this make sense?

20 posted on 11/07/2008 8:40:37 AM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: chickpundit

21 posted on 11/07/2008 8:41:21 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: VairyAngel

You wouldnt believe it on the trains. I had to get the law after one guy gets on, starts shouting, ‘we gonna paint the white house BLACK!’, and wouldn’t stop yakking. When I came up to collect his ticket, he shouts, “ why should I have ta pay? A BLACK MAN is now in the white house! I don’t have ta pay!”
You should of seen the halo pop out when the law met him at newark penn sta. Ha! Respectfully, he bought his ticket.


22 posted on 11/07/2008 8:47:16 AM PST by conductor john (from jersey)
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To: evets
It is the accessories that really finish a nice outfit .
23 posted on 11/07/2008 8:53:32 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: conductor john

That sounds like a scary situation as well. My daughter was pretty shaken up over what happened. She was more worried about the children than anything else. Thank God nothing got out of hand for her and also for you.


24 posted on 11/07/2008 8:53:43 AM PST by VairyAngel (An army of ordinary people, A kingdom where love is the key,)
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To: chickpundit

Get it. Always carry. Never tell.


25 posted on 11/07/2008 8:54:44 AM PST by ironwill (I want my daddy's records.)
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To: chickpundit

What State?


26 posted on 11/07/2008 9:02:04 AM PST by Southern Partisan
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To: DadOfFive

I’m 74 years old and I don’t think I’ve been “pulled over” more than three times. All three of those occasioans I just sat in my car while the nice officer (/sarc) wrote me a citation. I was always carrying a pistol but I could have been carrying a sawed-off shotgun and it would never have been noticed. Recently, with the advent of arthritis, I’ve stopped carrying anything. The chance of fighting off a bad guy compared to the probability of me shooting my a$$ off was a definite factor in that decision.

If you check the lights on your car once a week and refrain from driving like an idiot the chance of getting “pulled over” decreases dramatically.


27 posted on 11/07/2008 9:06:52 AM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: kbennkc
When pulled over the first words out of your mouth should be you have a permit and wait for instructions from the officer.

In my class, I was taught to always give the officer both my permit and drivers license.

28 posted on 11/07/2008 9:12:54 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Handgun purses are a great way to carry.

Do you have one of those purses? Do they work well? My wife does not carry her S&W Airweight enough, IMO, because she does not have a good way to carry it (I carry my .38 in a pocket holster). That purse looks interesting. Can you walk with the purse on your shoulder and your hand on the gun?

29 posted on 11/07/2008 9:15:41 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: Clint N. Suhks
If you buy your wife a custom made leather gun purse to carry the semi rare Python you pretended to give her , be sure she does not also routinely carry chewing gum . There is a known risk your pet rat will chew a much larger than rat size door in the purse , eat the entire pack of gum , become ill and leave gummy evidence of rat sickness all over the aforementioned jointly owned Python .
30 posted on 11/07/2008 9:16:14 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: Sans-Culotte
In my class, I was taught to always give the officer both my permit and drivers license.

I am not disagreeing with your training , but my personal preference is to tell the officer before I make any movement . I turn my dome light on before the officer gets to the car and I keep my hands on the wheel until he asks me to do something . Yes I get pulled over often , I don't drive like an idiot , but I have business interests with calls at 2 or 3 in the morning . They get curious , it is their job .

31 posted on 11/07/2008 9:26:30 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: VairyAngel

That’s frightening! I’m sorry that happened. It probably would be wise for her to arm herself. I’ve never experienced anything like that, but I should probably be prepared for such a situation.


32 posted on 11/07/2008 9:38:11 AM PST by chickpundit (Palin '12)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I’m a little nervous about the best way to carry. I would prefer to have it on my person, but that may not be practical. I will do some research on a purse. I would just have to remember never to put it down.


33 posted on 11/07/2008 9:43:11 AM PST by chickpundit (Palin '12)
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To: Sans-Culotte
"In my class, I was taught to always give the officer both my permit and drivers license."

No need in my State. CWP records are linked to DMV here. They immediately know the instant they run your plates whether or not you've been issued a CWP. They'll be fully prepared before they walk up on you. When the officer appears at your window, he'll ask "are you armed?" If yes, he'll ask where it is, and ask you to keep your hands away from it.
34 posted on 11/07/2008 9:55:57 AM PST by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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To: chickpundit
Yes. Definitely get your permit. I know this may sound counter-intuitive, but the pattern among gun-grabbers around the world has been to require:
licensing
registration
proof of competency
proof of membership in a shooting club
Get the picture? If nothing else, having a CWP may ultimately provide a modicum of assurance the "the tiger eats you last." As far as finding gun holders with a view towards confiscation...well there's no escaping that. They'll know the minute you purchase one. It's only a matter of tweaking legislation to the point where they can sift through all the available electronic records: bought ammo, targets, firearms accessories, or paid for range time on your credit or debit card? Purchased arms within the last 15 years? The data's out there just waiting to be mined.
35 posted on 11/07/2008 10:13:46 AM PST by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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To: PowderMonkey

That makes sense. Also, the cost and regulations required to acquire a permit may increase in the future.


36 posted on 11/07/2008 10:35:51 AM PST by chickpundit (Palin '12)
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To: chickpundit

When I first got my CCW permit in PA I did it for convenience. Here in PA, at least, you can’t transport a loaded weapon in your car unless you have a CCW — even if the weapon is under the seat, armrest or in the glovebox. If no CCW the gun must be unloaded, locked and stored separate from the ammo (ie. ammo in the glovebox; handgun in the trunk).

I have a shooting range just around the corner from me. It’s a pain in the butt going through that evolution just to go practice.

Oh, and with all the stuff on the horizon I’ve begun carrying whenever I leave the property. You might want to give consideration to the fact that if you get into a beef it might be enough to prevent you from getting the CCW when you need it, but not enough that you’d have to surrender it if you already had it. Bureaucracies being what they are.


37 posted on 11/07/2008 10:45:20 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Sans-Culotte
In my class, I was taught to always give the officer both my permit and drivers license.

I've done just that & the (PA State) trooper looked at me like I'd just grown a second head. Didn't even thank me. Apparently they already know (DMV records) and it just isn't necessary.

38 posted on 11/07/2008 10:53:11 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: chickpundit

yes.


39 posted on 11/07/2008 11:13:54 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: All

Thanks everyone for the input.


40 posted on 11/07/2008 2:27:46 PM PST by chickpundit (Palin '12)
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To: chickpundit

I have had a CCW permit for over 15 years and just renewed mine. I would buy a gun face-to-face to avoid the background check and paperwork trail if legal in your state. You could always get another old beater gun, but reliable like a revolver, for the nightstand and turn that one in if it ever came to that.


41 posted on 11/07/2008 4:50:56 PM PST by MtnClimber (O'bomber: fake messiah, fake religion, fake hope!)
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To: chickpundit

The only reason to consider not getting a CCW is if neither you nor anyone else in your household has EVER purchased a firearms through normal dealer channels. If you are a firearms “virgin” with no record that you ever owned one (you never filled out a form or showed ID when buying a gun), then you might be wise to stay that way.

But if you have bought a gun from a shop, then get the CCW, because you’re already in the database.

Of course, I hope you live in a free state where private gun transfers are legal, and you buy through the classified, Internet ads (from people in your state) and gun shows.


42 posted on 11/09/2008 8:28:17 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Politicians, like diapers, should be changed often. And for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: PowderMonkey

No need in my State. CWP records are linked to DMV here. They immediately know the instant they run your plates whether or not you’ve been issued a CWP. They’ll be fully prepared before they walk up on you. When the officer appears at your window, he’ll ask “are you armed?” If yes, he’ll ask where it is, and ask you to keep your hands away from it.


Simple solution: Register your car to a corporation. Ideally, to an out of state corporation you formed. Heck, just register them in your wife’s name (assuming she doesn’t have a CCW).


43 posted on 11/09/2008 8:30:54 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Politicians, like diapers, should be changed often. And for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: DadOfFive; chickpundit
CP your home page does not say what state you are in. Here, in Nevada your car is considered the same as your home. You can carry a whole carload and nobody will say a thing. Could make some cops nervous one day but that is all part of the fun.
44 posted on 11/09/2008 8:32:53 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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