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New African-American Freerper (Vanity)
11-9-2008 | Obushma

Posted on 11/09/2008 5:45:35 PM PST by Obushma

Hi All Freepers! I am a new Freeper---been here to just read news and posts for over a year and now am motivated to do something after the disappointing loss on last Tuesday. Below is where I stand politically and my two cents where the GOP needs to move to for success---I do NOT endorse scrapping the GOP for a new party. I endorse gaining control of the GOP from the grass roots with some cosmetic/PR changes:

I voted for McCain-Palin although I’m not a Republican. I'm now strongly considering formally joining the GOP.

As of now I support Sarah Palin to run in 2012.

My thoughts on some Public Relation changes (Not Necessarily Changes in Principles):

1 Drop the formal opposition to Affirmative Action : This mutes the charge of “historical opposition/indifference to civil rights”. The opposition to AA/Quotas can remain in principle.

2 Drop the formal opposition to “Amnesty” for Illegal Immigrants: Focus on securing the borders. The status of the 20 million or so illegal immigrants is now more or less an Obama/Democrat problem and has been essentially a lost issue for the GOP. We in opposition to Obama will need to cut into his Hispanic support in 2012 in order to defeat him.

3 Drop formal opposition to Environmentalism. Yes, I know that environmental extremist are nuts, but the GOP must recognize when a battle is probably lost and not waste precious political capital on what I consider minor issues (especially when there will be major battles to be fought over major issues). Remember this is just a formal dropping of an issue, but not the issue itself in principle.

4 Focus on middle class, middle class, middle class!

5 Focus on domestic/economic/education issues. Less on foreign policy. To be sure there will certainly be new issues of both to tackle in ’12, but I can guarantee with the failed economic policies put in place by The Obama administration---domestic policies will again be front and center.

6 Build bridges to unions/working class. Historically Unions and the GOP have been arch-enemies. But the alliance between big business and the GOP in decline. Big Business seem to have found a new love REDs---“Rich Elite Democrats”. We need to counter this with courting some of there core constituencies. This may have already have begun in West Virginia and among many Hillary Clinton Dems.

7 Continue with strong opposition to Gay “marriage”, Abortion and Adult Euthanasia.

8 Continue with strong opposition to Islamic Extremism, and Socialistic Liberal Extremism.

9 Continue to be strong on crime, the death penalty and gun ownership rights.

Sorry for what you guys call a “Vanity” but these were just some of my post-election observations as a right of center African American. Tell me what all you Freepers think!


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1 posted on 11/09/2008 5:45:35 PM PST by Obushma
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To: Obushma
ahhhh...
2 posted on 11/09/2008 5:47:34 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Self-ping for later


3 posted on 11/09/2008 5:47:35 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: Obushma

The HillaryClintonForum.net used to welcome everybody except the BO trolls. Now that the election is over they are welcoming everybody. Come help us put these people in their places!

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/


4 posted on 11/09/2008 5:47:41 PM PST by DoneWithDems
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To: Obushma
Welcome aboard...and see my tag line.
5 posted on 11/09/2008 5:47:43 PM PST by T Lady (Palin-Jindal 2012)
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To: Obushma

Welcome to Free Republic! We’ve got our work cut out for us, and we need everyone we can get.


6 posted on 11/09/2008 5:47:44 PM PST by jpl (Does anybody have seven hundred billion dollars I can borrow?)
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To: Obushma

Welcome to FR!
Don’t take anything personally. You really are welcome here!


7 posted on 11/09/2008 5:48:27 PM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Obushma

HA HA YOU FUNNY


8 posted on 11/09/2008 5:48:31 PM PST by hercuroc
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To: Obushma

Freerper? welcome freerper


9 posted on 11/09/2008 5:48:46 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Obushma

environmentalism is not a minor issue as tougher laws will only raise the price of fuel and raw materials which in turn raises the price of end goods. We could have much more development in this country if it weren’t for green laws.


10 posted on 11/09/2008 5:49:04 PM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Obushma

Welcome abroad and you look like you will fit in well around here.


11 posted on 11/09/2008 5:49:53 PM PST by Lady GOP
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To: Obushma

1,2, and 3. Sheesh lets just become democrats and be done with it.


12 posted on 11/09/2008 5:50:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Obushma

Wow. Talk about putting the “vain” back in Vanity. Is there anything else that we conservatives can do for you? Back rub, maybe?


13 posted on 11/09/2008 5:51:02 PM PST by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: Obushma

Mexican-Polish American here. I’m no longer just an American. I want to be special. Being just an American is stupid when you can reap the benefits of being a hypenated American.


14 posted on 11/09/2008 5:51:07 PM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98...Ain't no Newbie!)
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To: Obushma
Color/ancestral heritage isn't important here. CONSERVATIVE VALUES ARE.

(If I may be so bold as to assume that I have the right...)Welcome!

15 posted on 11/09/2008 5:51:16 PM PST by bannie
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To: Obushma

I look forward to replies on this one. This should generate more than a few rich responses.


16 posted on 11/09/2008 5:51:23 PM PST by USMA '71
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To: Obushma

welcome and thanks for the thoughts...

my two cents- Repulicans are not “against” enviromentalism- we breathe the same air as the rats...we are just not the same environuts the rat wingers are...and I get the same bland BS everytime I debate this point with a rat-winger; since I think man made global warming is a joke it sudden means I am for pollution and against conservation- of course nothing is further from the truth...

I agree with you completely on the hispanic/latino vote...the best way to go about this is get solid, conservative hispanics/latinos running for office on the GOP ticket....


17 posted on 11/09/2008 5:52:21 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

I wanna be hyphenated too.


18 posted on 11/09/2008 5:52:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Obushma
Welcome. I think your right. It's all about the middle class. Let's say a permanent tax cut for them!

RightWingIt.com

19 posted on 11/09/2008 5:52:39 PM PST by GaryLee1990 (www.RightWingIt.com)
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To: Obushma

Welcome to FR. You’ve put a lot of thoughts into your first post, so maybe we’ll forgive the vanity, lol.

The trouble with your proposals is that you’re shedding core issues left and right, and only holding on to the social conservative concerns. Don’t get me wrong, social issues are important to me, personally, and to a large segment of the “base,” but nationally, that won’t get very far. It’s tantamount to turning into an Americanized “Christian Democrats.” We have a coalition, of business, of small government advocates, of defense hawks and of religious people. Remove too many of those blocs, and you don’t have the numbers to win national elections.


20 posted on 11/09/2008 5:54:00 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Jet Jaguar; Obushma

Freerpers are excited newbies.

Welcome :)


22 posted on 11/09/2008 5:54:30 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: cripplecreek

By all means, please join us in the new super-hyphenated USA. Hyphens are your friends.


23 posted on 11/09/2008 5:55:14 PM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98...Ain't no Newbie!)
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To: cripplecreek

make that 1,2,3,4,5


24 posted on 11/09/2008 5:55:46 PM PST by stylin19a ( Real Men don't declare unplayable lies)
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To: Obushma

Welcome to FreeRepublic Obushma.

I agree with your points 7-9.

If I agreed with the wording on the rest of your post;
I would:

1. Be called a RINO.
2. Possibly qualify for a job with the Obama administration.

P.S. ALL Americans (even un-hyphenated Americans) are welcome here.


25 posted on 11/09/2008 5:56:11 PM PST by Cindy
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To: cripplecreek; Obushma

Cripple-Creek.

There.
Happy now?...:)

[and welcome to FR Obushma!]


26 posted on 11/09/2008 5:56:35 PM PST by Salamander (Welcome to Obamageddon! The best apocalypse foreign money can buy!)
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To: Obushma

Those are all irrelevant issues pressed by the democrats and deemed to be critical. So how do you deal with THAT except to FIGHT their stupid allegations?


27 posted on 11/09/2008 5:57:42 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (May socialism end up in the black hole with lost socks......)
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To: Obushma; Saint Athanasius
I do NOT endorse scrapping the GOP for a new party.

Welcome!

I agree with you on this point. The official platform of the GOP already represents what most of us here on Free Republic believe. If we form a new party, that party's platform would be essentially identical to the GOP.

The problem has been that individuals within the GOP do not adhere to the platform -- or they are just morons -- or both. So if a new party is started, how are we going to keep the same thing from happening in the new party?

What we need to do is purify the GOP. (hence my handle)

28 posted on 11/09/2008 5:57:53 PM PST by rhinohunter
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To: Obushma
So far so good


29 posted on 11/09/2008 6:00:37 PM PST by JoeProBono ( Loose Associations - Postcards from My Mind)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

What kind of freebies will becoming a homosexual pedophile necrophiliac Eskimo German transsexual feminist get me?


30 posted on 11/09/2008 6:01:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Obushma

Welcome!


31 posted on 11/09/2008 6:03:21 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Obushma

Drop 1-6.


32 posted on 11/09/2008 6:03:48 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Obushma; All

I will respond after restating your suggestions:

1 Drop the formal opposition to Affirmative Action : This mutes the charge of “historical opposition/indifference to civil rights”. The opposition to AA/Quotas can remain in principle.

* Affirmative Action is de facto raicism. It denies equal protection under the law and is an unintended admission that one race is non-competitive with another, something I doubt you want to say. The problemm is not opportunity, but the attitude to succeed. Waves of immigrants for centuries have proven this to be true.

2 Drop the formal opposition to “Amnesty” for Illegal Immigrants: Focus on securing the borders. The status of the 20 million or so illegal immigrants is now more or less an Obama/Democrat problem and has been essentially a lost issue for the GOP. We in opposition to Obama will need to cut into his Hispanic support in 2012 in order to defeat him.

* So, rule by law is no longer operative?

3 Drop formal opposition to Environmentalism. Yes, I know that environmental extremist are nuts, but the GOP must recognize when a battle is probably lost and not waste precious political capital on what I consider minor issues (especially when there will be major battles to be fought over major issues). Remember this is just a formal dropping of an issue, but not the issue itself in principle.

* I think you might have something here but not for the reasons you offer. While the science of “global warming” is highly suspect, there are many reasons that we should be thinking about better environmentally friendly policies. But not drilling in Alaska makes libs look ultra-stupid.

4 Focus on middle class, middle class, middle class!

* Correct!

5 Focus on domestic/economic/education issues. Less on foreign policy. To be sure there will certainly be new issues of both to tackle in ’12, but I can guarantee with the failed economic policies put in place by The Obama administration-—domestic policies will again be front and center.

* You obviously got bored with WOT. Not over yet. The Cold War is re-emerging. Foreign policy is more crucial now than ever before. We are losing our Super-Power status.

6 Build bridges to unions/working class. Historically Unions and the GOP have been arch-enemies. But the alliance between big business and the GOP in decline. Big Business seem to have found a new love REDs-—“Rich Elite Democrats”. We need to counter this with courting some of there core constituencies. This may have already have begun in West Virginia and among many Hillary Clinton Dems.

* Nixon and Reagan did build some bridges, but they did so without sacrificing philosophical conservatism. They made a case that Teamsters and others saw made sense. Unions are inherently socialistic. Taking steps toward that is NOT what we are about, especially the open ballot legislation.

7 Continue with strong opposition to Gay “marriage”, Abortion and Adult Euthanasia.

* Black babies are disproportionately being killed. Jesse Jackson raised this issue until the “white man” told him to tow the line and take his place among Democrats. Wrong is wrong.

8 Continue with strong opposition to Islamic Extremism, and Socialistic Liberal Extremism.

* Correct!

9 Continue to be strong on crime, the death penalty and gun ownership rights.

* Correct!


33 posted on 11/09/2008 6:04:12 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: cripplecreek
What kind of freebies will becoming a homosexual pedophile necrophiliac Eskimo German transsexual feminist get me? Either a high post in the Hussein administration or a warm hug and kiss from Barney Franks and Janet Reno.
34 posted on 11/09/2008 6:05:33 PM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98...Ain't no Newbie!)
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To: Obushma
2 Drop the formal opposition to “Amnesty” for Illegal Immigrants: Focus on securing the borders. The status of the 20 million or so illegal immigrants is now more or less an Obama/Democrat problem and has been essentially a lost issue for the GOP. We in opposition to Obama will need to cut into his Hispanic support in 2012 in order to defeat him.

If we buy them off with amnesty how will we be different then the dems?

I am opposed to amnesty for any reason. Pandering hasn't gotten us anywhere with hispanics. Nothing will. Bush promised them a 'new America" where everyone hears spanish in the streets and he only got 40% of the vote.

Why should one class of people be given super status? The Constitution already provides them with rights if they are here legally. Why do they need extra rights?

35 posted on 11/09/2008 6:06:34 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Obushma

Making one’s first post a vanity is like chilling old claret or beating someone else’s wife. It’s not done in the best circles, old boy.


36 posted on 11/09/2008 6:08:17 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans.)
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To: Obushma

My idea is alot less complicated. I’m for the GOP standing for individual liberties as guaranteed in our founding documents and the rule of law - regardless of ethnicity, and ALOT less government intrusion. I’m for a party that is formost concerned with defending my country and way of life.

I’m not really much interested in any other ideas on how to reform the GOP anymore.


37 posted on 11/09/2008 6:08:31 PM PST by skeeter (Its Barry's fault)
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To: Obushma

Welcome aboard, fellow black person.


38 posted on 11/09/2008 6:09:00 PM PST by rabidralph (Yeah, she's all that.)
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To: Obushma

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

As regards your points, I think we just had a Republican candidate that basically espoused every single one of your points. He got his rear handed to him by the least qualified candidate in American history. Pretty much everything you advocate is contrary to the constitution, conservatism and everything that FreeRepublic stands for.

Either you haven’t understood much of what you have read here of you are a smarter breed of troll. And for the record, hyphenated race titles, just like affirmative action, are tools used to keep Americans divided. Because conservatives are by in large not racist we will always reject these socialist propaganda tools.


39 posted on 11/09/2008 6:09:27 PM PST by Pan_Yan (America has proved it's not racist. Now it needs to prove it's not suicidal.)
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To: Obushma
Funny, you don't type black.(sarcasm)

Welcome aboard!

40 posted on 11/09/2008 6:11:36 PM PST by airborne (Adversity doesn't build character. It reveals it!)
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To: Obushma

Greetings....Welcome to FR...glad to have you on board...joining the fight to save Americas bedrock founding principles. ;o)


41 posted on 11/09/2008 6:12:33 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Flycatcher; Obushma
Talk about putting the “vain” back in Vanity. Is there anything else that we conservatives can do for you? Back rub, maybe?

Oh my, was that necessary, I would be highly offended if I were sincere and greeted by that? Maybe he's/she's the real deal, and I welcome you, Obushma. If there were a litmus test for a FReeper, I might fail it.

It's too soon to tell if I want Palin in 2012. I really liked her and saw what a magnetic personality she had. As to the GOP, I don't know what is wrong there, I see why we have to keep up with the times plus I think they aren't as inclusive of minorities as the Democrats. How we get back to real conservatism and become more inclusive at the same time, I don't see the GOP leaders being able to do that without moving more to the left. They are a vehicle for a smaller movement (FR types) within a larger one and probably can't afford to lose their religious base of which I happen to be part of, but it's not all about that with me.

I know there have been too many vanities lately, but I think it's a good way for newcomers to delurk or join in.

42 posted on 11/09/2008 6:14:34 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Obushma

Welcome. You have some good points except for the amnesty one (maybe you don’t live in SoCal!).

Re the vanity thing. I was thinking about this yesterday. People get upset over “vanities” when really what are they other than conversation starters? At this point, it seems inconsistent allowing only what is published in the left wing media to determine what is fitting for Free Republic to talk about. They should not be leading OUR choice of topics.


43 posted on 11/09/2008 6:18:08 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: cripplecreek

***1,2, and 3. Sheesh lets just become democrats and be done with it.***

ABSOLUTELY. And a few more things as well.


44 posted on 11/09/2008 6:19:51 PM PST by kitkat (THE DAY WE LOSE OUR WILL TO FIGHT IS THE DAY WE LOSE OUR FREEDOM.)
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To: Aliska
"Talk about putting the “vain” back in Vanity. Is there anything else that we conservatives can do for you? Back rub, maybe?"

Oh my, was that necessary, I would be highly offended if I were sincere and greeted by that? Maybe he's/she's the real deal

And maybe his back is sore.

45 posted on 11/09/2008 6:21:02 PM PST by Flycatcher (Strong copy for a strong America)
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To: Obushma
Sorry for what you guys call a “Vanity” but these were just some of my post-election observations as a right of center African American. Tell me what all you Freepers think!

I think you need to become an American.

Whether you are black, white, yellow or jiggly orange polka-dotted, has no bearing on whether you are a conservative or whether or not you'll be accepted or not on this forum.

That hyphenated crap always has turned me off and has no relevance on this forum unless you're trying to bait someone.

46 posted on 11/09/2008 6:21:47 PM PST by OldSmaj (Death to islam. No to Hussein. BO stinks.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

AGREED!


47 posted on 11/09/2008 6:22:39 PM PST by kitkat (THE DAY WE LOSE OUR WILL TO FIGHT IS THE DAY WE LOSE OUR FREEDOM.)
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To: cripplecreek

Well, cripple-creek, there you are.


48 posted on 11/09/2008 6:24:00 PM PST by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Obushma

mark for later


49 posted on 11/09/2008 6:30:01 PM PST by UB355 ( Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Obushma

Welcome, obushma. Hope you enjoy posting here.


50 posted on 11/09/2008 6:32:36 PM PST by madison10
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