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Focus on Putting Humans on Mars, Group Argues
space.com ^ | 11/13/08

Posted on 11/13/2008 4:49:56 PM PST by KevinDavis

NASA and other spaceflight programs worldwide should focus on putting people on Mars, not the moon, an advocacy group for space exploration said in a new plan announced today.

"The U.S. landed humans on the Moon nearly 40 years ago," said Louis Friedman, executive director of The Planetary Society. "Returning to the moon has not sufficiently excited the public and will require resources that will be badly needed elsewhere in the space program."

(Excerpt) Read more at space.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: humans; mars; nasa; space
Not gonna happen with the "Messiah" in charge..
1 posted on 11/13/2008 4:49:56 PM PST by KevinDavis
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To: markman46; AntiKev; wastedyears; ALOHA RONNIE; RightWhale; anymouse; Brett66; SunkenCiv; ...

2 posted on 11/13/2008 4:50:20 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: KevinDavis

I’m a huge Mars fan. Heinlein, Bradbury, Burroughs, they pointed us towards Mars and we should make it a priority. Love the Rovers (one is pretty sick, sad).


3 posted on 11/13/2008 4:51:27 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: KevinDavis

I suspect “The One” will cave in to the fix earth first crowd.


4 posted on 11/13/2008 4:52:44 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: KevinDavis

Considering what the economy is headed for I think NASA will be grounded for a long time to come. They won’t even be able to send people to the ISS after the shuttle is retired and I’m certain there won’t be any new funding, just drastic budget cuts in store for them.


5 posted on 11/13/2008 4:53:24 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Brett66; All

While other programs get a nice increase..


6 posted on 11/13/2008 4:55:06 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: KevinDavis; Salamander

GREAT IDEA!

I move that we first send the entire Congress of the US along with the newly elected executive branch (what the hell? send all the RINOs too.)


7 posted on 11/13/2008 4:56:34 PM PST by shibumi (...vampire outlaw of the milky way...)
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To: KevinDavis

I hereby nominate all Democrats to go first.


8 posted on 11/13/2008 4:57:04 PM PST by aWolverine
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To: aWolverine

...and all non-democRAT enviro-wackos. (I hear there’s global warming on MARS!!!)


9 posted on 11/13/2008 5:04:06 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: KevinDavis

Mars is a bit of a white elephant. The moon has Helium-3 deposits, which can be the source of fuel for fusion powerplants. China realizes this, and we’d be fools to ignore it and let the Chinese gain control over Helium-3 just to be the first to Mars.


10 posted on 11/13/2008 5:05:03 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: beethovenfan
(I hear there’s global warming on MARS!!!)

You hear correctly. In fact, the entire solar system was showing warming. That, however, was last year. This year, the temperatures are dropping all over. I guess Al Gore will now be into the Carbon Sales business, right?
11 posted on 11/13/2008 5:06:31 PM PST by aWolverine
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To: aWolverine

Mnay, many years ago when the president of France was the insufferably arrogant Charles DeGaulle, a political satire show featured the wife of Monsieur le President, “Madame DeGaulle” being interviewed concerning the French space progam.

It seemed that France was bypassing the US/Soviet race to the moon, in order to be first to launch a manned space probe to the planet Mars.

“Madame DeGaulle, why do you wish to be first to land on Mars?”

“Because, if there is intelligent life on Mars, it will speak FRENCH, of course!!”

;^)


12 posted on 11/13/2008 5:07:20 PM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My cartridges are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: KevinDavis
Focus on Putting Humans on Mars

Better clean my contact lenses! The first time I read it, I thought it said:
Focus on Putting Hamas on Mars.

Hmm! Now, that's an idea.

13 posted on 11/13/2008 5:10:55 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (If my kids make a mistake in the voting booth, I don't want them punished with a community organizer)
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To: Shadow44; All

I agree about the H3 aspect on the Moon.. Whoever controls the H3 is going to be richer than oil rich nations..


14 posted on 11/13/2008 5:12:05 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: elcid1970
“Because, if there is intelligent life on Mars, it will speak FRENCH, of course!!”

Yeah, ya gotta love the Frogs. I almost feel sorry for the Sharia pawl they are bringing down on themselves. Oh well, maybe if they hadn't tried to distance themselves so significantly from the church of the "crusaders", they might have stood a chance of retaining some French-ness. C'est la friggin' vie, huh?
15 posted on 11/13/2008 5:23:22 PM PST by aWolverine
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To: KevinDavis

This needs to be done privately, if to be done by Americans at all. It will not happen as a public venture in the US.


16 posted on 11/13/2008 5:28:41 PM PST by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: Shadow44

Human exploration of Mars is a huge waste of money and time. The place will never habitable due to it not having a powerful magnetic field. Costs of ensuring safe travel to and from the planet would dwarf any economic gain.

As for the ‘it’s human nature to explore’ argument, Queen Isabella sent Columbus on a trade mission, not on a journey of personal discovery.


17 posted on 11/13/2008 5:32:28 PM PST by Lou Budvis (Demoralize his base, Blame him for everything. Hold him to all his worthless promises)
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Spending $700 billion to pay for mistakes is a waste of money.. Not sending humans to Mars..


18 posted on 11/13/2008 5:36:24 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: KevinDavis

The first humans on Mars will be Indians or Chinese - and they won’t get there before about 2040.


19 posted on 11/13/2008 5:36:51 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: tbw2; All

Indeed..


20 posted on 11/13/2008 5:36:57 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: KevinDavis

Some already there.


21 posted on 11/13/2008 7:04:05 PM PST by Force of Truth (The "common good" will make us all common.)
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To: KevinDavis

Q: How do you get a manned mission to Mars funded?

A: Have GM and Ford change their incorporation registration location to Mars.


22 posted on 11/13/2008 7:09:16 PM PST by anymouse
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To: anymouse

I know who we can send to Mars. You know, the enemy we cannot name.

From Scary Movie Four via the Internet Movie Database.

Henry Hale: I fear the presence of the outsiders will attract those of whom we do not speak.

Female Elder #2: But if you talk about those of whom we do not speak, have you not spoken of that about which we do not talk.

Henry Hale: Do not speak of that of about which we talk of not speaking... about


23 posted on 11/13/2008 7:17:31 PM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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Obama got zero votes from Mars; there has to be intelligent life there. I am double certain because McCain didn’t get any votes either.


24 posted on 11/13/2008 7:22:01 PM PST by Pelagius of Asturias
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To: KevinDavis
"The U.S. landed humans on the Moon nearly 40 years ago," said Louis Friedman, executive director of The Planetary Society. "Returning to the moon has not sufficiently excited the public

Going to Mars won't excite them either. The Moon/Mars boondoggle is another major screwup by W.

25 posted on 11/13/2008 8:01:38 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Shadow44

The bottom line is we need a better launch system for getting off this planet, regardless of the ultimate goal.


26 posted on 11/13/2008 8:03:21 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: KevinDavis

“Returning to the moon has not sufficiently excited the public...”

Why set any mission priorities based on a less than desired factor of public excitement when there are so many out there who either can’t appreciate the mission because of their not having lived until the after the Challenger disaster or for the fact that they’ve taken on a certain jadedness towards space exploration as if they’ve “been there” and “done that”. I have a feeling that some of that jadedness stems from their being so immersed as “gamers” that they have a hard time appreciating the realities of the physical aspects of actual space exploration.

Talk to a fighter pilot (a real one) or an aeronautical engineer and I’ll bet the prospect of the NASA missions excites them. If you talk to your average stay-at-home mom or a HOOTERS-type girl, they’ll probably tell you that it’s a huge waste of time and money or even have not one iota of understanding of what NASA’s mission has EVER been.

So, why even bother with whether or not there is an ‘appropriate’ level of public excitement when by the time the technology is ready to come out of the labs and servers, into the machine tools and onto the launch pad, the population that the public would then consist of may have had an awakening to those modern marvels.

I don’t think it would wise for any administration to give up on the NASA missions, nor would it be wise to give up on public excitement for them, however jaded or unappreciative they may seem today.


27 posted on 11/14/2008 6:11:48 AM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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