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‘Twilight’ a Smash Hit Without Sex or Violence
Newsmax ^ | 11-24-08 | James Hirsen

Posted on 11/24/2008 10:11:59 AM PST by holy joe

Once again Hollywood and the mainstream film critics are getting slapped upside the head.

With over $70 million in box office receipts, the No. 1 movie in North America is Summit Entertainment’s teen vampire flick, “Twilight.” Among other things, it’s the biggest opening ever for a female director (Catherine Hardwicke).

Mainstream critics gave the film mixed reviews, with many horrified at the lack of big-screen sex and violence.

In a piece titled “The Love That Dare Not Bare Its Fangs,” The New York Times displayed trademark snarky disdain for the film. Critic Manohla Dargis went after Stephenie Meyer (a Mormon who penned the book from which “Twilight” was adapted) with condescending sarcasm.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: culture; hollywood; movies; twilight

1 posted on 11/24/2008 10:12:00 AM PST by holy joe
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To: holy joe

Yep! I read the reviews and had very low expectations...but the movie was great!


2 posted on 11/24/2008 10:13:14 AM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: holy joe

how do you have a movie about vampires without violence? are they happy vampires?


3 posted on 11/24/2008 10:14:44 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: holy joe

Wait I thought the vampires threw down or something at least. Don’t they! Come on man! My wife is agitating to drag me to this thing, can I at least see some vampire war or something?


4 posted on 11/24/2008 10:15:11 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: thefactor

WIthout violence OR sex! I can’t imagine what they do.


5 posted on 11/24/2008 10:15:31 AM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: holy joe

Breaking?


6 posted on 11/24/2008 10:16:54 AM PST by mmanager (It was amazing to watch a 900# Moose drag a 3,000# RINO.)
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To: HappyinAZ

My daughter is reading the book right now and she loves it.


7 posted on 11/24/2008 10:17:18 AM PST by ShadowDancer ( Losers always look for excuses. Winners never quit.)
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To: holy joe

So, now we have what? Some vampires are good? Huh? How is that possible? They’re undead and cannot see their reflections in a mirror because they are undead. They drink human blood for a living. They can’t go out in the sunlight. You kill them by driving a stake through their hearts.

How is this good?

I’ll take Bela Lugosi anytime. At least you knew where you stood with his character.


8 posted on 11/24/2008 10:17:28 AM PST by RexBeach ("There is no such thing as a good tax." Winston Churchill)
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To: holy joe

If critics pan it, no matter what it is, it’s good.......


9 posted on 11/24/2008 10:17:30 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: holy joe

Box office is the best revenge.


10 posted on 11/24/2008 10:18:11 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: holy joe
How dare some one, particularly a religious christian in terms of moral values, show up the Hollywood elite? How dare they make a wholesome movie, particularly for teens, with no sex or horrible violence?

...and what's worse, how dare these kids, and their parents...but particularly the kids...who the NEA and Hollywood have invested billions into polluting and brainwashing the other way, go to such a movie in such numbers?

Hollywood is sure to petition "the one" for reddress and to use the federal government to do something about it. I mean...unless they do something, something like this wholesomeness could easily get out of hand and spill over into condom sales, the abortion industry, and the soft porn that is all over our TVs and in prime time shows these days.

[/drippoing sarcasm]

Just goes to show you that the people of this country are starved for wholesome entertainment and will line the pockets of those who provide it.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

11 posted on 11/24/2008 10:18:38 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: holy joe
If the New York Times disdains it...then it MUST be good.
12 posted on 11/24/2008 10:19:14 AM PST by ThinkingBuddha
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To: RexBeach

This author is communicating the idea the good and evil exist in the universe, and doing it in a way that is attractive to teens.

Quite an accomplishment.


13 posted on 11/24/2008 10:20:32 AM PST by holy joe
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To: Jeff Head

Particularly now, the country desperately needs a dose of morally based story telling.


14 posted on 11/24/2008 10:22:13 AM PST by holy joe
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To: RexBeach

Been happening for years. The cross no longer works (fright night), some are actually good, now they are just misunderstood.


15 posted on 11/24/2008 10:22:28 AM PST by icwhatudo
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To: holy joe

My 14 yr. old daughter read the book and wants to go see it. I guess it is safe to let her go. Not too many movies for young teens to see besides Disney.


16 posted on 11/24/2008 10:23:17 AM PST by Qwackertoo
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To: holy joe

Amen...and to your post #13 too!


17 posted on 11/24/2008 10:23:39 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

My 13 year old just saw this movie and LOVED it!! She said it was amazing!


18 posted on 11/24/2008 10:26:29 AM PST by TeknoBeck
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To: TeknoBeck
My wife has read all the books...as has my 30 year old daughter, and my 20 year old daughter-in-law. All loved them...trying to get me to read the series (3 books to date I think...maybe 4).

My wife has me going to the movie with her this Saturday so I will let you know. She thinks there's enough entrigue and strategy in the fight between the good and bad to make it interesting to a guy movie person like me...we shall see.

But I applaud the author and the director and those who funded this. Good' on 'em.

Anytime you can stick it in the eye of the liberal Hollywood elite with strong morals and a clear distinction between right and wrong, that's a good thing in my book.

19 posted on 11/24/2008 10:29:45 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: holy joe

We’ve been getting pounded by this stuff in Seattle, because it is supposed to take place in Forks, Wa.

I dunno. If I was a bloodsucker, don’t think I’d go for a bunch of pale-faced anemic people with moss between their toes.

A true vampire is gonna go for you know somebody like Queen Latifah, somebody who’s got a little color and meat on her bones.

JMHO.


20 posted on 11/24/2008 10:31:38 AM PST by djf (The harsh reality of life is that reality is harsh.)
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To: holy joe

I heard on the radio this morning from one of our local reporters who went over the weekend to see it she said it sucked. The acting was bad and the dialogue was juvenile.


21 posted on 11/24/2008 10:32:44 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: holy joe

There is a significant amount of violence in this film. To say that there isn’t any violence is to lie or not have seen the film. I think the book was much better. I’d give the movie 3 of 5 stars. My lady adored it though.


22 posted on 11/24/2008 10:34:34 AM PST by Vindibudd
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To: holy joe

Both my teen daughters read the entire series and saw the movie. They liked it but were a bit disappointed after all the hype.


23 posted on 11/24/2008 10:47:13 AM PST by manic4organic (We Are S0 Screwed)
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To: icwhatudo

Well, I guess that means “up” is now “down.”

Perhaps, on the way home tonight, I should drive as fast as I can...in reverse.


24 posted on 11/24/2008 10:57:16 AM PST by RexBeach ("There is no such thing as a good tax." Winston Churchill)
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To: RexBeach
Some vampires are good? ... They drink human blood for a living.

The way my daughter described it, these vampires drink animal blood. They jokingly refer to themselves as vegetarians.

25 posted on 11/24/2008 11:09:51 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Question O-thority)
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To: domenad

“My wife is agitating to drag me to this thing, can I at least see some vampire war or something?”

Actually there is a small bit of violence! It comes towards the end, at the crux of the movie, in a battle between the good vampires and a very, very bad one (the good guys win of course! YAY!). There is a good bit of suspense all through the movie, and intrigue, I really think you will enjoy it on a guy level, while she will enjoy it on a gal level! (Lots of old fashioned “first love” romance too).

I was talked into reading the first book by my (obsessed) 14 year old, because she didn’t want me to ask her any questions during the movie. Well I read it and am hooked myself, am now reading the second one (which the production has already begun on). I really enjoyed the movie and enjoyed the book even more (more detail), but it was fun to see the characters come to life. I have to give the casting director an A+, they were almost all just exactly the way I had pictured them.

Tell your wife that I hope she enjoys it as much as we did! I think we will be going again soon.


26 posted on 11/24/2008 11:16:02 AM PST by VRWCer (Sarah Palin - the embodiment of the spirit and true grit upon which this great country was founded.)
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To: Jeff Head

I read the books and liked them, and I went to the movie. And I seem to have liked it. I think it was a flawed movie, but I was entertained, I laughed, and I enjoyed myself for 2 hours.

Sure, sometimes it was at the expense of the actors or the story, but if you are entertained, does it matter why?

Heck, I might even go see it again, although with ticket prices so high I probably won’t. We’ll probably end up owning it anyway.

It definitely wasn’t an action movie.


27 posted on 11/24/2008 11:34:31 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: DustyMoment
the dialogue was juvenile.

Yes, I hate it when juveniles are portrayed as talking like juveniles. Much better when the boys sound like 40-year-old playboys, and the girls like 20-something vamps looking to get laid.

:-)

28 posted on 11/24/2008 11:36:03 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: VRWCer

I’m on “Team Alice”, and I think I yelled “way to go, Alice” at the climax of that scene. Heck, when you are with the juveniles at the theatre, you’ve got to go with the flow.

At the beginning of the movie, I wanted to yell “Bambi”.


29 posted on 11/24/2008 11:37:17 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: PapaBear3625

Well, that’s pretty inventive.

But it still seems very, very creepy.


30 posted on 11/24/2008 11:42:09 AM PST by RexBeach ("There is no such thing as a good tax." Winston Churchill)
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To: holy joe

“I have four children, and my wife and I have decided to forbid our two teenage girls (age 14 and 16) from reading the “Twilight” books.

Why?

We both read about half of the fourth book, and found it to be spiritually twisted and grotesque. The author has taken liberty with two legitimate human longings (love and eternal life) and has twisted them into a bizarre parallel universe that is in direct opposition to biblical revelation.

In the books, Edward is portrayed as a “good” vampire, since he does not drink human blood, but instead is nourished by the blood of animals that he hunts and kills.

Yes, there is the ‘commendable’ sexual purity that the books are built upon, but is that enough of a virtue for me to turn a blind eye to the deeper, darker spiritual lessons that are presented in these books? The path to eternal life is given in these books: either by drinking animal blood (that’s what good vampires do), or by drinking human blood, (well, golly, that’s what ‘bad’ vampires do).

On top of all this, in the fourth book, Edward finally gets married to his girlfriend (yes, I’ve already forgotten her name, just in like in the Skynyrd song). On their wedding night, their marriage is consumated off-stage (another “virtuous” portrayal of “purity”?), but the following morning, the young woman wakes up with a mass of bruises all over her body. Supposedly, the vampire husband Edward is so stupendously strong that he can’t help but cause severe physical damage to his new blushing bride on the first night of their new ‘life’ together.

So, in between the macabre blood-drinking and the sado-masochism, I was disgusted by the books.

Don’t get taken in. These books are from the pit of hell.”

This is fishtank, and I wrote and approve of this FR post.


31 posted on 11/24/2008 11:49:42 AM PST by fishtank (The danger isn't that a particular class is unfit to govern: every class is unfit to govern. -Acton)
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To: Quix; greyfoxx39

Ping to my post #31 re: the “Twilight” books and movies.


32 posted on 11/24/2008 11:53:44 AM PST by fishtank (The danger isn't that a particular class is unfit to govern: every class is unfit to govern. -Acton)
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To: holy joe

A local movie reviewer called this movie “an extended Abacrombie & Fitch ad”

Its made for teenage girls.


33 posted on 11/24/2008 12:00:34 PM PST by kidd
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Heck, I might even go see it again, although with ticket prices so high I probably won’t. We’ll probably end up owning it anyway.

We have an historic 1920's theater nearby that is still in business and shows movies after they leave the multiplex. If it's a big hit, it will show up there, and I think I'll see it based on your comments.

34 posted on 11/26/2008 4:29:22 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: HappyinAZ

I’ve read all four books myself and then saw the movie. I thoroughly enjoyed the books and wish that they didn’t have to end.

I went to go see the movie, and although it didn’t really follow the book, I thought the movie was great. In my opinion, they could have found a slightly better Bella, but Edward was dead-on.

I think that anyone who’s seen the movie but hasn’t read the book(s) should read the book(s).

JMHO


35 posted on 11/29/2008 6:52:34 AM PST by Broken_Hearts978 (Take a screen shot or it never happened.)
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To: thefactor
how do you have a movie about vampires without violence? are they happy vampires?

Well, I'd say they are happier than the Anne Rice variety. They consider themselves to be "vegetarians" because they don't dine on humans. The Cullens are a different brand of vampire. (Although, animal lovers might be disturbed because they DO dine on animals, but then so do a majority of humans).

36 posted on 12/17/2008 10:50:16 AM PST by Mama_Bear
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To: Broken_Hearts978
I’ve read all four books myself and then saw the movie. I thoroughly enjoyed the books and wish that they didn’t have to end.

I read the first two in the saga and am starting the third. Also have seen the movie. I agree with you 100% when it comes to Bella. She was likable in the book, but on the screen she was entirely one dimensional, stiff and basically boring. There was no reason for Edward to fall in love with her, other than the fact that she smelled so delicious. LOL.

Robert Pattinson was perfect as Edward. Those who are criticizing the books need to remember that it is fiction, it is fantasy. It may not be for everyone, but I've enjoyed the books so far. One of the criticisms I heard was that the author didn't set a good example because Edward was a "stalker". Well, good grief, he's a VAMPIRE! What a surprise that stalking might actually be a part of a fictional vampire's pathological makeup! Who would have thought? ;-)

I am afraid, like you, I am not going to want this saga to end. Guess I will just need to read slower.

37 posted on 12/17/2008 11:23:16 AM PST by Mama_Bear
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To: DustyMoment

Either read the book or watch the movie. Don’t do both


38 posted on 12/17/2008 11:26:18 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: holy joe

http://carylmatrisciana.com/x2/content/view/81/1/

Excerpt:

Twilight takes occult darkness, introduced in Potter, to deeper, decadent fathoms: overt vampirism, acceptable blood-sucking (in this movie its only animal blood – later? Wait and see!) and sexual lust for the possessed soul (made appealing in its fictionalized form!). The books, akin to the Potter’s series, promote and familiarize their audience with magick, Wicca, supernatural powers and demon possession.

But what is beyond alarming is that Christians are seduced by satanic deception and have succumbed to Twilight’s fascination of dark wisdom, a power Scripture warns against - loving evil more than good (Psalm 52:3), and placing what the world admires before what God requires.


39 posted on 12/17/2008 11:28:36 AM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Your comments on this thread are hysterical. Thanks for making my day! LOL


40 posted on 12/17/2008 11:28:52 AM PST by Mama_Bear
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To: holy joe

And another excerpt—totally creepy!

Scaringly, Meyer’s fictional character Edward took on the “terrifying” form of “real” spirit when it leapt from the pages of her saga and communicated with her in a dream. She says she had an additional dream after Twilight was finished when her vampire character Edward came to visit and speak to her. The Edward who visited her in the night told her she’d got it all wrong because he DID drink human blood, and could not “live” on ONLY animal blood as she wrote in the story. She said, “We had this conversation and he was terrifying.”


41 posted on 12/17/2008 11:31:45 AM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: fishtank
Don’t get taken in. These books are from the pit of hell

You have GOT to be kidding! But, I don't think you are.

We are all entitled to our opinion, but my gosh.....I really do think that is a bit of an over-reation. It may not be your cup of tea, but "from the pit of hell"? I actually enjoyed the first two books and the movie. I am horrified to think what that says about me!

42 posted on 12/17/2008 11:35:56 AM PST by Mama_Bear
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To: Mama_Bear

THANK YOU!!! You are the first person (aside from myself) that actually acknowledges the fact that it is fiction/fantasy and that it’s not real.

Most people read to far into it, pulling apart the spaces inbetween the lines. People these days take things to seriously, too literally.

They just need to calm down and realize it’s not the end of the world.

Glad that you agree with me! At least someone does! :-)


43 posted on 12/20/2008 11:55:21 AM PST by Broken_Hearts978 (Take a screen shot or it never happened.)
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To: Broken_Hearts978
Just between you and me, some people are wound a bit too tight, I think. But that's just MHO. ;-)

Have you heard that there is a fifth book in the works? Supposedly, the first 300 pages are posted on Stephenie's web page, but I haven't been there, so I don't know if this is true or not. I am only halfway through the third book and already have come across spoilers so that I know what happens in the fourth book. I don't need to be reading about the fifth book at this point!

44 posted on 12/20/2008 12:22:14 PM PST by Mama_Bear
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To: Mama_Bear

The supposed “fifth book” is actually a flip on the first book twilight. It’s in Edwards perspective. But because one of her “trusted” colleages leaked the first 12 chapters on the internet, she (Stephanie) has postponed the production of the book indefinitely.

Hopefully (and I cross my fingers for this), she comes around and completes the book. I would love to read in Edwards perspective.


45 posted on 12/27/2008 5:58:41 AM PST by Broken_Hearts978 (Take a screen shot or it never happened.)
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To: Broken_Hearts978
You are exactly right. I went to her website and she does have the first 300 pages there. I read it and, as you said, it is the first book rewritten from Edward's perspective. I, too, hope she completes it, but I certainly do understand why she may not.

I just started the forth book last night. Unfortunatley, I have read too many reviews and know where the story goes. Still, I think I will enjoy it as I have the others.

46 posted on 12/27/2008 7:35:18 AM PST by Mama_Bear
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To: Mama_Bear

I enjoyed the fourth book. I feel that (and I hope I don’t ruin this at all), but, the ending feels a little too... “cliff-hanger-ish” if that makes sense. I feel that it could have ended better. But I believe you will enjoy the book.

I can’t wait to see how this book is translated into film. But, that’s in the future. Enjoy the book! ;-)


47 posted on 12/27/2008 8:21:14 AM PST by Broken_Hearts978 (Take a screen shot or it never happened.)
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To: Broken_Hearts978; Mama_Bear

If you read my posts above, you will see that the author had an encounter with “Edward.” What kind of “being” do you suppose this is? A demon, perhaps? Why would she feel “terrified” when she had this encounter with “Edward”?

Yes, some books are simply works of fiction. But others have some kind of spiritual force behind them. That seems to be the case here. In the Christian worldview, there are very real powers of good and evil. If someone doesn’t have a Christian worldview, then this probably doesn’t make sense.

Just my .02. :-)


48 posted on 12/27/2008 9:09:09 AM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: Abigail Adams

On the other hand, authors sometimes get very much into their stories and characters. I have a story I have worked on and when I speak of the characters I talk about them as if I know them. I cannot always tell what a character will do, because they might want to change things. People who don’t write this way, find this a very odd way of speaking. “What do you mean you don’t know what your character will do. You’re writing it.” This might very well translate into a dream state. I had such a thing happen and had to change a major part of what I was writing.


49 posted on 12/27/2008 9:19:59 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Abigail Adams

That’s my point exactly. Couldn’t agree with you more. Everyone has their opinion and view, but sometimes those opinions and views go a little awry and then you have the plain ol’ nutball.

Good and Evil, some don’t believe it exists. I believe it exists greatly.

I’m one of those people that believes in the fictional; that there are such things as ghosts and vampires. But then again, I have an overactive imagination. ;-P


50 posted on 12/27/2008 9:36:36 AM PST by Broken_Hearts978 (Take a screen shot or it never happened.)
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