Skip to comments.Just curious,, what are the better brands of ammunition?
Posted on 11/29/2008 5:53:57 PM PST by freemike
Just want to know if the cheaper brands of ammo are OK. Been hearing some mixed things about American ammo. Any feedback is helpful. 45 cal and 12 gauge and 7.62 are a few rounds I enjoy,, but I have some experience with others. I know more about handguns than I do rifles. Never hunted but am thinking about it for next year. Always wanted a good lever action hunting rifle. Any suggestions there as well?
Oh, this’ll get a few responses.
Wiley Coyote always buys Acme brand.
Try to “roll your own” - reload your own ammunition. Then you can’t blame anyone when you get a misfire.
The best is ALWAYS what you re-load on your own...provided you learn how, and pay attention to what you’re doing :)
On the lever action, for medium sized game, a Winchester 30/30 pre 1964.
The vast majority lever action rifles you’ll find are chambered for 30-30, .44 Mag or .22 LR/Mag. There are other calibers, of course, but mostly pistol and revolver.
Marlin 336 30/30 lever action
Federal, Remington, any good American brand
Is this really cheaper overall,, and does it require some kind of license??
The lacquered centerfire stuff from WOLF has a reputation for fouling autoloaders, but beyond that most major manufacturers make decent ammunition. There are “promotional” lines made by many companies, like Federal’s “American Eagle” and what’s usually called “Winchester White Box” that are inexpensive and many purchase it for practice. I would be carefull purchasing foriegn made military surplus stuff, but any of the major sellers are ok in my experience.
Remington Express High Brass.
Federal/CCI, Winchester, Sellier & Bellot.
+1 on the Marlin 336.
For hunting ammo, Federal gets my vote. Federal premium ammo, often with Nosler Partition bullets, works well in hunting big came.
Federal is also good in shotgun ammo
Fiocchi used to be a cheap(er) import brand I liked in 9mm FMJ practice ammo. They also make good shotgun ammo.
PMC makes good ball/practice ammo as well.
Black Hills makes excellent ammo in military calibers (5.56 and 7.62).
Sellier & Bellot .45&9mm. PMC .45, CCI lawman .45
Depends on what you are looking for. Black HIlls, Winchester, Federal is good. etc. Main thing is to get plenty now while you can
Cannot beat a Marlin.
Wolf, on the other hand, I will never buy again. The last straw was a Wolf .45 round which had a case split, jamming it in the gun.
Corbon has always done well for me, and they have had many ingenious developments like the Glaser safety slug.
Thanks. I will be looking into this.
Love my Marlin, good gun, good price @ Walmart. Thumbs up on Sellier & Bellot too in .45 in my CZ.
I’ve shot all Wolf in my WASR, no problems. That’s why it’s lacquered, I think.
Marlins are soo safe, I missed a coyote once because of the stupid safety button. Hammer was half-cocked and safety button was ‘on’. I jacked the damn lever till the gun was empty thinking the shells were duds...It was brand new and my previous gun was a Win.94 (no safety button) DOH!
Uh, you use whatever your gun likes. Feed it different brands while target shooting and you’ll figure it out. I do shy away from the dirty stuff though.
Ping to self: Ammo.
On the lever action, for medium sized game, a Winchester 30/30 pre 1964.
freemike wrote to 45semi: in post #10: "Is this really cheaper overall,, and does it require some kind of license??"
One of my favorite Internet sites is Real Guns where a lot of the technical stuff about "handloading" is discussed in detail. Old hands will find something of interest and the beginner will find a treasue trove of imformation on the subject.
I hope you enjoy the site as much as I do.
An Old Man
A local gunsmith, a man who actually makes his living repairing weapons, told me to avoid the ammo they sell at WalMart. He said a lot of his customers have had trouble with it.
Try to “buy American”, but in the end, get a good deal and buy in bulk.
Check out www.ammoman.com. For the .45, 12, and 7.62 (x52?). Stick to re loadable, non corrosive cases. The only Wolf brand ammo that should be considered is 7.62x39 and .22. The AKs were designed to run the steel cased stuff. Don’t worry too much about the lacquer coating on the cases unless you are firing full auto a lot (heat, melting, buildup). The Wolf .22 match is actually manufactured in Germany under license.
First the rifle. Try a Marlin. If you want something w/ pop get a guide gun in 45-70 or 450 Marlin. Deer size, go w/ the 336 in 30-30 or the new rifle in 308 Marlin, using the new soft point Hornady Ammo. Ammo? Hornady, Nosler are always good. As for handguns, Hornady, Winchester, Speer and a bunch of other name brands are good.
Take a look at the Browning BLR. It’s a lever action with a removable box magazine, so it can be chambered in all those good “pointy-nose” calibers like 308, 30-06, 243, etc.
I have one in .308 and it’s awesome.
“....avoid the ammo they sell at WalMart. He said a lot of his customers have had trouble with it.”
Curious. I just went to WalMart the other day at the recommendation of FReepers and bought Remington. Why would a box of Remington 7.62 X 39 be different from a box of Remington 7.62 X 39 from someplace else?
Ooo, that’s bad; thanks for the heads-up. Did it lodge far enough in to allow the next round to load? That’s when really bad things happen i.e. damaged barrel.
It isn't. It is made from the same raw materials, same processes, same specifications and same workers. That is also true of the other manufacturer's promotional brands.
Speer markets three different lines of ammo ("Blazer Brass", "Independence" and "Lawman" that differ only in the packaging artwork. Same for Federal and "American Eagle". Same with Winchester and "USA". Same with Remington and "UMC". Get the picture?
Buy a major American brand by price for best ammo and results.
“A local gunsmith, a man who actually makes his living repairing weapons, told me to avoid the ammo they sell at WalMart. He said a lot of his customers have had trouble with it.”
He actually makes his living repairing weapons and he didn’t tell you which brands to avoid, he only told you which non union store to not buy them at?
If you are thinking of cost, DRY FIRE. You can do it in the front room, the bedroom or on the back porch. You can do it when it’s 30 degrees and snowing hard, sunny and warm or when it’s raining cats and dogs. Practice in the dark more often than in the bright light. You can do it with a .22 derringer, a .50 caliber Barrett and every weapon in between.
Ninety five percent of shooting is position or stance, how you hold the weapon, breathing, concentration on the target (being able to block out the noises around you) and how you squeeze (not pull) the trigger. You don’t need a bullet coming out the barrel to tell you if that shot will hit what you are aiming at.
If you are practicing with a handgun, practice drawing from the holster for every shot. Bringing the weapon up to the “ready” position is 99% of the task. If you fumble your draw, you will lose the game, guaranteed! So practice the most important part the most often.
That is the most hilarious thing I have ever heard. Sounds exactly like a big media response ... slightly slanted (understatement)and without any logicality to the statement, Obvious a WalMart hater. sheeeeesh .... and people like that want us to think they are credible????
“Obvious a WalMart hater.”
Precisely my thought upon reading that response as well.
Remington, Winchester, Federal? Avoid those brands? And Wal-Mart has the best distruibution system in the country, so I don't think it's been sittin' around for long. Sounds like anti-Wal-Mart BS.
It is reliable (no failures yet), but not quite as accurate as I would like (shooting 55 grain out of a 1/9 twist the groups are about twice as large as what I can achieve with my stash of Lake City). So far I've tried three batches (one was actually branded "Monarch" from a local Academy, but it is manufactured by Privi Partisan) with consistent results.
I would use something else for competition, but it is decent ammo for training or plinking.
The Monarch was what I saw at the Academy store. It’s not really cheap, but the FMJ and the soft point were the same price, so I thought I might try some of the soft point. About a month ago, Gander Mt. had Lake City XM193 for $7.50 box/20. Should have bought more!
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