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Just curious,, what are the better brands of ammunition?
Nov 29,08 | me

Posted on 11/29/2008 5:53:57 PM PST by freemike

Just want to know if the cheaper brands of ammo are OK. Been hearing some mixed things about American ammo. Any feedback is helpful. 45 cal and 12 gauge and 7.62 are a few rounds I enjoy,, but I have some experience with others. I know more about handguns than I do rifles. Never hunted but am thinking about it for next year. Always wanted a good lever action hunting rifle. Any suggestions there as well?


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1 posted on 11/29/2008 5:53:57 PM PST by freemike
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To: freemike

Oh, this’ll get a few responses.


2 posted on 11/29/2008 5:55:09 PM PST by Steely Tom (RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
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To: Steely Tom

Wiley Coyote always buys Acme brand.


3 posted on 11/29/2008 5:55:54 PM PST by A knight without armor
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To: freemike

Try to “roll your own” - reload your own ammunition. Then you can’t blame anyone when you get a misfire.


4 posted on 11/29/2008 5:58:24 PM PST by Ken522
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To: freemike

Federal, Remington....Winchester


5 posted on 11/29/2008 5:59:40 PM PST by AirForceMom (God Bless the USA)
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To: Ken522

The best is ALWAYS what you re-load on your own...provided you learn how, and pay attention to what you’re doing :)


6 posted on 11/29/2008 6:00:50 PM PST by 45semi (I find stinky B.O. really really offensive...)
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To: freemike

On the lever action, for medium sized game, a Winchester 30/30 pre 1964.


7 posted on 11/29/2008 6:01:30 PM PST by AirForceMom (God Bless the USA)
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To: freemike

The vast majority lever action rifles you’ll find are chambered for 30-30, .44 Mag or .22 LR/Mag. There are other calibers, of course, but mostly pistol and revolver.


8 posted on 11/29/2008 6:01:42 PM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: freemike

Marlin 336 30/30 lever action
Federal, Remington, any good American brand


9 posted on 11/29/2008 6:02:36 PM PST by tumblindice (Cough it up Barry)
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To: 45semi

Is this really cheaper overall,, and does it require some kind of license??


10 posted on 11/29/2008 6:02:52 PM PST by freemike
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To: freemike

The lacquered centerfire stuff from WOLF has a reputation for fouling autoloaders, but beyond that most major manufacturers make decent ammunition. There are “promotional” lines made by many companies, like Federal’s “American Eagle” and what’s usually called “Winchester White Box” that are inexpensive and many purchase it for practice. I would be carefull purchasing foriegn made military surplus stuff, but any of the major sellers are ok in my experience.


11 posted on 11/29/2008 6:03:18 PM PST by VR-21
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To: freemike

Remington Express High Brass.


12 posted on 11/29/2008 6:03:44 PM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: freemike
Do it yourself. Its the best way.
13 posted on 11/29/2008 6:08:22 PM PST by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: freemike

Federal/CCI, Winchester, Sellier & Bellot.


14 posted on 11/29/2008 6:09:15 PM PST by omega4179 (Pardon Ramos and Compean !!??? HELLO???)
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To: tumblindice

+1 on the Marlin 336.


15 posted on 11/29/2008 6:09:51 PM PST by omega4179 (Pardon Ramos and Compean !!??? HELLO???)
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To: freemike
Yes, especially if you are going to practice shooting enough to become proficient.
And by that, I personally believe that 50 rounds a week (average) shot at your local range, or on your private land, or wherever you can go to shoot.
That is the amount you should shoot to stay accurate, proficient in firearm safety, and comfortable with basic shooting skills.
No license required, an initial output for re-loading equipment, and you police up your used brass, buy the primers, powder, and lead.

16 posted on 11/29/2008 6:14:24 PM PST by 45semi (I find stinky B.O. really really offensive...)
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To: freemike

For hunting ammo, Federal gets my vote. Federal premium ammo, often with Nosler Partition bullets, works well in hunting big came.

Federal is also good in shotgun ammo

Fiocchi used to be a cheap(er) import brand I liked in 9mm FMJ practice ammo. They also make good shotgun ammo.

PMC makes good ball/practice ammo as well.

Black Hills makes excellent ammo in military calibers (5.56 and 7.62).


17 posted on 11/29/2008 6:14:38 PM PST by NVDave
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To: omega4179

Sellier & Bellot .45&9mm. PMC .45, CCI lawman .45


18 posted on 11/29/2008 6:16:01 PM PST by Hang'emAll
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To: freemike

Depends on what you are looking for. Black HIlls, Winchester, Federal is good. etc. Main thing is to get plenty now while you can


19 posted on 11/29/2008 6:19:20 PM PST by mel
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To: freemike

Cannot beat a Marlin.


20 posted on 11/29/2008 6:21:22 PM PST by waterhill (An armed man has the means for independence)
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To: omega4179
I've shot thousands of rounds of Sellier & Bellot, never a problem.

Wolf, on the other hand, I will never buy again. The last straw was a Wolf .45 round which had a case split, jamming it in the gun.

21 posted on 11/29/2008 6:23:39 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Question O-thority)
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To: AirForceMom
Agreed, but add Dakota/Corbon.

Corbon has always done well for me, and they have had many ingenious developments like the Glaser safety slug.

http://www.dakotaammo.net/products/glaser/glaser.htm

22 posted on 11/29/2008 6:24:27 PM PST by Red6
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To: 45semi

Thanks. I will be looking into this.


23 posted on 11/29/2008 6:25:18 PM PST by freemike (Alas, how many have been persecuted for the wrong of having been right? --Jean-Baptiste Say)
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To: omega4179

Love my Marlin, good gun, good price @ Walmart. Thumbs up on Sellier & Bellot too in .45 in my CZ.
I’ve shot all Wolf in my WASR, no problems. That’s why it’s lacquered, I think.


24 posted on 11/29/2008 6:30:18 PM PST by tumblindice (Cough it up Barry)
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To: waterhill

Marlins are soo safe, I missed a coyote once because of the stupid safety button. Hammer was half-cocked and safety button was ‘on’. I jacked the damn lever till the gun was empty thinking the shells were duds...It was brand new and my previous gun was a Win.94 (no safety button) DOH!


25 posted on 11/29/2008 6:30:52 PM PST by waterhill (An armed man has the means for independence)
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To: freemike

Uh, you use whatever your gun likes. Feed it different brands while target shooting and you’ll figure it out. I do shy away from the dirty stuff though.


26 posted on 11/29/2008 6:33:37 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: freemike

Ping to self: Ammo.


27 posted on 11/29/2008 6:42:16 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: freemike
When I was reloading my machine paid for itself the first time I used it. I highly recommend DILLON for a novice like I was. I sold my "Square Deal B" after my back started acting up more. Now I just buy in bulk, but if I didn't have the supplies I have now, I'd consider getting back into the hobby. In fact, you could make a great living as long as you buy in bulk ahead of advancing legislation. This could be a recession proof side line. Of course there is always a downside. Here it would probably mean a listing on the top ten list of most wanted ... dead or alive.
28 posted on 11/29/2008 6:42:36 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: AirForceMom

On the lever action, for medium sized game, a Winchester 30/30 pre 1964.


True, until Hornady came our with their LeveRevelution Flex Tip, which adds lots of range to the round.


29 posted on 11/29/2008 7:03:42 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Politicians, like diapers, should be changed often. And for the same reason.)
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To: freemike; 45semi; Ken522
45semi wrote to Ken522 in post # 6: "The best is ALWAYS what you re-load on your own...provided you learn how, and pay attention to what you’re doing :)"

Then;

freemike wrote to 45semi: in post #10: "Is this really cheaper overall,, and does it require some kind of license??"

One of my favorite Internet sites is Real Guns where a lot of the technical stuff about "handloading" is discussed in detail. Old hands will find something of interest and the beginner will find a treasue trove of imformation on the subject.

One of the projects on this site got me started in handloading. See Reloading the .257 Weatherby ... in Excruciating Detail Part 1 and Part 2

I hope you enjoy the site as much as I do.

Semper Fi
An Old Man

30 posted on 11/29/2008 7:18:54 PM PST by An Old Man (Lead, Follow, or get the hell out of the way)
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To: Delta 21

ping reloads


31 posted on 11/29/2008 7:29:58 PM PST by TNoldman (Conservative Values FOREVER!)
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To: freemike
Winchester white box at Wallyworld is fairly cheap, and my Glock .40 has never complained about it.
I like to get the Lake City Federal ammo in 5.56 when I can get it at a decent price. I've heard that Serbian Privi Partisan ammo is pretty good and can usually be found at a decent price, but haven't tried any yet. Does anyone know from personal experience?
32 posted on 11/29/2008 7:42:59 PM PST by smokingfrog (If it's to be a bloodbath, let it be now. Appeasement is not the answer. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


33 posted on 11/29/2008 7:43:59 PM PST by kalee (Happy Birthday to ME!!!)
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To: freemike

A local gunsmith, a man who actually makes his living repairing weapons, told me to avoid the ammo they sell at WalMart. He said a lot of his customers have had trouble with it.


34 posted on 11/29/2008 7:47:07 PM PST by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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To: freemike

Try to “buy American”, but in the end, get a good deal and buy in bulk.


35 posted on 11/29/2008 7:47:19 PM PST by airborne
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To: freemike

Check out www.ammoman.com. For the .45, 12, and 7.62 (x52?). Stick to re loadable, non corrosive cases. The only Wolf brand ammo that should be considered is 7.62x39 and .22. The AKs were designed to run the steel cased stuff. Don’t worry too much about the lacquer coating on the cases unless you are firing full auto a lot (heat, melting, buildup). The Wolf .22 match is actually manufactured in Germany under license.

Good luck!
Stay alert


36 posted on 11/29/2008 8:00:09 PM PST by petro45acp (Hunkered down in occupied Virginia!)
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To: freemike
I've had some good deals at the following places recently:

NATCHEZSS

Sportsman's Guide

ABLE AMMO

Cheaper Than Dirt

37 posted on 11/29/2008 8:22:14 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: freemike

First the rifle. Try a Marlin. If you want something w/ pop get a guide gun in 45-70 or 450 Marlin. Deer size, go w/ the 336 in 30-30 or the new rifle in 308 Marlin, using the new soft point Hornady Ammo. Ammo? Hornady, Nosler are always good. As for handguns, Hornady, Winchester, Speer and a bunch of other name brands are good.


38 posted on 11/29/2008 8:35:21 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr

Take a look at the Browning BLR. It’s a lever action with a removable box magazine, so it can be chambered in all those good “pointy-nose” calibers like 308, 30-06, 243, etc.

I have one in .308 and it’s awesome.


39 posted on 11/29/2008 9:07:01 PM PST by Bryanw92
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To: Malesherbes

“....avoid the ammo they sell at WalMart. He said a lot of his customers have had trouble with it.”

Curious. I just went to WalMart the other day at the recommendation of FReepers and bought Remington. Why would a box of Remington 7.62 X 39 be different from a box of Remington 7.62 X 39 from someplace else?


40 posted on 11/29/2008 10:05:29 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Ooo, that’s bad; thanks for the heads-up. Did it lodge far enough in to allow the next round to load? That’s when really bad things happen i.e. damaged barrel.


41 posted on 11/29/2008 11:05:03 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: rockinqsranch
"Why would a box of Remington 7.62 X 39 be different from a box of Remington 7.62 X 39 from someplace else?"

It isn't. It is made from the same raw materials, same processes, same specifications and same workers. That is also true of the other manufacturer's promotional brands.

Speer markets three different lines of ammo ("Blazer Brass", "Independence" and "Lawman" that differ only in the packaging artwork. Same for Federal and "American Eagle". Same with Winchester and "USA". Same with Remington and "UMC". Get the picture?

Buy a major American brand by price for best ammo and results.

42 posted on 11/29/2008 11:09:23 PM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Malesherbes

“A local gunsmith, a man who actually makes his living repairing weapons, told me to avoid the ammo they sell at WalMart. He said a lot of his customers have had trouble with it.”


He actually makes his living repairing weapons and he didn’t tell you which brands to avoid, he only told you which non union store to not buy them at?


43 posted on 11/29/2008 11:10:02 PM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: freemike

If you are thinking of cost, DRY FIRE. You can do it in the front room, the bedroom or on the back porch. You can do it when it’s 30 degrees and snowing hard, sunny and warm or when it’s raining cats and dogs. Practice in the dark more often than in the bright light. You can do it with a .22 derringer, a .50 caliber Barrett and every weapon in between.

Ninety five percent of shooting is position or stance, how you hold the weapon, breathing, concentration on the target (being able to block out the noises around you) and how you squeeze (not pull) the trigger. You don’t need a bullet coming out the barrel to tell you if that shot will hit what you are aiming at.

If you are practicing with a handgun, practice drawing from the holster for every shot. Bringing the weapon up to the “ready” position is 99% of the task. If you fumble your draw, you will lose the game, guaranteed! So practice the most important part the most often.


44 posted on 11/30/2008 7:15:20 AM PST by B4Ranch ( Veterans: "There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, ...")
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To: rockinqsranch

That is the most hilarious thing I have ever heard. Sounds exactly like a big media response ... slightly slanted (understatement)and without any logicality to the statement, Obvious a WalMart hater. sheeeeesh .... and people like that want us to think they are credible????


45 posted on 11/30/2008 7:53:03 AM PST by HiramQuick (work harder ... welfare recipients depend on you!)
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To: HiramQuick

“Obvious a WalMart hater.”

Precisely my thought upon reading that response as well.


46 posted on 11/30/2008 8:35:57 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: Malesherbes
...the ammo they sell at WalMart.

Remington, Winchester, Federal? Avoid those brands? And Wal-Mart has the best distruibution system in the country, so I don't think it's been sittin' around for long. Sounds like anti-Wal-Mart BS.

47 posted on 11/30/2008 9:05:06 AM PST by gundog (When the SHTF, it will not be evenly distributed.)
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To: smokingfrog
I've heard that Serbian Privi Partisan ammo is pretty good and can usually be found at a decent price, but haven't tried any yet. Does anyone know from personal experience?

It is reliable (no failures yet), but not quite as accurate as I would like (shooting 55 grain out of a 1/9 twist the groups are about twice as large as what I can achieve with my stash of Lake City). So far I've tried three batches (one was actually branded "Monarch" from a local Academy, but it is manufactured by Privi Partisan) with consistent results.

I would use something else for competition, but it is decent ammo for training or plinking.

48 posted on 12/01/2008 10:18:08 AM PST by Technogeeb (The only good Russian is a dead Russian. Rest in Peace, Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Technogeeb

The Monarch was what I saw at the Academy store. It’s not really cheap, but the FMJ and the soft point were the same price, so I thought I might try some of the soft point. About a month ago, Gander Mt. had Lake City XM193 for $7.50 box/20. Should have bought more!


49 posted on 12/01/2008 5:21:32 PM PST by smokingfrog (If it's to be a bloodbath, let it be now. Appeasement is not the answer. - Ronald Reagan)
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