Posted on 12/01/2008 11:13:21 AM PST by fella
what the north east will never succeed and join Quebec
shucks
“...espouse whatever message they like.”
I saw some Civil War movie off and on last week - “Riding with the Devil” or something, just saw bits and pieces. I think it was about Cantrell’s (sp?) Raiders which I think was after the war had ended??
ANYWAY - in one scene the younger guys with the Raiders are eating dinner with an older Southern Gentleman that is leaving the fight and moving to Texas. He tells the young raiders something like:
“The Northerners built a school up in Lawerenceville. They teach the children what to think, and to think like them. We’ve lost because we don’t try to tell others how to think. They can do whatever they want.”
One young raider ready to lash out scowls “You tryin’ to say what we’re fightin’ for ain’t worth it?”
“No - we’ve already lost what we are fighting for.”
It went something like that anyway. A defeatist attitude I guess from the older gentleman, but accurate for the Civil War era. I hope it is not accurate for our times, but I fear it is.
That and the Rebel flag (as I've read and heard Southerners call it) was a flag that was used in battle and from what brief research I've done, never flew over any Confederate government offices.
“never flew over any Confederate government offices.”
Hey, I didn’t know that! Thanks.
Amazing how many people get the battle flag and stars and bars confused.
My flag is still up. He hasn’t been inaugurated yet.
I plan on flying the Stars and Bars on January 20th.
You should mind ypur own damned business! It’s his flag flying on his property. You don’t get to tell him to take it down.
Of course, none other than the vice president of the Confederacy would disagree with you quite vehemently. Are you familiar with Stephens' Cornerstone Speech? Here's a link for your reading pleasure.
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?documentprint=76
A couple of nice quotes:
"The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution—African slavery as it exists amongst us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. ", and
"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. "
Yea, nothing to do with racism.
Well, they only had four years, and they were kinda busy the whole time.
Given time, I'm sure they would have gotten around to a little Indian killing.
“I plan on flying the Stars and Bars on January 20th.”
Correction - it will be the Battle Flag.
I need to put out the Confederate First National in my front yard on Jan 20. I wonder if anyone will get it?
“The Confederate flag should come down. That flag and what it stood for resulted in 618,000 soldier deaths and thousands more injured by hideous wounds and losses of limbs.”
Exactly what, in your opinion, did the Confederate flag ‘stand for?’
You have a good point, even if you used a fictional movie to make it. I’d just like to say that I find the following hilarious...
“The Northerners built a school up in Lawerenceville....”
Yes, brothers, it is true, Southerners had no concept of learnin’ until we were invaded and Yankees forcibly built schools. That is the implication, of course, straight from hollywood to your brain. All of the North was urban, and sophisticated, while the entire South was rural, and backwards. Just like today, as a matter of fact.
The rest of the quote I pretty much agree with, which leads me to believe the screenwriter stole and modified a quote from somewhere.
“BTW, to those who cry “racism”, the Dixie flag has nothing to do with racism. It is about the South’s wishes to be autonomous.”
As a point of historical fact, the word ‘racism’ didn’t even exist when the Confederacy did...not until almost 70 years later.
I took down Old Glory and put up a Gadsden Flag the day our socialist frat boy Yankee started talking about amnesty and a “comprehensive” immigration plan.
I know I used to get them confused all the time. One of those many things my publick skool teacherz didn't tell me. :)
You are correct, sir. What people think of as “the Confederate flag” today actually never existed in the CSA—it’s a post-war combination of the coloration of the Army of Northern Virginia battle flag, with the configuration of the Confederate Navy’s second naval jack.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederacy
}:-)4
“Morons perpetuating a stereotype that accomplishes nothing”
A false stereotype that has been perpetuated by liberals. The whole meaning behind the various Southern flags was State rights, something that has all but been abolished with the Northern liberals.
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