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FR Gun Club: Sighting In A New Rifle
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Posted on 12/08/2008 9:26:18 PM PST by Neil E. Wright

You can't be to careful when sighting in your expensive new deer rifle .........

1. Shiny new, high-powered deer rifle..............$ 1,200.00

2. Quality, high-powered scope........................$ 550.00

3. Bore sighting device.....................................$ 140.00

4. Hospital Visit......................$ 4,893.00

5. Forgetting to remove the bore sighting device prior to actually shooting? Disastrous

"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne


TOPICS: Education; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: banglist; boresighting; disaster; stupidtrick
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To: Smokin' Joe
BTW in my experience if it does not dial in on the second iteration there is probably something wrong with the scope mounting or the scope itself. If it is a used gun stop shooting and take it to a gunsmith for inspection. I had Remington 660 a few years ago that had a bad spot in the barrel right near the muzzle. Weird little defect in the metal that caused the bullets to fly oddly. Gunsmith instructor at the Susanville Gunsmith School said he had never seen anything like it. New barrel and it shoots great. Deer slayer.
41 posted on 12/09/2008 5:27:42 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: NVDave

Great advice for a bolt rifle. However, how do you propose accomplishing that feat on a BLR, Models 94, 36, 71 or Rem semi-auto? There are others that I did not mention for time’s sake.

I’m a gunsmith and use the exact laser boresighter pictured. The failure of that shooter to follow proper gun safety procedure was the cause of that flowering barrel. Calling the inanimate object a “wretched thing” is kinda like blaming the spoon for Rosie O’Donuts yard wide backside.

I believe the shooter in that case was okay and think that someone hyped up the story with the addition of the emergency patient on the litter.


42 posted on 12/09/2008 5:28:36 AM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I’ll keep that in mind, thanks. I have a .308 I picked up used and haven’t taken out to the range yet.


43 posted on 12/09/2008 5:44:39 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Squantos
never used or even seen one of these gizmos, but it begs the question, are they 'hollow', and if not why not...

would seem to alleviate *some* of the backpressure if an ijudt forgets to remove it...still WOW...

44 posted on 12/09/2008 5:47:56 AM PST by Gilbo_3 ("JesusChrist 08"...Trust in the Lord......=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: ExpatGator

Well, speaking for myself, I don’t put scopes on lever guns, so that hasn’t been a problem, and all other rifles which are not bolt guns (Contender, AR-15, falling block) all seem to allow me access in one way or another. I can hit most anything I want to out to 200 yards with the iron sights on a BLR and once I owned a BLR, I never brought the Win94 out of the cabinet again.

The only rifle where it might one day be an issue for me is a M1A.

I think such widgets are just a distraction. It is so easy to sight in a scope either by direct bore sighting, or by starting on paper at 25 yards, that I’m really at a loss why they sell so well. I’d rather put that $140 into a new trigger group or into better glassware... or a chrony... or (insert any one of a zillion other shooting expenditures)


45 posted on 12/09/2008 5:51:46 AM PST by NVDave
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To: Shooter 2.5

I reckoned that would be pretty obvious...


46 posted on 12/09/2008 5:53:15 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave

Lots of folks put glass on levers because their eyes are weaker than they were when they were young.

There’s an easy explanation for why use a laser boresighter: I can boresight a rifle in my shop in less that 5 minutes. Not one round of ammo expended. It’s a no-brainer for me.

I agree on the BLR. It’s ten times the firearm than a 94.


47 posted on 12/09/2008 5:59:12 AM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: ExpatGator

For you, it is a money-making tool. You’re charging for your time and the more high-dollar work you can get done in a set period of time, the better. So for you, I understand the use of it.

For the average joe... I just don’t see how it is the best use of money or even a good use of money. Most shooters would benefit a lot more from putting the money into ammo and shooting more.


48 posted on 12/09/2008 6:04:05 AM PST by NVDave
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To: sig226
I'm generally always interested in talking about guns.....

fwiw-

49 posted on 12/09/2008 6:04:38 AM PST by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: NVDave
Agreed.......

That's the way I was taught to do it.

50 posted on 12/09/2008 6:08:06 AM PST by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: NVDave

I have wondered also about the attraction. I have concluded two things. People think they are saving ammo and many have had a bad experience where they got the scope mounted so poorly that it wouldn’t hit paper at 25 yards. Just MHO.


51 posted on 12/09/2008 6:13:58 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: NVDave

Thanks. It’s such a simple and accurate technique that I cannot believe people would spend good money on a laser gizmo when they would be better off spending it on ammunition.


52 posted on 12/09/2008 6:17:06 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: NVDave; The KG9 Kid
Did the fuse detonate as a result of the acceleration shock, ie, was the round on its way out of the tube when it went off?

Was this a M107 SPG?

The detonated about 5 or so feet from the muzzle due to a problem with the fuse, although I do not know exactly what it was. Peeled it back just like what was shown here. We thought the crew were all dead, but the Lord was with them that night. I have found other instances of the same thing happening with similar circumstances. Yes, this as a M107, although we changed out tubes frequently going from 8 in (M110) to 175 mm (M107) and back.

53 posted on 12/09/2008 6:20:45 AM PST by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: NVDave

Agreed. And I also agree that the average Joe can boresight their bolt gun without the gadget. However, American guys are gadget guys and American gun guys are the most gadgetty of all. Ain’t America great?!??!??!


54 posted on 12/09/2008 6:21:59 AM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: NVDave

Same procedure I use, except I usually go ahead and start with the target at 100. 95% of the time I’ll be on paper with the first shot. Helps to have a really good front rest and rear bag.


55 posted on 12/09/2008 6:24:55 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Shoot once, adjust the scope to put the crosshairs on the hole. Lather, rinse, repeat. You should be pretty much on within three shots.”

Yep. Never fails.


56 posted on 12/09/2008 6:25:55 AM PST by Into the Vortex
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To: Neil E. Wright
A lot of folks don't know that Colt ships AR-15's with a carboard device in the barrel.

Why they do this, I don't know. But always, always, ALWAYS make sure the bore is clear before you fire it for the first time.

L

57 posted on 12/09/2008 6:28:36 AM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: sig226

Most definitely: please keep me on your Ping list. I never get tired of reading about and sharing knowledge and experience with fellow firearms enthusiasts and 2nd Amendment supporters. I think we’re going to need each other a whole lot during the next 4 years...


58 posted on 12/09/2008 6:29:24 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Liberty has few friends, many enemies, and no adequate substitute.)
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To: 300winmag; Squantos; Ramius

that’s why I use an Aimshot

http://www.aimshot.com/boresight.php

goes in the chamber...


59 posted on 12/09/2008 6:51:11 AM PST by g'nad
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To: Neil E. Wright

Answering the riddle - When is a Gun like a Banana?


60 posted on 12/09/2008 6:52:35 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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