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Obama's Assault on the Internet
Sultan Knish ^ | Dec 9, 2008 | Sharrukin

Posted on 12/09/2008 7:49:30 PM PST by Sharrukin

License Plates for the Internet - The Blueprints for Obama's Assault on the Internet

The report's recommendations emphasize taking away cybersecurity from DHS in order to create a special department to oversee cybersecurity. It recommends ending the division between civilian and national security systems. And calls for establishing "international norms" when it comes to the internet.

And it focuses a good deal on identity verification, not just for Federal employees, but for ordinary Americans as well.

The report urges a move away from passwords, and toward physical identity verification, via a device that would verify an individual's identity. And calls for "government issued credentials" to be used by consumers.


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Looks like Obama isn't letting any time go to waste. If this goes through we may see the same sort of controls as seen in China or Sweden.
1 posted on 12/09/2008 7:49:31 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Sharrukin

This dude is crazy. Actually, the 60+ million that voted for him is absolutely insane.


2 posted on 12/09/2008 7:51:29 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Sharrukin

Yes, he revealed his fascist mentality clearly during the campaign.


3 posted on 12/09/2008 7:51:46 PM PST by ducdriver (99% of liberals give the other 1% a bad name.)
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To: Sharrukin

I still expect him to hand control of the internet to the international community.

And with all the laws against “defaming Islam” sites like FreeRepublic will be shut down.


4 posted on 12/09/2008 7:53:13 PM PST by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: Sharrukin

ANYONE who voted for Obama is total moron. Sick people.


5 posted on 12/09/2008 7:53:22 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (For more information on America's "new direction" read The Road to Serfdom. by Friedrich A. Hayek.)
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To: Sharrukin

Go ahead Obama. Do it. I’m willing to bet many angry people will make a concerted effort to fund hackers and overseas virus authors to simply destroy the internet system altogether.

Personally, I’d be happier if we retracted to the slide rule and logarithm table era. It would be to my advantage.


6 posted on 12/09/2008 7:54:25 PM PST by prismsinc (AIP works for ME!!!!)
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To: Tzimisce

That is what the article is suggesting. The standards to be used will be ‘international’ and that allows anyone to dictate to the US through a tribunal what is allowed on the internet.


7 posted on 12/09/2008 7:55:09 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Sharrukin

When I use to work at a military base, we had to use something called a CAC Card. You had to use it combined with a PIN number. What a pain.


8 posted on 12/09/2008 7:57:41 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: ducdriver
You got that right. With his vision of the internet, you make a few disparaging remarks on a lib site and suddenly someone is knocking on your door.
9 posted on 12/09/2008 7:58:01 PM PST by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: Sharrukin
Big Brother has arrived. I hope that all of the morons that voted for him are happy with their choice.
10 posted on 12/09/2008 7:59:54 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Sharrukin
That is what the article is suggesting. The standards to be used will be ‘international’ and that allows anyone to dictate to the US through a tribunal what is allowed on the internet.

This sis surprising how? The Left wants the USA to report to Brussels and the new fuhrer's handlers are the leaders of that movement.

As Padme said (I hate to quote a movie but it is accurate): "This how liberty dies -- to thunderous applause."

11 posted on 12/09/2008 8:00:07 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Der neuen Fuhrer: AKA the Murdering Messiah: Keep your powder dry, folks)
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To: Sharrukin

ping


12 posted on 12/09/2008 8:02:38 PM PST by unkus
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To: Sharrukin; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

Some of the change we damned well better believe in!


13 posted on 12/09/2008 8:02:41 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxiG56M-eU)
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To: Sharrukin

Centralizing Internet security at the federal level would render the Internet useless long before the Odumbites got around to indicting people for using it.


14 posted on 12/09/2008 8:02:45 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: freedumb2003

“This how liberty dies — to thunderous applause.”

I like that!

That’s how it died in Germany, and in pre-Soviet Russia. The strange part is that the liberals who made that movie will be in the crowd applauding wildly.


15 posted on 12/09/2008 8:04:32 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: randomhero97
This dude is crazy. Actually, the 60+ million that voted for him is absolutely insane. M

I have cooled relationships with several otherwise intelligent friends because they voted for this traitor.

16 posted on 12/09/2008 8:06:11 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Sharrukin

After the following was posted about Google tracking....

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashgof.htm

People starting freaking out about Obama’s talk of appointing Google’s Schmidt to a new Tech position on his staff.(and rightly so)

Now we have this.....

http://www.inquisitr.com/7714/eric-schmidt-says-hes-not-interested-in-cto-position/

Guess Obama’s obsession with keeping his blackberry to keep in touch with the “common” people now makes perfect sense.


17 posted on 12/09/2008 8:10:07 PM PST by dianed
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

To think that most of us have lived longer without the internet, the thought of living without it is hard to imagine. Sites like this will be gone, not to mention all the site that sell guns and ammo. How in the hell did it come to this, and to think millions upon millions of people voted for this idiot....how long before the left realizes what they have done to themselves...and to the rest of us that screamed from the mountain tops to vote for mccain?


18 posted on 12/09/2008 8:11:41 PM PST by Edizzl79 (you want my guns..come and get em...I dare ya....)
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To: CORedneck

CAC cards are still in use - in fact, they’re damn near universal.


19 posted on 12/09/2008 8:15:32 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: Edizzl79
Sites like this will be gone, not to mention all the site that sell guns and ammo

We can stock up on guns and ammo (and anyone who isn't stocking up is nuts) - but how do we stock up on our Free Speech rights?

How do we stock up on our rights to be secure in our property? Not stupid phone calls but physical presence of the Gummit accusing you of Hate Crimes Against The State.

The fuhrer's handlers have big plans -- total control and abrogation of the BOR and USC.

20 posted on 12/09/2008 8:18:36 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Der neuen Fuhrer: AKA the Murdering Messiah: Keep your powder dry, folks)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
I have cooled relationships with several otherwise intelligent friends because they voted for this traitor.

I wish there had been someone on the top of the Republican ticket that had been worth voting for. I voted for McCain/Palin ticket because of Gov. Palin, but McCain was a lousy candidate. He completely failed to articulate how he was better than Obama; his efforts to appear 'gentlemanly' undermined any possibility of focusing any real scrutiny on his opponent. When people ask 'was McCain really any better', it's discouraging not being able to answer with a strong affirmative.

21 posted on 12/09/2008 8:19:01 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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If this were to happen many Americans would discontinue their internet service. Great news for the economy.


22 posted on 12/09/2008 8:19:23 PM PST by Sammy67
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To: Edizzl79
...and to the rest of us that screamed from the mountain tops to vote for mccain?

When McCain announces publicly that Obama is an honorable man, what reason could any of us offer for people not to vote for Obama? Among other things, McCain's statement means that at least one of the following statements must be true:

  1. Obama is honorable (and those claiming otherwise are just noise).
  2. McCain and Obama are both dishonorable (even if Obama is dishonorable, that's no reason not to favor him over McCain).
  3. Obama is dishonorable, and McCain is dangerously clueless. Possible judgment call as to whether Obama's dishonor is worse than McCain's cluelessness. I'm pretty sure most of us here would agree that it is, but that's hardly an argument for someone who would lean Democrat not to vote for Obama.
I guess the GOP is destined to live up to its moniker of "The Stupid Party".
23 posted on 12/09/2008 8:26:06 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: All

Wait till he tries to go after people’s “adult” website visits and tries to track them. I dont care for that sort of thing. But he going to tick off a majority of males in this country by having to personally identify theirselves before surfing their favorite websites. IMHO


24 posted on 12/09/2008 8:29:46 PM PST by dreadnought321
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To: supercat

It was almost as if McCain threw the election. Keep in mind that cross-over voters in New Hampshire, Democrats, some from Vermont, gave him the first leg up. The Democrats selected our candidate. Then consider all the voter fraud with ACORN and the other Democrat associated groups who salted the voter rolls and it easy to see that the election was stolen.


25 posted on 12/09/2008 8:32:36 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: dreadnought321

I suspect that he will choose not to go after those types of sites in any real way. That isn’t the purpose of the controls. They will target some extreme sorts of sex sites for show purposes, but political hate speech will be in the crosshairs. That is what is going on elsewhere.

Perverts need not panic!


26 posted on 12/09/2008 8:33:08 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Sharrukin

what exactly is political “hate speech”? when you disagree with Obaba?. But then I repeat myself


27 posted on 12/09/2008 8:41:31 PM PST by dreadnought321
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To: dreadnought321

Political or social ‘Hate speech’ is whatever they decide it is. That sort of nonsense is going on in the Universities and colleges right now and it is up to the ‘offended’ to determine if its hateful.


28 posted on 12/09/2008 8:44:55 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Sharrukin

they could make it a “hate crime” to express opinions against socialism, or abortion, etc. Interesting times indeed.


29 posted on 12/09/2008 8:48:20 PM PST by dreadnought321
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To: ANGGAPO

I’m so disgusted as to where we are heading.

I don’t for minute think any of the 64 million sheeple will have a clue before it is too late.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they thought it would be a great idea.


30 posted on 12/09/2008 8:51:31 PM PST by Glacier Honey
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

I have cooled relationships with several otherwise intelligent friends because they voted for this traitor.
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The 2000 election was my breaking point.

The 2000 election proved to me that a Democrat was either too stupid or evil to be a friend. Since 2000 I have completely ended all friendships with Democrats and keep contact with Democrat relatives to the absolute minimum.


31 posted on 12/09/2008 9:00:22 PM PST by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Mind-numbed Robot

I have cooled relationships with several otherwise intelligent friends because they voted for this traitor.
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The 2000 election was my breaking point.

The 2000 election proved to me that a Democrat was either too stupid or evil to be a friend. Since 2000 I have completely ended all friendships with Democrats and keep contact with Democrat relatives to the absolute minimum.

31 posted on December 9, 2008 9:00:22 PM by wintertime
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That is actually similar to what happens before the outbreak of civil conflict, or even a civil war. I don’t think the left has any idea what the results of their intolerance might be!


32 posted on 12/09/2008 9:04:55 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Glacier Honey

I’m past the anger, but Ive avoided socializing with liberals all my life, so there’s no change for me now except to hunker down and weather the storm.

There is one aspect of this that gives me optimism, and that’s the fact that the most demanding and unforgiving soul is the American liberal. There’s no way in hell Eclair can get away with continuing to lie to these people. When they turn, it will be harsh and vengeful. Eclair has no idea who he got into bed with.


33 posted on 12/09/2008 10:07:29 PM PST by prismsinc (AIP works for ME!!!!)
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To: Sharrukin
Add this to his “civilian national security force”..I'll just pray for him, but it does seem eerie.
34 posted on 12/09/2008 10:14:38 PM PST by JSDude1 (Like the failed promise of Fascism masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism- Nephi)
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To: JSDude1

Yeah. It’s MAY be happening. I hope not, but all the steps needed for a takeover are being slowly put into place. Worrisome!


35 posted on 12/09/2008 10:16:38 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: freedumb2003

Something tells me those newspapers, and magazeens up for sale right now (may) become more valuable in the future (if you know what I mean), and if it helps answer your question: (Hint: if the internet is regulated where are you going to get your news & information, beside second hand)?


36 posted on 12/09/2008 10:20:10 PM PST by JSDude1 (Like the failed promise of Fascism masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism- Nephi)
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To: randomhero97
This dude is crazy. Actually, the 60+ million that voted for him is absolutely insane.

If they hand down controls on the Internet, especially new ways to identify individuals, it will come around to bite them in the arse, since they are the kings of cyber-organizing, as well as the main purveyors of virulent garbage commentary.

37 posted on 12/09/2008 10:51:50 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Praise and worship" is my alternate lifestyle.)
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To: supercat

Excellent analysis. Thanks for posting this.

It always disturbed me to hear McCain say that Obama was honorable. I put it down to Senate collegiality at the time, but I was unable to shake the feeling that something was seriously wrong. You nailed it.

IMO, if McCain thought Obama was not honorable, but felt compelled to be “polite” or “honorable” he could have just refrained from making the remark. Either he believes it or he’s lying.

Clueless or a liar.

(You see, I am rejected your first possibility. For the sake of completeness, it was necessary for you to list it as a possibility, but there is no evidence to support it and plenty of evidence to refute it.)


38 posted on 12/10/2008 1:27:54 AM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Sharrukin

I have talked to several young and idealistic (and naive) people who think this is just fine. They think it should be against the law to say “mean” things.

Of course, they are totally oblivious to the “mean” things that the networks spew on a regular basis regarding Republicans, conservatives, Christians, people who work hard, gun owners, ....

Duct tape. Need more duct tape.


39 posted on 12/10/2008 1:30:59 AM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I see two major issues for Internet freedom. One is freedom of political speech and the other is freedom for porn. The left wants to control the political speech, but maintain the freedom for porn. In general, the right wants the opposite.

The silver lining to this cloud will be watching the shocked lefties when their freedoms get taken away from them.

It is reassuring to realize that even if the Internet were severely crippled, millions of us have printers and ink and copying machines. They will have a tough time taking away our printers and ink!


40 posted on 12/10/2008 1:39:05 AM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
It was almost as if McCain threw the election.

I mean, just look at the steps:

1. Threw away the "experience" argument (the strongest card in his hand) with his VP pick.
2. Threw away the "sound fiscal policy" argument (the next strongest card in his hand) with his fecklessness on economic issues.
3. Threw away the "better Presidential gravitas" argument (the third yada yada yada) with his crummy debate performance.

41 posted on 12/10/2008 6:56:42 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: steve-b

Also, instead of criticizing his opponent he praised him. When Palin lit a fire under the base he reined her in.


42 posted on 12/10/2008 7:06:43 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping.

I believe we will see more and more articles about “Obama’s Assault on whatever law, custom, rule, etc. etc. he doesn’t like.

IOW, Obama is assaulting America.

And, what are we going to do about it?


43 posted on 12/10/2008 2:15:21 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Reaganite1984; Clemenza; rmlew; neverdem; Yehuda; PARodrig; nutmeg; firebrand

Check out the original at the link. I have always said the left would target the internet. Free speech has it’s days numbered. The oligrachies don’t like an informed public, they prefer trickle down information after they have filtered it.


44 posted on 12/11/2008 3:52:24 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique

Having a Senate rule that respects the filibuster could be invaluable. Maybe McCain and his gang of fourteen could be memorialized as conservative heros??? Who’da thunk it, not so long ago?


45 posted on 12/11/2008 4:43:20 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Black Republican for Bush
Having a Senate rule that respects the filibuster could be invaluable. Maybe McCain and his gang of fourteen could be memorialized as conservative heros???

What you said.

46 posted on 12/12/2008 5:54:21 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Cacique
It is really too good to be true (the Internet, that is). I have thought its days were numbered too. At least the freedom, the relative anonymity, unless you say something criminal.

From an old Ledbelly song: "Meetin' at the buildin' soon be over, soon be over, soon be over, Meetin' at the buildin' soon be over, all over this world." Or was it "all over this land"? Can't remember . . .

47 posted on 12/12/2008 5:57:52 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Edizzl79

There was several threads after November 4th with people posting they did vote for O because of their hatred for McCain, well I dislike McCain intensely, but O scared and scares the hell out of me and my vote didn’t take one minutes thought.


48 posted on 12/13/2008 3:44:23 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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