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Primary school teacher who told children: 'Santa does not exist' is fired
dailymail.co.uk ^ | December 11, 2008 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 12/11/2008 11:13:35 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

A primary school teacher who left a class of 25 pupils in tears after she told told them Santa Claus did not exist has been fired..

When excited youngsters became rowdy as they talked about Santa, the supply teacher blurted out: 'It's your parents who leave out presents on Christmas Day.'

The class of seven-year-olds at Blackshaw Lane Primary School, Royton, near Oldham, Greater Manchester burst into tears and told their parents when they arrived home.

Mothers and fathers then complained about the incident and were sent a letter by the school saying the substitute teacher, who only worked at the school for one day last week, has been disciplined.

The school has now said it will not hire her again.

One father said: 'My son came home and said that his substitute teacher had told the class that Santa doesn't exist and it's your mum and dad that put out presents for them.

'Apparently, they were all talking about Christmas and being a bit rowdy. She just came straight out with it.

'My lad was in tears and so was everyone else in the class - especially as it was so close to Christmas.

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1 posted on 12/11/2008 11:13:35 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I wonder if Obama filled the Education Secretary position yet.


2 posted on 12/11/2008 11:15:41 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Seven year olds should know by then.


3 posted on 12/11/2008 11:17:28 AM PST by DManA
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To: Free ThinkerNY
But Saint Nickolas did exist - and he was quite an inspiration to all who knew him...
4 posted on 12/11/2008 11:18:07 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
'It's your parents who leave out presents on Christmas Day.'

In America, the teacher would be fired for saying "Christmas."

5 posted on 12/11/2008 11:18:18 AM PST by gundog (When the SHTF, it will not be evenly distributed.)
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To: dashing doofus

“I wonder if Obama filled the Education Secretary position yet.”

It will become known as The Ministry of Truth...


6 posted on 12/11/2008 11:18:51 AM PST by jessduntno (Barack - Kenyan for "High Wind, Big Thunder, No Rain")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What he should have said it isn’t Santa Claus that brings all the presents, it’s Obama.


7 posted on 12/11/2008 11:19:31 AM PST by DManA
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To: dashing doofus

8 posted on 12/11/2008 11:19:48 AM PST by Mojave (http://barackobamajokes.googlepages.com/obama_funny)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Next time Teacher, set the example and lie to the students.


9 posted on 12/11/2008 11:20:22 AM PST by BGHater (Obama is a Neocon.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Santa is real in the same way that Uncle Sam is real. Each is a personification of an idea. Uncle Sam is the Spirit of America personified; Santa Claus is the Spirit of Christmas personified.

Saying that Santa Claus isn’t real is just as untrue as saying that Uncle Sam isn’t real. As long as America exists and Christmas is celebrated, they will remain real indeed.


10 posted on 12/11/2008 11:21:11 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Good. The teacher deserved it.


11 posted on 12/11/2008 11:21:22 AM PST by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: B-Chan

Wonder what would have happened to the teacher is she would have said that Jesus does not exist?


12 posted on 12/11/2008 11:22:10 AM PST by Edizzl79 (you want my guns..come and get em...I dare ya....)
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To: DManA

Huh? My seven year old doesn’t and neither does my 10 year old ~ though I susspect he has some ideas.

Kids got the whole rest of their lives to be worldly. Let ‘em have some fun! And while we’re at it, let me get a little chuckle out of playing the fat man!


15 posted on 12/11/2008 11:23:41 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: FrPR

At least two teachers have instructed my children that anthropogenic, catastrophic, global warming is real.

I complained.

The teachers are still there.


16 posted on 12/11/2008 11:24:39 AM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: B-Chan

I really like the way you put that. I agree 100%.


17 posted on 12/11/2008 11:25:45 AM PST by ReluctantDragon
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And what would have happened if she had said God didn’t exist?


18 posted on 12/11/2008 11:25:45 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: DManA

I got dragooned into teaching a Sunday School class for fifth and sixth graders one year. Being an idiot, I let it drop during the discussion that Santa Claus did not exist. I thought that was a pretty safe statement for 10-year-olds.

I was wrong. Oh boy! Was I wrong!

Didn’t get me out of teaching Sunday School, though...


19 posted on 12/11/2008 11:26:14 AM PST by gridlock (QUESTION AUTHORITY)
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To: incredulous joe

I wised up when I was 10 and figured it out by a Calvin and Hobbes strip.


20 posted on 12/11/2008 11:26:30 AM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: jessduntno
It will become known as The Ministry of Truth...

Yeah, but what the hell? I mean Barack Hussein Obama will become known as the President of the United States....

21 posted on 12/11/2008 11:28:26 AM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: LukeL

Santa Claus isn’t real?!?

You mean I’ve been voting Democrat all these years for nothing?


22 posted on 12/11/2008 11:28:57 AM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: proud American in Canada

“Good. The teacher deserved it.”

That’s true, all teachers deserve to be fired. They’re getting paid too much money to do a job they’re not qualified to do.


23 posted on 12/11/2008 11:29:25 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: FrPR

All these Santa scofferas are a drag. They are a bunch of sanctimonious, party-pooping, busy-bodies.

They need to get over trying to impose the “realities of the world” on my kids and deciding at what age is appropriate for them to do so.


24 posted on 12/11/2008 11:29:57 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Public school teachers should stick to what they know best - teaching the kids about the evils of global warming and the joys of homosexual marriage...

(sarc)


25 posted on 12/11/2008 11:31:04 AM PST by PGR88
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To: LukeL

My sister is about 6 years older than me so I learned pretty early. Oh yeah, and my sister is a jerk.


26 posted on 12/11/2008 11:33:07 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Buddy: Who the heck are you?
Gimbel’s Santa: What are you talkin’ about? I’m Santa Claus.
Buddy: No, you’re not.
Gimbel’s Santa: Uh, why of course I am! Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
Buddy: Well, if you’re Santa, what song did I sing for you on your birthday this year?
Gimbel’s Santa: Um, Happy Birthday of course. Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. How old are you son?
Kid with Santa: Four.
Gimbel’s Santa: You’re a big boy. What’s your name?
Kid with Santa: Paul.
Gimbel’s Santa: Now what can I get you for Christmas?
Buddy: Don’t tell him what you want, he’s a liar.
Gimbel’s Santa: Let the kid talk.
Buddy: You disgust me! How can you live with yourself?
Gimbel’s Santa: Just cool it, Zippy.
Buddy: You sit on a throne of lies.
Gimbel’s Santa: Look, I’m not kiddin’.
Buddy: You’re a fake.
Gimbel’s Santa: I’m a fake?
Buddy: Yes!
Gimbel’s Santa: How’d you like to be dead, huh? Ho, ho, just kidding.
Buddy: You stink.
Gimbel’s Santa: I think you’re gonna have a good Christmas, all right.
Buddy: You smell like beef and cheese, you don’t smell like Santa.


27 posted on 12/11/2008 11:34:10 AM PST by LiberConservative ("I would have looked forward to debating anybody." -Sarah Palin)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
My 3rd grade teacher always told her class that Santa was really Mom and Dad.

And every Mom and Dad tried as hard as they could to get their kids into her class so they didn't have to be the ones to break the news to their kids.

And every kid already knew but felt if they let Mom and Dad know they knew, the presents would change from toys to clothes.

My earliest lesson in "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

28 posted on 12/11/2008 11:35:19 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat. But they know what's best.)
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To: LukeL

My parents told me on Christmas Eve when I was my son’s age.

It wasn’t a big deal.

I susspect that next year my boy and I will have lots of fun working the whole Santa myth for my little girl.


29 posted on 12/11/2008 11:35:48 AM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: DManA

I thought it was the Chinese Communists who made all of these toys for us.


30 posted on 12/11/2008 11:39:33 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I believe telling your children the lie of “Santa” is a very bad idea to begin with. Though this teacher obviously should have used more tact, why is telling the truth a fireable offense?


31 posted on 12/11/2008 11:39:43 AM PST by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Santa IS real and works for the government. He has already given away $700 billion and guaranteed several trillion more. He is now deciding if Detroit has been naughty or nice. It doesn't look good.
32 posted on 12/11/2008 11:46:00 AM PST by chuckles
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This reminds me of a story from my past.

My teacher in a church preschool told me there was no Santa Claus. When I got home and told my Mom, she asked me what I thought. I told her "There must be on, since you and Dad could not afford all that stuff!"

Years later, she still jokes that I was right...they couldn't. On the serious side, should the teacher lie (setting a bad example as one poster put it)? You could handle it the way my parents did and the way I did with my kids. If they asked me if there was a Santa Claus, I asked them back "What do you think?". If they answered "No", then I knew they were ready for a deeper conversation about the themes behind the holiday were. They always were told of Christ's role in the season; that we were really celebrating His birth.

33 posted on 12/11/2008 11:50:02 AM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: gridlock
Didn’t get me out of teaching Sunday School, though...

Try harder next time. Something about homosexuals should probably do the trick, depending on the church.

34 posted on 12/11/2008 11:52:51 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: Free ThinkerNY
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35 posted on 12/11/2008 11:56:13 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What? Santa isn’t real? here I thought I never got anything for Christmas because I was bad, what a relief.


36 posted on 12/11/2008 11:56:56 AM PST by Americanexpat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What? Santa isn’t real? here I thought I never got anything for Christmas because I was bad, what a relief.


37 posted on 12/11/2008 11:57:06 AM PST by Americanexpat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What? Santa isn’t real? here I thought I never got anything for Christmas because I was bad, what a relief.


38 posted on 12/11/2008 11:57:17 AM PST by Americanexpat
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To: Americanexpat

Sorry about the multiple post. Computer is acting up.


39 posted on 12/11/2008 12:00:04 PM PST by Americanexpat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

You think that is bad:

Several years ago, a local community had a bright idea. They had Santa “jump” from a hovering helicpoter onto a building. Of course, that was just a stuffed Santa suit and the “real” Santa would climb off the roof.

The stuffed Santa got caught in the rotor wash and missed the building. It “exploded” when it hit the parking lot pavement. The kids were screaming and the parents were horrified. That was not the best way for Santa to come to town!


40 posted on 12/11/2008 12:08:09 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The main stream media lied - America died.)
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To: DManA
Seven year olds should know by then.

I have a 19 year old who still believes in Santa.

However, he is a special needs child and I see no reason to crush this belief.
41 posted on 12/11/2008 12:15:33 PM PST by jrg
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To: beaversmom

Well, since I am an Episcopalian, the thing that would get me out of teaching Sunday School in my church would probably be different than what it would be in yours...


42 posted on 12/11/2008 12:27:31 PM PST by gridlock (QUESTION AUTHORITY)
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To: incredulous joe

“Huh? My seven year old doesn’t and neither does my 10 year old ~ though I susspect he has some ideas.

Kids got the whole rest of their lives to be worldly. Let ‘em have some fun! And while we’re at it, let me get a little chuckle out of playing the fat man!”

Thank you from a father of 6 wonderful kids.....C


43 posted on 12/11/2008 12:29:26 PM PST by colinhester
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To: N. Theknow
And every kid already knew but felt if they let Mom and Dad know they knew, the presents would change from toys to clothes.
A real conversation between my brother, who was 3 years older than I:

Me: There is no Santa, I'm going to tell Mom & Dad we know.
Bro: Notice that only Santa brings toys? Mom & Dad only give clothes. You tell them that, no more toys!
Me & Bro: We believe! We believe!

Then, in another conversation that same year I did not learn about for many years, between Mom and my sister, who is 11 years older than me:

Mom: ...then that morning we will do Santa for the boys.
Sis: Mom, they don't still believe in Santa.
Mom: Oh yes they do.

We had her convinced for 2 more years...

44 posted on 12/11/2008 12:43:20 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: incredulous joe

They’re probably pretending for your sake.


45 posted on 12/11/2008 1:30:25 PM PST by DManA
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To: Arrowhead1952

Please tell me someone has a video of that.


46 posted on 12/11/2008 1:32:21 PM PST by DManA
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To: 5thGenTexan
A real conversation between my brother, who was 3 years older than I:

Me: There is no Santa, I'm going to tell Mom & Dad we know.
Bro: Notice that only Santa brings toys? Mom & Dad only give clothes. You tell them that, no more toys!
Me & Bro: We believe! We believe!

I never knew I had a brother from Texas.

My brother and I had the same conversation and he is also 3 years older than I.

Only difference was we had no sister just an older cousin.

Yep. She was/is 11 years older.

47 posted on 12/11/2008 1:35:14 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat. But they know what's best.)
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To: DManA

I would think there may be a video, but have no idea where to look. That happened in a fairly small town in central Texas.


48 posted on 12/11/2008 1:42:24 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The main stream media lied - America died.)
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To: Edizzl79
Wonder what would have happened to the teacher is she would have said that Jesus does not exist?

The school board would have given her a medal.

49 posted on 12/11/2008 1:45:12 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: DManA
Seven year olds should know by then.

"Yes Virgina.................."

50 posted on 12/11/2008 1:53:53 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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