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Primary school teacher who told children: 'Santa does not exist' is fired
dailymail.co.uk ^ | December 11, 2008 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 12/11/2008 11:13:35 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

A primary school teacher who left a class of 25 pupils in tears after she told told them Santa Claus did not exist has been fired..

When excited youngsters became rowdy as they talked about Santa, the supply teacher blurted out: 'It's your parents who leave out presents on Christmas Day.'

The class of seven-year-olds at Blackshaw Lane Primary School, Royton, near Oldham, Greater Manchester burst into tears and told their parents when they arrived home.

Mothers and fathers then complained about the incident and were sent a letter by the school saying the substitute teacher, who only worked at the school for one day last week, has been disciplined.

The school has now said it will not hire her again.

One father said: 'My son came home and said that his substitute teacher had told the class that Santa doesn't exist and it's your mum and dad that put out presents for them.

'Apparently, they were all talking about Christmas and being a bit rowdy. She just came straight out with it.

'My lad was in tears and so was everyone else in the class - especially as it was so close to Christmas.

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To: DManA
Seven year olds should know by then.

I have a 19 year old who still believes in Santa.

However, he is a special needs child and I see no reason to crush this belief.
41 posted on 12/11/2008 12:15:33 PM PST by jrg
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To: beaversmom

Well, since I am an Episcopalian, the thing that would get me out of teaching Sunday School in my church would probably be different than what it would be in yours...


42 posted on 12/11/2008 12:27:31 PM PST by gridlock (QUESTION AUTHORITY)
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To: incredulous joe

“Huh? My seven year old doesn’t and neither does my 10 year old ~ though I susspect he has some ideas.

Kids got the whole rest of their lives to be worldly. Let ‘em have some fun! And while we’re at it, let me get a little chuckle out of playing the fat man!”

Thank you from a father of 6 wonderful kids.....C


43 posted on 12/11/2008 12:29:26 PM PST by colinhester
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To: N. Theknow
And every kid already knew but felt if they let Mom and Dad know they knew, the presents would change from toys to clothes.
A real conversation between my brother, who was 3 years older than I:

Me: There is no Santa, I'm going to tell Mom & Dad we know.
Bro: Notice that only Santa brings toys? Mom & Dad only give clothes. You tell them that, no more toys!
Me & Bro: We believe! We believe!

Then, in another conversation that same year I did not learn about for many years, between Mom and my sister, who is 11 years older than me:

Mom: ...then that morning we will do Santa for the boys.
Sis: Mom, they don't still believe in Santa.
Mom: Oh yes they do.

We had her convinced for 2 more years...

44 posted on 12/11/2008 12:43:20 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: incredulous joe

They’re probably pretending for your sake.


45 posted on 12/11/2008 1:30:25 PM PST by DManA
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To: Arrowhead1952

Please tell me someone has a video of that.


46 posted on 12/11/2008 1:32:21 PM PST by DManA
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To: 5thGenTexan
A real conversation between my brother, who was 3 years older than I:

Me: There is no Santa, I'm going to tell Mom & Dad we know.
Bro: Notice that only Santa brings toys? Mom & Dad only give clothes. You tell them that, no more toys!
Me & Bro: We believe! We believe!

I never knew I had a brother from Texas.

My brother and I had the same conversation and he is also 3 years older than I.

Only difference was we had no sister just an older cousin.

Yep. She was/is 11 years older.

47 posted on 12/11/2008 1:35:14 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat. But they know what's best.)
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To: DManA

I would think there may be a video, but have no idea where to look. That happened in a fairly small town in central Texas.


48 posted on 12/11/2008 1:42:24 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The main stream media lied - America died.)
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To: Edizzl79
Wonder what would have happened to the teacher is she would have said that Jesus does not exist?

The school board would have given her a medal.

49 posted on 12/11/2008 1:45:12 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: DManA
Seven year olds should know by then.

"Yes Virgina.................."

50 posted on 12/11/2008 1:53:53 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Free ThinkerNY
When I was a child, women were discriminated against And that helped the children. The women who today runs a corporations back then was teaching 7 year olds. The 7 year olds had the benefit of society's discrimination. (As did incompetent men)

Today's children get the equivalent of the Penney's shoe clerk or the ditch digger.

It's why Johnnie can't read, gets seduced and his teacher can't pass a simple math test.

The solution? Cut the unions out of teaching - the blue collar people can still serve the slop in the kitchens, drive the buses, fix the plumbing, and sweep the floors.

But not teach.

Teachers need to be professionals. Smart, capable, professionals with with 40 hour weeks, real pay, and standards.

51 posted on 12/11/2008 1:54:22 PM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives birth nasty unintended consequences.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; neverdem; nuconvert
When I was a child, women were discriminated against And that helped the children. The women who today runs a corporations back then was teaching 7 year olds. The 7 year olds had the benefit of society's discrimination. (As did incompetent men)

Today's children get the equivalent of the Penney's shoe clerk or the ditch digger.

It's why Johnnie can't read, gets seduced and his teacher can't pass a simple math test.

The solution? Cut the unions out of teaching - the blue collar people can still serve the slop in the kitchens, drive the buses, fix the plumbing, and sweep the floors.

But not teach.

Teachers need to be professionals. Smart, capable, professionals with with 40 hour weeks, real pay, and standards.

52 posted on 12/11/2008 1:55:39 PM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives birth nasty unintended consequences.)
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To: 2banana
But Saint Nickolas did exist - and he was quite an inspiration to all who knew him...

Now he didn't. Noone knew him. And you are really too old to believe in St Nicholas

53 posted on 12/11/2008 2:01:41 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Zero tolerance does not mean putting up with Barack for the next 4 years - that's just punishment)
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To: DManA
They’re probably pretending for your sake.

Talking Points for Santa Scoffers!

That's always the first one out of the quiver ~ everytime!


54 posted on 12/11/2008 2:25:16 PM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe

Ok. Then you’ve got a couple of nut cases. You know ‘em better than me.


55 posted on 12/11/2008 2:31:22 PM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

My kids are kids. They’re innocent, as they should be and as my wife and I work to keep them.

The local public school girls wear thong underwear by 4th grade and strut around the malls with “hottie” on their tees ~ or on their asses. The boys seem permanently linked to some kind of gaming device.

If my kids are nut cases; color us all permanently “whacked out.”


57 posted on 12/11/2008 3:22:13 PM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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To: incredulous joe

When do you intend to tell your 10 year old?

What do you intend to tell him when he asks, what else are you lying to me about?


58 posted on 12/11/2008 3:55:30 PM PST by DManA
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To: 5thGenTexan

My brother, sister, and I were never taught to believe in Santa Claus. However, this did not stop us from suddenly, as teenagers, declaring a belief in Santa Claus, hanging stockings from our fireplace, and telling our parents that the only reason we never got presents from Santa before was that we never had put up the stockings before. Sadly, it didn’t work, even with my little sister giving my parents her puppy-dog eyes... but it was a valiant effort =P


59 posted on 12/11/2008 4:12:09 PM PST by Hyzenthlay (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: DManA
what else are you lying to me about?

Don't trouble yourself with it, D. You're a joyless prude.

How long have you been arguing so forcefully against the existence of a fictional being?

I feel the fun getting sucked from my bones by sheer virtue of being on this thread with you.




60 posted on 12/11/2008 5:05:55 PM PST by incredulous joe ("No road is long with good company. " - Turkish Proverb)
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