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How Bernie Madoff Made Smart Folks Look Dumb
wordpress ^ | 12/13/08

Posted on 12/14/2008 6:02:44 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Edited on 12/14/2008 6:05:26 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

What do George Carlin and Bernard Madoff have in common?

Mr. Madoff just put the silliest of all financial oxymorons into the spotlight: “sophisticated investor.”

The accounts managed by Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC reported gains of roughly 1% a month like clockwork, with nary a loss, for two decades. Why did that freakishly smooth return not set off alarms among current and prospective investors?


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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: exclusive; madoff; psychology; wallstreet

1 posted on 12/14/2008 6:02:45 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; bamahead; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 12/14/2008 6:03:09 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

right on top of it....
best regards


3 posted on 12/14/2008 6:04:08 AM PST by pointsal
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To: TigerLikesRooster

There is no “upper limit” on the IQ of a sucker...


4 posted on 12/14/2008 6:05:12 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I hate to see people lose their life savings, but greedy people normally get what they deserve.


5 posted on 12/14/2008 6:07:08 AM PST by devane617 (...And to the Republic For Which It Stood...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It’s the entitlement syndrome.

Not much different than Blago when you come down to it.


6 posted on 12/14/2008 6:10:56 AM PST by Carley (Prayers for Sgt. Eddie Ryan)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I guess Bernie made off with the money.


7 posted on 12/14/2008 6:15:11 AM PST by reg45
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I wonder if Rush Bimbo was snared in this Ponzi Scheme?


8 posted on 12/14/2008 6:28:53 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It will be interesting when we get the full story on this - if we ever do. He was probably laundering money.


9 posted on 12/14/2008 6:32:42 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Laurence Leamer
Posted December 12, 2008 | 03:32 PM (E

Bernard Madoff and the Jews of Palm Beach

People in Palm Beach sort themselves out into the group in which they belong based largely on how much money they have. Even the poorest of the islanders seem to have everything yet joy proves elusive, even for the country club members, because there is always someone richer or better socially connected. Joy is driving out of your 35,000-square-foot mansion in your Bentley and tooling up to the entrance of Mar-a-Lago for your fifteenth ball of the season, the valet parkers salivating at the chance to take your car and the prospect of a twenty-dollar tip. Joy is having a wife younger and thinner than any of the other wives at your table. Joy is subtly announced during dinner that your hedge fund scored 33 percent last year, while that of the arrogant son of a bitch across the table with the fat wife scored only 17 percent....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laurence-leamer/bernard-madoff-and-the-sh_b_150624.html


10 posted on 12/14/2008 6:33:10 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: TigerLikesRooster

By the looks of it, the investors were 95% democrat party supporters and/or big contributors.


11 posted on 12/14/2008 6:40:34 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: FormerACLUmember

I posted the output of an FEC.gov search on Madoff’s political contributions on the first news thread on this. His contributions certainly fit that percentage. Probably closer to 100%.


12 posted on 12/14/2008 6:43:59 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Madoff made off.


13 posted on 12/14/2008 6:45:27 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Carley

Your right! The gift wrapping is different but the gift inside is the same! CROOK!!!!!


14 posted on 12/14/2008 6:47:49 AM PST by classified
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To: devane617

You can’t cheat an honest man
WC Fields


15 posted on 12/14/2008 7:08:47 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“how bernie medoff made smart folks look dumb.”

a bunch of “brilliant” people invest in a fund that shows unrealistically high returns. the fund gets exposed as a “ponzi” scheme and all-of-a-sudden, these “brilliant” people become dumb.

complicit might be more accurate.

IMHO


16 posted on 12/14/2008 8:10:38 AM PST by ripley
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To: ripley

I know a guy who was in this deal.
He started getting nervous about 6 months ago.
Right now he doesn’t know how much money he really has.


17 posted on 12/14/2008 8:11:56 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation
Is it safe to assume that you now have a lot more than he does? It is quite likely.
18 posted on 12/14/2008 8:29:03 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
When he took your fortune, he told you that he would tell you nothing about how he achieved his returns. He was a god. He had the Midas touch.

History repeats itself. "In April 1720, at about the time the Mississippi Scheme [Bubble] was already in deep trouble, . . . In the process, they bid up the prices of other rather suspect companies, such as companies . . . 'for carrying on an undertaking of Great Advantage but no one to know what it is' ".

19 posted on 12/14/2008 8:38:16 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: devane617
It may be worse than some people suspect. Assuming that Madoff (or his investment company) wind up in an involuntary bankruptcy, and assuming that Madoff’s investments were really just a big Ponzi scheme, those investors who received money from Madoff in the last few years will have to give it back. In bankruptcy court, the proceeds from a Ponzi scheme (sometimes called a blind pool) are fraudulent conveyances, even though the individual investors had no notice of the fraud, and did nothing wrong themselves. A lot of those investors are going to have some very disturbing conversations with their lawyers in the next few days.
20 posted on 12/14/2008 9:05:21 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: reg45
No. Bernie took some, but the whole Ponzi scheme thing is paying old investors with new money. After a while the requests for redemptions exceed new money and it all falls down.

This one is a humdinger though. $50 Billion.

Lots of Jewish people in Palm Beach and on Long Island are sitting Shiva right now.

According to the New York Post some have individually lost more than $500 million.

That, my friends is a lot of mazuma!

21 posted on 12/14/2008 1:55:56 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: reg45
I guess Bernie made off with the money.

I would like to see a thorough audit of his trades for the last few years. Either his was a scheme to defraud a whole bunch of wealthy investors, or it was a scheme to launder their wealth offshore while making it LOOK like they lost the money.

It would not surprise me if he defrauded them. Holders of inherited wealth are generally not as smart as the ancestor who first earned the wealth, which is why such people are advocates of big government -- as a tool to make sure that only people who already have wealth can compete.

22 posted on 12/14/2008 2:04:20 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (We used to institutionalize the insane. Now we elect them.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Holders of inherited wealth are generally not as smart as the ancestor who first earned the wealth

That's an understatement!

23 posted on 12/14/2008 3:59:25 PM PST by kcvl
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Bernie Madoff is the Barrack Obama of finance.
24 posted on 12/15/2008 9:55:20 AM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: FormerACLUmember

Well he just took the Social Security model and brought it to the private sector.......


25 posted on 12/15/2008 9:58:06 AM PST by nascarnation
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