Joint CHP-Marine Corps Checkpoint Raises Suspicions

KESQ ^ | Dec. 16, 2008 | Nathan Baca

[decimon]

he California Highway Patrol in the High Desert and the Twentynine Palms Marine Base are receiving dozens of calls complaining about a controversial DUI checkpoint. Military Police joined the CHP for a recent checkpoint in Yucca Valley.

[mad_as_he$$]

If the CHP is involved there are no good intentions.

[angkor]

>>>>>>If people would read the ENTIRE article — they would see there is no cause for concern.... NONE.<<<<<<<

There’s a lot of that going around on FR lately.

The next step is to handhold people through the article paragraph-by-paragraph.

[Blackhawk]

But SP is a detail and not an MOS, no?

Yes and No. For me it was just a detail. My MOS was CTM Cryptography, but I was often accompanied by Master at Arms (MA's). Master at Arms are basically Navy Police. I'm no slouch, but these guy's were mostly 6'4" and 250. Nice to have backing you up in case of trouble.

[mnehring]

There’s a lot of that going around on FR lately.

Lately? That's been SOP here for a decade.

[Bob]

Probably okay, I stood Shore Patrol...

But SP is a detail and not an MOS, no?

Many years (actually decades) ago, there was no distinct rate for SP; individuals from visiting ships were detailed in support of a port's local semi-permanent shore patrol detachment. (The locals knew the town; the ship's personnel knew their fellow crew members.)

If I'm not mistaken, the Navy now has a Master At Arms rate as its own specialty.

[Blackhawk]

Hey, weren’t you that swabbie who once carded me for that 3.2 “beer” I was drinking at NTC?

Only if it was in '77. Then maybe could be. Loved the watches at the Club carding and breaking up fights. Never dull, never boring and I could smoke. Can't smoke when doing Roving Patrol. Well, could, just don't get caught.

[Oatka]

Loved that movie (They Live!). Most chilling line: “I have one who can SEE.”

The original story was about meat-eating aliens, and while good, I liked Carpenter’s Earth-aa-a-Third-World-sweatshop better. The earth men who sold out are todays “Free Traders”.

[decimon]

If the CHP is involved there are no good intentions.

Now you'll have Erik Estrada all worked up.

[Mr. Lucky]

I don’t believe folks with actual experience are allowed to post on these conspiracy threads.

[Blackhawk]

If I'm not mistaken, the Navy now has a Master At Arms rate as its own specialty. Yep. Didn't know that there didn't used to be but we had them from at least '76 on.

[decimon]

I don’t believe folks with actual experience are allowed to post on these conspiracy threads.

I was hoping someone with MP experience would chime in.

[Secret Agent Man]

29 Palms marines....

You know, if they picked any other marine contingent that would be one thing. But 29 Palms is famous for being the groups of marines that were given the “would you shoot civilians” questionnaires.

[Bob]

If I'm not mistaken, the Navy now has a Master At Arms rate as its own specialty.
Yep. Didn't know that there didn't used to be but we had them from at least '76 on.

Well, that fits. I got out in 1975. AFAIK, at the time, Masters at Arms were pulled from other rates and given job-specific specialized training. (As I said, it's been decades.)

[444Flyer]

“No worries, mate. This’ll all be peachy when it's a joint CHP/ObamaCorps checkpoint operation. There won't be but a few complaint calls then, and they'll be quickly taken care of.”

Anybody know what is up with this Civilian Police Force taking up with the Marine Corps? Does this sound paramilitary? Links:

http://www.usmccle.com/civLawHome.htm

[ansel12]

“Do the military branches send their police, into towns where the servicemen visit?

Shore Patrol, MPs etc? I thought they DID.”

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Having dodged MPs when I was in beautiful downtown Leesville La. without a pass during basic training, I would say yes.

[hedgetrimmer]

What the heck?!?!

[decimon]

Looks like they are hiring (not enlisting) civilian police to supplant or supplement MPs. Like hiring civilian cooks.

[SECURE AMERICA]

Military Police regularly work with Government Police all across the Nation.
Have done so since I was a Military Police Officer back in 1970’s

[444Flyer]

What's wrong with just using MP’s? They are bringing in civilians alongside the MP’s on base. Wouldn't there be a conflict of interests between those being the civilian force and the Marine’s own MPs? Whom answers to whom I wonder. What jurisdiction does the Civy force answer to? What happens when this “civilian force” is called off base and must deal with civilians rather than military personnel? What other purposes could a specialized force of 1200+ civilian officers who have been trained alongside the Marines serve outside of serving on bases?

Lots of questions...(especially with Obama coming into play in a month).

[angkor]

>>>Lately? That’s been SOP here for a decade.<<<<<

Proud author of 14,000 FR posts and not a single article read!