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Domestic Dispute Ends in Deadly Shooting (Texas)
The Houston Chronice ^ | 12/20/08 | Unknown

Posted on 12/21/2008 3:54:12 AM PST by BnBlFlag

Domestic dispute ends in a deadly shooting Conroe police say altercation arose when father tried to take children Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle Dec. 20, 2008, 9:26PM Share Print Email Del.icio.usDiggTechnoratiYahoo! BuzzA woman's 80-year-old grandfather fatally shot her estranged husband after he tried to take their two children from the grandparents' house, Conroe police said Saturday. Brice Wade Boudreaux, 32, died Friday evening at the home on Silver Creek Drive in Conroe, police said in a statement. The investigation was ongoing Saturday, and it was not immediately clear whether the grandfather would face charges. He was questioned by police and released. According to police, Boudreaux's estranged wife and children have been living with her grandparents for about five months.

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Don't mess with East Texas Paw Paws up in the Piney Woods. It can be downright hazardous to your health.
1 posted on 12/21/2008 3:54:13 AM PST by BnBlFlag
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To: BnBlFlag

Don’t pick a fight with an old man.
He will just kill you.


2 posted on 12/21/2008 3:58:45 AM PST by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: BnBlFlag

If this had been in Austin, the old guy would likely have charges...but this was in Conroe...and I’m thinking he is pretty safe. Although some relative could put up civil court proceedings claiming unnecessary actions. What they don’t say is how many shots were fired....and I’m thinking if it was just one...the old guy was a pretty good shot.


3 posted on 12/21/2008 4:00:53 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: TLEIBY308

Boudreaux again pushed the older man and allegedly struck him in the chest area where he recently had a pacemaker inserted, police said.


4 posted on 12/21/2008 4:02:01 AM PST by kcvl
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To: BnBlFlag

Conroe Police say altercation arose when man tried to takr children.
The link would not post. See the above story on the front page under the above title under Top Stories.


5 posted on 12/21/2008 4:05:28 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag

Boudreaux and his wife (Berwick’s granddaughter) were in the process of getting a divorce, Berry said. The preliminary investigation indicated the younger man went to the elderly man’s residence where he attempted to take his two small children, a female toddler and a slightly older male, he said. The children and their mother have lived there for approximately five months and she and Boudreaux were in the process of divorcing, Berry said.

Berry said there were prior calls for service at the residence, but did not elaborate on the nature of the calls.


6 posted on 12/21/2008 4:08:41 AM PST by kcvl
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To: weegee; Allegra; American72; humblegunner

Houston Ping!


7 posted on 12/21/2008 4:09:17 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag
Most Policemen I know dread having to respond to a domestic dispute call.

Typically, the wife defends the abusive spouse and the Policeman usually ends up dead.


8 posted on 12/21/2008 4:14:55 AM PST by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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To: BnBlFlag
I'm betting Paw-Paw's granddaughter is the one really responsible for those children's father being dead now?

I didn't find the story at the link, but you know the back story is a battle over custody and visitation.

9 posted on 12/21/2008 4:16:00 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: BnBlFlag
Domestic dispute ends in a deadly shooting
10 posted on 12/21/2008 4:20:38 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: BnBlFlag
Link To Story
11 posted on 12/21/2008 4:21:24 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Grandpa followed him around, so self defense isn’t much of a defense here, is it?
I wonder why the mother didn’t have them, but placed them with an 80 yo couple?, wow, the kids must have worn them out.
I wonder if this is a case of the mother hiding them to punish the father, and then him finding them and getting killed for trying to see his kids.


12 posted on 12/21/2008 4:45:49 AM PST by DeLaine (You can't make up anything anymore. The world itself is a satire. All you're doing is recording it.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

oops, excuse please, the mom lived there too, I just noticed that part.


13 posted on 12/21/2008 4:46:36 AM PST by DeLaine (You can't make up anything anymore. The world itself is a satire. All you're doing is recording it.)
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To: BnBlFlag

Isn’t divorce grand? /s


14 posted on 12/21/2008 5:07:47 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: BnBlFlag

Paw-Paw with a pacemaker pulls a peacemaker; grandkids are AOK ... film at 10PM.


15 posted on 12/21/2008 5:09:03 AM PST by ByteMercenary (9-11: supported everywhere by followers of the the cult of islam.)
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To: LearsFool

“Isn’t divorce grand”?
It can be anywhere from bad to horrible but it usually does’t end in death. I’m sure more facts will come out about this case. I strongly suspect the soon to be ex-husband was a spouse abuser.


16 posted on 12/21/2008 5:13:32 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: ByteMercenary

Very poetic!


17 posted on 12/21/2008 5:21:07 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: BnBlFlag

How do we know that the father didn’t have a legal right to be with his children? I’ll wait on this one.


18 posted on 12/21/2008 5:33:32 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: DeLaine
Grandpa followed him around, so self defense isn’t much of a defense here, is it? I wonder why the mother didn’t have them, but placed them with an 80 yo couple?, wow, the kids must have worn them out. I wonder if this is a case of the mother hiding them to punish the father, and then him finding them and getting killed for trying to see his kids.

1.)Grandpa didn't follow him around. The guy was there without permission which effectively means, in a lot of states, that he was breaking and entering. He pushed Grandpa out of the way when Grandpa tried to stop him from coming in. Grandpa tried to get him to leave peacefully but daddy wanted to take the children and got physical with grandpa by striking him in the chest. I have a pace maker and if any a**hat hits me in the chest they are also going to be shot.

2.)The mother IS living with granparents. The article clearly states that she has been staying there "with her children for about 5 months" while in a divorce proceeding.

If this guy had a problem with the custody, of if his wife acted unlawfully he should have gone to court. In most states his actions would be considered kidnapping. I know, they are his children also but you don't have the right to go into your ex-wife's residence and forcibly take the kids. Grandpa acted within the law IMO.

19 posted on 12/21/2008 5:40:10 AM PST by calex59
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To: BnBlFlag

“Jesse Berwick, the owner of the home, allegedly would not allow Boudreaux to take his children. He ordered Boudreaux to leave his residence. Boudreaux reportedly refused to leave and pushed Berwick out of his way.

Police were told that 80-year-old Berwick then got his gun from another room. When Boudreaux reportedly still refused to leave, a shoving match ensued on the homeowner’s driveway.

It was during this time that Boudreaux apparently struck Berwick in the chest where his pacemaker had recently been placed.

Berwick told police that he felt his life was threatened, and he reportedly fired the weapon, striking Boudreaux in the torso area.”
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Sounds like Brice was a fool. A dead fool now. If he had a legal right for visitation and the family was refusing - he should have had the sheriff’s office send a deputy with him instead of trying to play big shot with an old man who acted in self defense.


20 posted on 12/21/2008 5:48:37 AM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: SouthDixie

“Most Policemen I know dread having to respond to a domestic dispute call.

Typically, the wife defends the abusive spouse and the Policeman usually ends up dead.”

I don’t think typically is the right word here. If this were true, then thousands of cops would die each year in domestic abuse calls. Yes, the cops I know don’t like domestic abuse calls, but usually what they do here is just arrest both parties. They don’t try and work things out, figure out who was right or wrong. it’s much safer to just slap the braclets on each party and let the courts figure it out.


21 posted on 12/21/2008 5:50:49 AM PST by strider44
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To: BnBlFlag

www.myspace.com/bricehuntsdeer


22 posted on 12/21/2008 5:53:41 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: calex59
I know, they are his children also but you don't have the right to go into your ex-wife's residence and forcibly take the kids. Grandpa acted within the law IMO.

The Dad was ordered to leave and was doing so. Grandpa was not defending himself or his property, unless you consider the Dad's children to be property of the Grandpa.

Geez. For all we know he's a senile old man that is being duped by a bitter vindictive granddaughter into denying this Dad his children.

23 posted on 12/21/2008 5:55:32 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: BnBlFlag
You're right, of course. And calex59's post #19 is right as well:

If this guy had a problem with the custody, of if his wife acted unlawfully he should have gone to court. In most states his actions would be considered kidnapping. I know, they are his children also but you don't have the right to go into your ex-wife's residence and forcibly take the kids. Grandpa acted within the law IMO.

But let me ask this: When the law comes between a man and his children, what do we expect he's going to do?

Stepping between a father and his children - or mother and her children, for that matter - is a dangerous, dangerous thing to do.
24 posted on 12/21/2008 6:05:00 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Shooter 2.5

Very interesting. By following the links provided, it’s clear the Dad is/was a loving father with a vested interest in his children.


25 posted on 12/21/2008 6:06:56 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: calex59

Well Grandpa did follow him and shot him, I call that following him around.
and Grandpa has no rights to keep this man’s children, if there is no custody agreement. If there was one, then it’s as you say.
I know it could be this man was an abuser. Or it could be his (ex) wife was one and kept or hid his children from him.
My ex didn’t get our kids, but he told EVERYONE he saw or met wild, untrue stories about me.


26 posted on 12/21/2008 6:08:00 AM PST by DeLaine (You can't make up anything anymore. The world itself is a satire. All you're doing is recording it.)
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To: BnBlFlag

From another source in Conroe:

Two dead in Conroe shootings

By Elliott Cochran
Updated: 12.20.08
Separate shooting incidents in Conroe less than six hours apart left two men dead and two others facing capital murder charges as a result of one of the shootings.

A domestic disturbance ended in death around 7:30 p.m. Friday at 28 Silver Creek Drive after an argument and physical altercation between a grandfather and his granddaughter’s estranged husband ultimately resulted in the shooting of Brice Wade Boudreaux, 32, according to Conroe police officials.

The second shooting occurred around 1:15 a.m. Saturday when a friendly conversation concerning the sale of an automobile allegedly segued into a robbery and the fatal shooting of an unarmed passenger in a moving vehicle, police said.

Luis Enrique Rivera, 29, and Luis Antonio Menendez, 19, were later taken into custody without incident and have been charged with capital murder.

The shooting of Boudreaux was reportedly triggered when he visited the home of Jessee Berwick, 80, where the victim’s wife and two children lived for the past five months. According to a Conroe Police press release, Boudreaux was at the residence to take custody of his two children.

According to the police report, Berwick ordered Boudreaux to leave his residence and Boudreaux responded by twice pushing Berwick. Berwick reportedly retrieved a revolver from another room in the home.

The police report stated that Berwick and Boudreaux exited the residence and Berwick again instructed Boudreaux to leave. Boudreaux then struck Berwick a third time, reportedly where Berwick had recently had a pacemaker for his heart placed.

Berwick then allegedly shot Boudreaux in the torso.

A neighbor who wished to remain anonymous said Boudreaux and his wife were in the midst of a divorce which had escalated into a “hostile process.” The neighbor said Berwick was generally “mild-mannered,” but there was a great deal of animosity between him and Boudreaux.

Montgomery County Justice of the Peace Pct. 2 Trey Spikes pronounced Boudreaux dead at the scene and ordered an autopsy.

An investigation by the Conroe Police Department is ongoing and no arrests had been made as of Saturday afternoon.

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http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2008/12/21/conroe_courier/news/murders1221.txt


27 posted on 12/21/2008 6:13:34 AM PST by deport
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To: RGSpincich
for all we know

The operative terms. We sit here reading the cowplops of modern journalism, we're lucky if the information is adequate never mind accurate, and then we pass our judgments which are formed mostly of our own preconceived opinions.

Personally, I say Gramps dispatched a sidewinder, and for the kids' sake should've just hobbled him.

28 posted on 12/21/2008 6:15:50 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Problem id'd, opinion keyed in...now, what will you DO about it?)
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To: RGSpincich

Here’s her’s.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=54151470

Her friend Amber laughs about how both of them are going through a “Nasty Divorce”.


29 posted on 12/21/2008 6:18:49 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: BnBlFlag
I strongly suspect the soon to be ex-husband was a spouse abuser.

No soon-to-be about it! He's an ex-parrot!

30 posted on 12/21/2008 6:22:48 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Problem id'd, opinion keyed in...now, what will you DO about it?)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
and for the kids' sake should've just hobbled him.

Yeah, the multiple gunshots to the torso would reflect the mindset of the shooter.

31 posted on 12/21/2008 6:23:03 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: daybreakcoming
Very little more from the local Conroe newspaper on this: The shooting of Boudreaux was reportedly triggered when he visited the home of Jessee Berwick, 80, where the victim’s wife and two children lived for the past five months. According to a Conroe Police press release, Boudreaux was at the residence to take custody of his two children. According to the police report, Berwick ordered Boudreaux to leave his residence and Boudreaux responded by twice pushing Berwick. Berwick reportedly retrieved a revolver from another room in the home. The police report stated that Berwick and Boudreaux exited the residence and Berwick again instructed Boudreaux to leave. Boudreaux then struck Berwick a third time, reportedly where Berwick had recently had a pacemaker for his heart placed. Berwick then allegedly shot Boudreaux in the torso. A neighbor who wished to remain anonymous said Boudreaux and his wife were in the midst of a divorce which had escalated into a “hostile process.” The neighbor said Berwick was generally “mild-mannered,” but there was a great deal of animosity between him and Boudreaux. Montgomery County Justice of the Peace Pct. 2 Trey Spikes pronounced Boudreaux dead at the scene and ordered an autopsy. An investigation by the Conroe Police Department is ongoing and no arrests had been made as of Saturday afternoon.
32 posted on 12/21/2008 6:24:07 AM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: Shooter 2.5

Friend/family of Brice, Tiffany tells her “I hope it hurts when you breathe”.

There is a whole lot more to this story.


33 posted on 12/21/2008 6:28:19 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: BnBlFlag

If anyone comes on my property uninvited, and strikes me anywhere, they are dead. I don’t care if they came after the daughter’s children,or to go birdwatching. I am a lifelong resident of central Texas, and most folks here take thier security on thier own private property very seriously. Those that go on another’s property are expected to respect that person after they are there. In a child custody case such as this was, the father should have got the sheriff dept. to go with him if he was rightfully going after his children. If he was wrongfully attempting to take those kids, he got what he had coming,IMHO


34 posted on 12/21/2008 6:30:37 AM PST by Quickgun
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To: RGSpincich
Yeah, the multiple gunshots to the torso would reflect the mindset of the shooter.

Where are you getting that info? This article states he shot him once.

Oh, I should have looked at your name. I remember you now. You're making it up again. Nevermind.

35 posted on 12/21/2008 6:36:47 AM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Her webpage was a visual nightmare.


36 posted on 12/21/2008 6:38:38 AM PST by csvset
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To: BnBlFlag

I know I’ll probably get burned for saying this, but did anyone notice that a man, in the process of a divorce, was killed for trying to see or take HIS OWN KIDS?


37 posted on 12/21/2008 6:40:54 AM PST by suthener
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To: BykrBayb

This article states he shot him once.


Curious, where are you getting that info of ‘one shot’? What I read is he shot in in the torso but doesn’t state if it was one shot or multiple.


38 posted on 12/21/2008 6:42:52 AM PST by deport
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To: suthener

was killed for trying to see or take HIS OWN KIDS?


That’s a part of the story we don’t know with the info we have. It is very possible that going through a divorce he had visitation rights and was there to pick up the children for that purpose. After all it occurred at 7:20 pm on a Friday night according to that article info which could be in line with a weekend visitation.

At this stage we just don’t know the entire facts......


39 posted on 12/21/2008 6:47:06 AM PST by deport
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To: BykrBayb

The multiple gunshots report is from another article.


40 posted on 12/21/2008 6:47:07 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: deport

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nb/conroe/news/6175031.html ~ Fearing for his life, police said the older man then allegedly shot Boudreaux once, killing him.


41 posted on 12/21/2008 6:52:11 AM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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To: deport

One of the commenters mentioned this would have been his weekend to have the kids according to Texas law. The law was posted with the comments. That’s if they already went before a judge and had a ruling.


42 posted on 12/21/2008 6:53:06 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: BykrBayb
Where are you getting that info? This article states he shot him once. Oh, I should have looked at your name. I remember you now. You're making it up again. Nevermind.

I remember you too. I see you still have diarrhea of the mouth. Here's the link and the quote, Bkyr Blab.

Around 7:30 p.m. Conroe Police officers responded to the residence of 80-year-old Jesse Berwick where they found the body of 32-year-old Brice Wade Boudreaux, of Willis, lying on the driveway with multiple gunshot wounds, according to CPD Sgt. Bob Berry.

43 posted on 12/21/2008 6:53:39 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: deport

You’re right, of course, about not knowing all the facts. While I could never even imagine pushing around an old man, God help anybody who decides to get between me and my son.


44 posted on 12/21/2008 6:55:26 AM PST by suthener
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To: BykrBayb

Thanks........ That maybe correct or as another article states citing a CPD Sgt it may have been multiple shots. As with many events the early reports often have misinformation in them, thus we don’t know the truth of what really happened until much later.


45 posted on 12/21/2008 7:00:59 AM PST by deport
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To: RGSpincich

Wow, you told the truth this time. Congratulations! However, I notice you overlook everything that doesn’t support your tinfoil theory. But you’re improving. There may even be hope for you.


46 posted on 12/21/2008 7:04:24 AM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

Like I said...


47 posted on 12/21/2008 7:05:34 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: deport

Yeah, it may have been multiple shots. I didn’t believe it until I saw the article, because the first person I saw making the claim has a history of making up “facts” to support his wild conspiracy theories. But he actually had a link to support his claim this time. Surprised me.


48 posted on 12/21/2008 7:09:26 AM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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To: suthener
did anyone notice that a man, in the process of a divorce, was killed for trying to see or take HIS OWN KIDS?

If you go to the store to buy bread, get in an argument over how much to pay or whatever, push the clerk, and you end up getting arrested, would you say you went to prison for a loaf of bread?
I think you would!

49 posted on 12/21/2008 7:11:40 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Problem id'd, opinion keyed in...now, what will you DO about it?)
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To: BykrBayb
because the first person I saw making the claim has a history of making up “facts” to support his wild conspiracy theories.

Back that up or STFU.

50 posted on 12/21/2008 7:14:05 AM PST by RGSpincich
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