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Predecessor of Cows, The Aurochs, Were Still Living In The Netherlands Around AD 600
ScienceDaily ^ | Monday, December 15, 2008 | University of Groningen

Posted on 12/21/2008 10:02:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv

Archaeological researchers at the University of Groningen have discovered that the aurochs, the predecessor of our present-day cow, lived in the Netherlands for longer than originally assumed. Remains of bones recently retrieved from a horn core found in Holwerd (Friesland, Netherlands), show that the aurochs became extinct in around AD 600 and not in the fourth century. The last aurochs died in Poland in 1627... The aurochs was much larger than the common cows we know today, with aurochs bulls measuring between 160 and 180 cm at the withers, and aurochs cows between 140 and 150 cm. The cattle bred on the Frisian mounds around AD 600 measured between 90 and 120 cm and their horn cores were 25 cm long at the most. Hunters and the first Dutch farmers hunted the aurochs. The species eventually became extinct in the Netherlands, not only because it was hunted, but also because more and more land was being used for agriculture and the human population was increasing. Aurochs bones dating back to Roman times have previously been found at various sites in the Dutch river regions. They have also been unearthed in the terps and mounds of Friesland and Groningen. An almost complete skeleton of an aurochs was found in a terp in Britsum (Friesland), 15 km from Holwerd. It dates back to between AD 257 and 421. It was long thought that this was the most recent evidence of the aurochs that would be found, and that the aurochs had therefore become extinct in the Netherlands sometime in the fourth century AD. However, the horn core from Holwerd shows that the aurochs must have been grazing the Frisian meadows for at least another 150 to 250 years.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; archaeological; archaeology; auroch; aurochs; bones; bosprimigenius; cattle; dietandcuisine; domestication; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; neolithic; netherlands; poland
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To: KamperKen

I just wanted to make sure everyone had herd that news. The lasso thing I’d want is for anyone to miss it.


41 posted on 12/21/2008 12:25:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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To: JimSEA

Aurochs is singular.


42 posted on 12/21/2008 12:34:48 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: SunkenCiv
"I just wanted to make sure everyone had herd that news. The lasso thing I’d want is for anyone to miss it."

It seems I've created, or rather, encouraged, a 'monster'. :)
43 posted on 12/21/2008 12:55:14 PM PST by KamperKen
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To: KamperKen

I prefer “rustler”.


44 posted on 12/21/2008 2:03:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Do we really say that a species went extinct in a certain place as small as the Netherlands when they’re still alive in other places not that far away?

I can understand saying that a species went extinct in the Old World, even though they were still surviving in the New, for example, or to say that they went extinct in South America even though some continued to exist in Australia... but to say they went “extinct” in the Netherlands when they still lived elsewhere in Europe... seems to me that’s using the word “extinct” pretty loosely.

When my cat dies, do we say cats have “gone extinct in my home”?

The word “extinct” means “no longer existing” and really, in my opinion, shouldn’t be used if there are any surviving members anywhere. True? Not true? If I’m wrong, I’m willing to learn the error of my ways. But as BOR says, “tell me where I’m wrong”.


45 posted on 12/21/2008 2:07:02 PM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman

Kinda harsh about your cat. ;’) I take your point, but didn’t write the article either. :’)


46 posted on 12/21/2008 2:26:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I know. I’m not arguing with you. I’m just sort of ranting on this subject. You were kind enough to make clear what the author was too inept to do. And I thanks you for that. Ignore my rant. I’ll get over it. :)


47 posted on 12/21/2008 2:30:09 PM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman

The author probably should have made it clear that the range of the auroch got reduced over those centuries, or that, at the very least, little evidence remains. I think one reason for that (besides the rarity of finding leftover parts of dead critters from long ago, except in the case of large death assemblages) in the case of the auroch, is that it was basically a kept animal for lots of generation, and during its last 1500-2000 years in Europe, probably wasn’t just wandering around wild, or at least, not for long. :’)


48 posted on 12/21/2008 2:40:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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To: MeanWestTexan
To paraphrase Jules, "That bull has one g-------- m----f----- personality." A toreador would come up to, what? Eyeball level?

No wonder we killed them off.

49 posted on 12/21/2008 2:46:57 PM PST by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: TruthWillWin
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50 posted on 12/21/2008 3:00:06 PM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: SunkenCiv

You seem quite well-versed in all this. Are you an archaeological researcher?


51 posted on 12/21/2008 3:14:32 PM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman

Grew up on a farm. ;’)


52 posted on 12/21/2008 3:33:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv
You gotta get a home in auroch, Don'tchya see, dontchya see? You gotta get a home in auroch, Don'tchya seeeeeee? What did you expect: Ewes Can't Rollerskate in an Aurochs Herd?
53 posted on 12/21/2008 11:37:00 PM PST by ApplegateRanch ( Too often ignored. Short Books are equally important parts of the Bible!)
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To: SunkenCiv
You gotta get a home in auroch,
Don'tchya see, dontchya see?
You gotta get a home in auroch,
Don'tchya seeeeeee?

What did you expect: Ewes Can't Rollerskate in an Aurochs Herd?

Grumble! Stick in a stinking tag, and lose all the other formatting...GRUMP!

54 posted on 12/21/2008 11:39:43 PM PST by ApplegateRanch ( Too often ignored. Short Books are equally important parts of the Bible!)
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To: JimSEA

A big bantang is nice but, all in all, I’d rather have a little poontang.


55 posted on 12/21/2008 11:49:14 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: MeanWestTexan
I have seen Chianina bulls (and even Ankina bulls) that were as tall as a bull moose....except for being polled, I don't know how these would be different from an Aurochs. They are just enormous.

I saw this bull at a livestock show in Louisville back in '80 or '81. I'm 5'11" tall, and this bull was as tall at the shoulder as I am. It was a big, big animal...


56 posted on 12/22/2008 5:47:34 AM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

They are big, but not spry — bred for meat.

If you look at an auroch (or African cattle or long horns) -— you see relatively long legs of an animal that is both big and fast.

Back-breeding is, IMHO, possible, but not with the euro-centric approach of the the Heck brothers (who were doing it for Nazi propaganda — big Aryan cattle).


57 posted on 12/22/2008 7:21:17 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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