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2 killed in shootings on Dallas, Garland roads
DMN ^ | 12-22-08 | SCOTT GOLDSTEIN and JASON TRAHAN

Posted on 12/22/2008 8:12:11 PM PST by Dysart

Two drivers were shot dead and third injured on roads in northeast Dallas and Garland during Monday’s evening rush hour.

Police were investigating four incidents Monday after the first shooting was reported about 5:40 p.m. in Garland on LBJ Freeway near Plano Road. Police are working to establish whether three of the shootings in Dallas are related to a Garland shooting that was the first reported fatality.

“For whatever reason, this person is upset with something or someone and he’s taking it out on innocent victims going down the road and that’s very scary,” said Dallas police Sgt. Gil Cerda.

The first victim was a man driving a small two-door car on Jupiter Road, police said. He stopped at a red light at Marquis Drive and an extended cab Ford F150 pickup pulled up alongside. A balding white man in his 40s fired several shots at the car’s driver, killing him, said Officer Joe Harn of the Garland police.

Police said the pickup fled south on Jupiter Road. Minutes later it was reported that a man began shooting at a semi with no trailer between Royal Lane and Skillman Street. No one was injured.

Police said a driver then shot at a 42-year-old man driving a United Van Lines 18-wheeler. The trucker was killed. His rig came to a stop in the middle lane of westbound LBJ just west of the Miller Road exit.

Police have not released the names of the men who were killed, but said the driver of the 18-wheeler was about to park his rig.

“The plan was he was going to fly home to be with his wife and kids,” said Lt. Craig Miller of the Dallas homicide unit.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


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Heads up, yall. Nutjob firing indiscrimately on LBJ. Heard another source (KDFW) describe the shooter as a white man in his 40's, balding, and driving a Tan Ford F-150.
1 posted on 12/22/2008 8:12:12 PM PST by Dysart
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To: Dysart

Ron Emannuel?


2 posted on 12/22/2008 8:12:59 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: Dysart

Oh man, prayers for the families of those killed. I hope they catch the perp soon.


3 posted on 12/22/2008 8:14:17 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: Dysart

I’ll be sure to be a little more alert tomorrow morning.


4 posted on 12/22/2008 8:15:39 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: brytlea
I'd say so. And here's one account of the suspect FWIW.
5 posted on 12/22/2008 8:17:29 PM PST by Dysart (Don't forget your change, America)
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To: Dysart

Thank you. I just emailed the article to my son, who lives in Plano. Geeze, it’s a crazy world out there.


6 posted on 12/22/2008 8:21:23 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: Dysart

I hate to go into conspiracy theory land but our we going to see more incidents like these? This may be the plan to get the support to push sweeping “common sense” gun control laws.


7 posted on 12/22/2008 8:22:44 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Dysart

The LBJ freeway?


8 posted on 12/22/2008 8:23:14 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Dysart

Yeah, sure, we’ve heard the “white guy in a white van” BS before and it turned out to be two black guys and one was an illegal aline.


9 posted on 12/22/2008 8:23:52 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: dragnet2

Si.


10 posted on 12/22/2008 8:24:25 PM PST by Dysart (Don't forget your change, America)
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To: CodeToad

Yeah, except that there’s every chance that this got caught on the highway cameras, given where on 635/LBJ this happened.


11 posted on 12/22/2008 8:28:04 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: randomhero97

“I hate to go into conspiracy theory land but our we going to see more incidents like these? This may be the plan to get the support to push sweeping “common sense” gun control laws.”

The wicked will do just about anything to destroy freedom, liberty and the rule of law. Denial of criminal conspiracy is frank denial of reality.


12 posted on 12/22/2008 8:28:24 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: randomhero97
This may be the plan to get the support to push sweeping “common sense” gun control laws.

Well I guess you are slightly more rational than this perp.

13 posted on 12/22/2008 8:29:34 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Just because I am an Oogedy-Boogedy kind of guy!)
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To: Spktyr

If they show the video I’ll believe it, but until then, it is unknown suspects.


14 posted on 12/22/2008 8:29:39 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: randomhero97

Anywhere else but Texas, that might be so.

In Texas, we just trade out our normal car or carry pistols for something a bit heavier, if applicable.

I know I’m switching the loads in my .45ACP pistol from JHP to ball until this nutcase is caught, shot or quits.


15 posted on 12/22/2008 8:30:02 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: dragnet2

I-635 around the east-north-west of Dallas, TX.


16 posted on 12/22/2008 8:30:58 PM PST by 1066AD
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Yeah, you’re right no point taking in too much paranoia. This guy probably just has “Falling Down” syndrome.


17 posted on 12/22/2008 8:32:50 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97

I lived in that area for many years. I can’t say I’m surprised as fighting the traffic in that area would drive anyone to the brink of insanity.

I believe this type of incident can happen anywhere so its not a foreshadowing event IMO.


18 posted on 12/22/2008 8:34:49 PM PST by Doug TX
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To: Doug TX
I believe this type of incident can happen anywhere so its not a foreshadowing event IMO.

A down employment market, large consumer debt, family troubles.... I could see an rapid uptick in violent crime.

19 posted on 12/22/2008 8:42:10 PM PST by MovementConservative (Merry Christmas.)
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To: CodeToad

WFAA is reporting that there was a *fourth* shooting at LBJ and Forest Lane, minor injuries only. It appears there are survivors and witnesses.

Reminder for all Texans: HB 1815 made it legal to carry a pistol in your car, even without a permit, as long as the gun is not in plain view and you are not engaged in a crime (other than a traffic / Class C offense), prohibited from owning a gun at all, or a member of a street gang.


20 posted on 12/22/2008 8:42:20 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Dysart

RIP.


21 posted on 12/22/2008 8:56:42 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Dysart; Fiddlstix; PhilDragoo; Liz; onyx; potlatch; devolve; MEG33; Grampa Dave; Lady Jag; ...

Wow! I heard about this earlier on the radio today.
All places where I drive every day! :^O


22 posted on 12/22/2008 10:02:00 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Obama, WHO is Bill Ayers and WHY are you still friends with him? Please RSVP asap!)
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To: y'all


23 posted on 12/22/2008 10:05:02 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Obama, WHO is Bill Ayers and WHY are you still friends with him? Please RSVP asap!)
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To: Dysart

Didn’t they catch that shooter that was working the Garland - Richardson - Plano area last summer? Wonder if he’s out on bail? I think he turned out to be Asian.


24 posted on 12/22/2008 10:07:36 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Spktyr

“until this nutcase is caught, shot or quits.”

They never quit. Criminals of this type do not tend to quit, just take a break, then back to it often with better tactics.


25 posted on 12/22/2008 10:43:55 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: Dysart

I live in Garland and travel 635 every day to N. Dallas. The first shooting happened just a block or so from Targetmasters where we go to the range.
I’m working from home tomorrow.


26 posted on 12/22/2008 10:46:13 PM PST by babyfreep
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To: JSteff

In Texas, especially this close to East Texas’ Piney Woods, quite often criminals “quit” in the sense that someone gets to them first and disposes of the body.


27 posted on 12/22/2008 10:53:30 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: PAR35

No, he’s still in jail. Thai-An Huu Nguyen confessed to the crime spree and won’t be getting out any time soon. After which, he will be deported back to Vietnam (he was a legal resident here.)

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/070308dnmetshootings.162c4b1e.html


28 posted on 12/22/2008 10:57:46 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Dysart
Perps?


29 posted on 12/22/2008 10:58:51 PM PST by anymouse
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To: MeekOneGOP

Stay safe, Meek.


30 posted on 12/22/2008 11:09:33 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: babyfreep

It was at the corner of jupiter and marquis.

Targetmaster is at jupiter and security


31 posted on 12/22/2008 11:42:28 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Spktyr
Reminder for all Texans: HB 1815 made it legal to carry a pistol in your car, even without a permit, as long as the gun is not in plain view and you are not engaged in a crime (other than a traffic / Class C offense), prohibited from owning a gun at all, or a member of a street gang.

Yep, the only thing is, our County Attorney advised LEOs to continue enforcing the OLD law, the impossible one that had been on the books, what, 100 yrs? Then there was the DA in Harris county that ordered his staff the same and several others across the state.

I think the Harris Cty DA was caught with porn on his computer so he's history, not sure about all the Ass't DAs running around though "in charge". Otherwise, you are absolutely right, now for a pocket full of money to fight the corrupt CAs and DAs and occasional brain-dead juries that nod their heads in support of these tyrants... Reference: Above the Law, Texas State Rifle Assoc. (http://tsra.com/docs/AboveTheLaw.pdf )

32 posted on 12/23/2008 4:21:19 AM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: brushcop

{shrug} They just want to get hit with a giant judgement again, like when they tried to ban gun shows.

On the other hand, the Dallas County DA (where these incidents happened) honestly doesn’t ever seem to care. In fact, even before HB 1815 passed, the Dallas DA was known to interpret the old “travelling” statute very loosely if a non-permit carrier had had to resort to a pistol carried in the car.

In one incident, the Dallas DA declined to even bother putting the case before the grand jury for a no-bill and returned the shooter’s gun with a CCW permit application packet attached.


33 posted on 12/23/2008 4:27:34 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: PAR35

Yes. They got that guy at a McDonald’s in Garland. I doubt he’s on the streets again, tho.


34 posted on 12/23/2008 5:12:04 AM PST by Dysart (Don't forget your change, America)
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To: Dysart; Bender2

Deadskin fans talking smack I am guessing.


35 posted on 12/23/2008 5:16:00 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (Gen. George S. Patton to Michael Moore... American Carol: "I really like slapping you.")
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To: Dysart
A balding white man in his 40s fired several shots

More circumstantial evidence that when skin color is NOT mentioned in the news report it is that of a minority.

36 posted on 12/23/2008 7:22:03 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction;, one of the five top worries of the American farmer.)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Believe it or not, I was at that Jupiter/LBJ intersection... last Saturday.

Of course... I'd have returned fire!

37 posted on 12/23/2008 8:09:41 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: randomhero97

Crap like this happens a lot. When the MSM gears up to support “common sense gun control,” you’re gonna see all of the stories you used to have to look for front and center on the TODAY Show, to create the impression that there is a sudden epidemic of “gun violence,” which can only be thwarted by the intervention of His Holiness, Obama, and his minions in Congress.


38 posted on 12/23/2008 9:14:44 AM PST by gundog (When the SHTF, it will not be evenly distributed.)
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To: Bender2

Say, Bender, do you happen to drive a Tan Ford F150 by chance?


39 posted on 12/23/2008 9:17:18 AM PST by Dysart (Don't forget your change, America)
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To: mylife

OK, well, it was about 5 or 6 blocks away then. Close, anyway.
I live in S. Garland, but do alot of business in that part of town.


40 posted on 12/23/2008 9:43:40 AM PST by babyfreep
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To: babyfreep

I used to work at the end of raytheon at jupiter and marquis


41 posted on 12/23/2008 9:48:18 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Dysart
“balding white man in his 40s“

Ex-squeeze me? Isn't that Racial and Hair profiling?

Never mind – Look people we have to do something RIGHT NOW to stop this from happening in the future. These things are killing thousands of people every year and it has to stop

As the great Socialist genius Rahm Emanuel, Stated only recently:

"you never want a serious crisis to go to waste”

We need common sense Truck control and we need to ban Assault vehicles like the Ford F-150

Especially Tan Ford F-150 – they just look too 'Scary'

/Sarc

42 posted on 12/23/2008 10:53:27 AM PST by SJRebel (The listing ..of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny... others retained by the people(9))
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To: MeekOneGOP; y'all
Interesting update. Can we stop looking for the balding-tan F150 pickup-driving-40ish-white-guy now?

Bullets may link suicide attempt to LBJ Freeway, Garland shootings

43 posted on 12/23/2008 11:29:42 AM PST by Dysart (Don't forget your change, America)
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To: Dysart
BREAKING NEWS Dallas police said they have connected a former Utah state trooper to the shooting rampage that killed two and injured one Monday evening. Preliminary results from ballistic testing on bullets from the rampage linked Brian Smith. More details to come.
44 posted on 12/23/2008 3:58:01 PM PST by Dysart (Don't forget your change, America)
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To: MeekOneGOP

[All places where I drive every day!]
That is frightening Meek. I’m sure you’ll be nervous driving there now.


45 posted on 12/23/2008 5:47:23 PM PST by potlatch
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To: ntnychik

Yes’m, thanks! :)

Looks like it was an ex-Utah cop that did this.

Ex-trooper in road shootings struggled with addiction, Utah officials say
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/122408dnmetshootingsider.3ec1d28.html


46 posted on 12/23/2008 10:15:26 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Obama, WHO is Bill Ayers and WHY are you still friends with him? Please RSVP asap!)
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To: potlatch

** That is frightening Meek. I’m sure you’ll be
nervous driving there now. **

- - - - - - - - - -

Not at all.

I drive carefully and do my very best to ignore
those road-rage fools I see all the time. :)

Just a good reminder why it’s good to do so!


47 posted on 12/23/2008 10:19:53 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Obama, WHO is Bill Ayers and WHY are you still friends with him? Please RSVP asap!)
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To: Dysart

** Interesting update. Can we stop looking for
the balding-tan F150 pickup-driving-40ish-white-guy now? **

Yeah, it appears so.

Here is the latest from the Dallas Mourning Spews:

Ex-trooper in road shootings struggled with addiction, Utah officials say
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/122408dnmetshootingsider.3ec1d28.html


48 posted on 12/23/2008 10:36:14 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Obama, WHO is Bill Ayers and WHY are you still friends with him? Please RSVP asap!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks for the update. Glad you don’t have to worry about it anymore. And I’m so sorry for the victims and their families.


49 posted on 12/23/2008 11:08:25 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: MeekOneGOP

Wow. That’s tragic tale. The guy just lost his mind and needlessly took out innocent people in his own death spiral.


50 posted on 12/24/2008 6:11:22 AM PST by Dysart (Don't forget your change, America)
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