Posted on 12/27/2008 7:04:54 AM PST by Free America52
For the BHO II Hawaiian Aug 4 1961 COLB to be accurate the following improbable events needed to occur:
The events are actually quite probable and consistent with what B. Hussein Obama's has made known.
1 month after starting classes, Stanley Ann Dunham, Barack’s mom, at age 17, got pregnant by the only black African man on the entire chain of Hawaiian islands.
Lots of college girls get pregnant as freshmen. We know she had a leftist outlook, so it's not all that improbable that she would be attracted to a dashing young African classmate.
2 months after getting pregnant, she drops out of college.
Yes, it's soooo improbable that a college girl drops out of school after getting pregnant. /sarcasm
3 months after getting pregnant, she marries BHO Sr.
Yes, it's so improbable that a girl marry the father of her child.
10 months after her first day at the U of HI, she delivers BHO II and immediately leaves her parents, her new husband, and her home, to fly alone with a newborn 2800 miles to Seattle to start college at the U of W.
First of all, this isn't new. It's already been reported in the MSM that she briefly moved to Seattle. She had friends and relative in Seattle.
Second of all, I don't see why you find it so improbable. She dropped out of college after she got preganant and married a guy she barely new. Happens all the time. Then, suprise suprise, five months after her wedding, she finds she's not getting along with him very well and she wants to get away from him. She's already estranged from her parents (who were against the wedding), so she runs away to her friends in Seattle.
But you know, the theory that she flew to Kenya, just to give birth, and then flew to Seattle is sooo much more plausible./sarcasm
GET REAL.Ray Charles would agree with me this guys a minus 10.
If anybody belives this crap I have some ocean front property in Oklahoma for sale.
It's in my report.
Ann enrolled in what was called extension courses at the time, but there is absolutely no proof that she returned to HI after doing so. By spring of 1962 she attended classes at UW, and she was still in WA in September of 1962 when she was visited by yet another high school classmate. The only baby photo of Jr was released after the death of Madelyn Dunham and it was a picture of a 6 to 8 month old. It was a professional photo with only Jr in the photo. I believe you will find that Ann registered for extension courses and remained in WA state until early 1963 when she returned to HI to live in an apartment 110 1427 Alexander St. which had been rented for her by her parents. Aside from the aforementioned photo note the lack of any other infant or baby photos until after Ann returned to HI and we see the photo of Jr sitting on the fence as well as one in which he is wearing training pants. IMO if a Seattle Freeper were to go to a local library and peruse a 1961-62 Polk’s Seattle city directory they will discover Ann listed in it. This would be confirmed if someone were to approach her high school classmate, John Hunter, who was a frequent visitor to her rooms at Laurelhurst housing and the apartment on Capital Hill. When Ann originally arrived back in WA state she stayed at the home of one of her mother’s friends. Two weeks after her visit with Susan Blake, Maxine Box visited her at the woman’s home. No one has asked her high school classmates the appropriate questions!
Anything is possible.
Grandma’s co-workers at Bankoh didn’t even know she was a grandmother until after Jr returned to HI to attend Punahou. By the end of 1962 Grandma was named as head of the mortgage dept at Bankoh but before then she was literally the mortgage dept. She was initially hired because she was the only one who knew about escrow and because she was from Peru KS, the same place as the then President of Bankoh.
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Please note that the link to the timeline in your post does have some dates wrong. I tried to contact the owner to advise him but was unable to do so.
Obama Sr didn’t abandon Ann it was the other way around. She lied to her friends about going to Boston with him, but she didn’t lie about the fact that she planned to get a job, go to school and take care of the baby. The media simply read his fairytale and wrote the appropriate articles failing to do any valid research. One example of this is saying that Obama Sr left HI in 1963 because they used Jr’s words that his father left when Jr was 2. In actual fact Obama Sr left HI June 22,1962 before Jr was even a year old, but Jr and his mother were in WA state then!
Please note that the Dunhams did NOT have any family in WA state! When Ann arrived in WA she stayed with a friend of her mother before she moved into the Laurelhurst student housing and then into a small apartment on Capital Hill.
I think your analysis is good - excellent, in fact. Puts it into the perspective one needs to realize the entire thing is a madeup fairy tale, Brothers Grimm style.
All liars are caught out eventually. It’s much harder to remember a madeup story than the truth, for one thing. And in his case, a whole bunch of people have to remember the madeup story.
The downside is he has a whole team hiding, erasing and falsifying records.
He’ll get caught, the sooner the better. Whether any gov entities have the juice to do anything about him once he’s really caught, is another thing.
She is the lawyer representing Alan Keyes’ in his SCOTUS lawsuit. Just in case no one answered that one yet.
Jr isn’t the only one who doesn’t mention Ann’s stay in WA state. The presstitutes in HI and elsewhere (besides the short article Jonathon Martin wrote for the Seattle Times) totally ignored that period of time as well. It wouldn’t do to actually confirm their idol didn’t spend his younger years in HI and wasn’t actually on the island until early 1963. Makes one wonder how Jr could have the arrogance and audacity to ask why David Mendell should have to interview him when all he needs to know about Jr is in Jr’s own book.
CE - is this for sure true? That she returned to HI after enrolling in long distance classes? Why would she have done that, when the UofHI was right nearby? And verification of where she lived in HI, I don’t recall reading anything.
Anyway, if this is all answered downthread, please ignore this!
No she didn’t return to HI until early 1963 to live in apt 110 1427 Alexander St which had been rented for her by her parents. She remained in WA state once she enrolled in extension courses at UW in August of 1961. Remember there is only one single picture which has been released of Jr when he could be classified as a baby(released after Madelyn’s death) and I guesstimate he was between 6 and 8 months old then. The photo is a professional one in which no one else appeared and I believe it was taken as an anniversary present Ann could send her parents for their anniversary May 4th or 5th. We don’t see multiple photos of Jr until he is a toddler and he and his mother are back in HI.
Which is perfectly consistent with her wanting to get away from her new husband after she realized she made a big mistake. She came to Seattle because she had a connection here. The timeline fits pretty well with what is already known about Obama's early years.
Is it more plausible that an 18 year old pregnant girl would have flown to Kenya and back between February and of August 1961?
I can tell you haven't had much interaction with 18-year-old college freshmen, especially the idealistic hippie types.
I need to make a New Year’s resolution to read to the end of the thread before asking questions that are already answered!!
Kevmo and MHGinTN - good info on this thread just in case you haven’t seen it all.
(curiosity trying to muddy the waters again)
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