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Phoenix officer forbids neighbor to get cat, PD come to help
abc15.com Phoenix ^ | 12_30_08 | Christina Booker

Posted on 12/30/2008 9:57:06 AM PST by Fawn

PHOENIX, AZ -- Brutis the cat is back home with his owner after going through a bit of a pickle. He had been stuck in a neighbor's tree for nine days, according to the owner.

And the cat's owner says a police officer may have been partly to blame.

The cat got away from his owner, Michael, last Sunday at a home near 12th Street and Bell Road. When Michael finally tracked Brutis down, he was stuck in the branches, two stories in the air, on his neighbor's property.

The neighbor is a Phoenix police officer.

Michael had tried to get the cat out with no luck. Animal Control told him they don't handle cats due to limited resources.

On Christmas morning, the Humane Society tried to rescue Brutis but said its ladders were not tall enough to reach him.

They also suggested Michael leave food and water at the base of the tree, something Michael said he couldn't do because his police officer neighbor would not let him back on the property.

"He said he wouldn't let us go back there and try and rescue the cat," Michael said.

Michael said the officer told him he was concerned that if someone got hurt while trying to get the cat on his property, he would be liable.

"He said no because of insurance," explained Michael.

A Phoenix Police spokesperson said the officer did what he could to help the cat.

Sgt. Tommy Thompson said the officer followed the direction of the Humane Society, taking his dog inside for a day, hoping the cat would come down on it's own.

He said the Humane Society called the officer an "angel" who did all he could.

The Humane Society also told the officer they could not rescue the cat safely, according to Thompson.

However, another non-profit said on Monday they made an attempt to get Brutis out of the tree.

Toni Smith and Terry Toman are with Citizens for North Phoenix Strays.

"There's some friction here between these neighbors and I said I could care less about the people I just want to go up and get the cat," said Smith.

Smith and Toman said they chose to go behind the home on a public sidewalk and lean a 25-foot ladder against his back wall.

In this way, they figured they were not on his property.

Just as they were about to get the cat, Smith said, "This guy comes barreling out of his house, flashed his gun and his badge, and started screaming and freaking out."

Toman added, "It's a little overkill".

ABC15 tried to speak with the officer to get his side of the story, but he said to call police.

The Phoenix Police Department said their officer had a right to defend his property.

They added that there was no way the officer could have known whether Smith and Toman were intruders or not.

“It seems like I just have to sit here and watch my cat starve to death or freeze to death,” Michael said.

Both Smith and Toman said they were willing to sign a waiver guaranteeing they would not sue the officer or hold him liable if they should hurt themselves while rescuing Brutis.

“It’s just a cat in a tree, why can’t we just go there and get the cat and move on,” Smith said.

Late Tuesday morning, Michael said police officers arrived at the home and rescued the cat using a ladder. It's unclear who's property they did it from.

Sgt. Thompson said Phoenix Police don't normally rescue cats from trees, but said calls to the Police Chief's office prompted the move to get the cat down.

Brutis is now safe and doing well -- and out of the tree.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: jbt; jbts; jerk; police; rotten; unhumane
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1 posted on 12/30/2008 9:57:09 AM PST by Fawn
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To: Slings and Arrows

Ping


2 posted on 12/30/2008 9:57:36 AM PST by Fawn (I want my bailout too!!!!)
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To: Fawn

‘“It seems like I just have to sit here and watch my cat starve to death or freeze to death,” Michael said.”

I’m guessing it will come down long before that. Cats are fairly smart.


3 posted on 12/30/2008 9:58:02 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Fawn

Ooh I would have to get that guy on animal cruelty for not allowing help


4 posted on 12/30/2008 9:58:35 AM PST by mel (Obama- show me the BC)
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To: Fawn
"There's some friction here between these neighbors and I said I could care less about the people I just want to go up and get the cat," said Smith.

Probably because the other neighbor lets his cat run loose in the officer's yard.

5 posted on 12/30/2008 9:59:44 AM PST by Constitution Day (Big Brotha Is Watching You)
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To: Fawn

“...hoping the cat would come down on it’s own.”

AAARRRRGGGHHHHHH! Can’t anyone use (or NOT use) an apostrophe properly?


6 posted on 12/30/2008 10:04:58 AM PST by Buck W. (BHO: Selling hope, keeping the change.)
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To: Fawn

One of the best lines I have ever heard regarding cats stuck in trees came from the Chief of the LA Fire Deptment when he announced that they would no longer rescue cats from trees.

He said in all my years of being a fireman I have yet to see a cat skeleton in a tree. They come down when they get hungry enough.


7 posted on 12/30/2008 10:10:56 AM PST by JBR34
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To: Buck W.

“Can’t anyone use (or NOT use) an apostrophe properly?”

About 20% of the time, apparently.


8 posted on 12/30/2008 10:11:04 AM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: Fawn

what happened to firemen rescuing cats?
a bucket truck from the street should reach with no problem.


9 posted on 12/30/2008 10:12:10 AM PST by absolootezer0 (happy festi-christma-chauna-kwanza-don-stice-ule.. eh screw pc. MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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To: Buck W.
Also from the article:

It's unclear who's property they did it from.

Should be 'whose'.

10 posted on 12/30/2008 10:14:57 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: driftdiver

My brother climbed a tree to get a cat once and ended up scratched all to heck. He went to the doctor and the doctor asked him what had happened. My brother told him about rescueing the cat and the doctor said, “Have you ever seen any cat skeletons in trees?”


11 posted on 12/30/2008 10:15:24 AM PST by Terry Mross (Is this our last REAL Christmas?)
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To: Fawn; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; republicangel; Bahbah; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; etabeta; ...

12 posted on 12/30/2008 10:15:49 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Every few generations the really, really bad ideas come back around for another go."--Howard Tayler)
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To: absolootezer0
a bucket truck from the street should reach with no problem.

You do now what happens when a bucket truck comes near them ?

13 posted on 12/30/2008 10:18:03 AM PST by grjr21
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To: driftdiver

I don’t know....it was up there 9 days?!


14 posted on 12/30/2008 10:19:41 AM PST by Fawn (I want my bailout too!!!!)
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To: Fawn

Hi Fawn,

Happy New Year, afternoon radio sucks without Rush. I’m so bored at work!


15 posted on 12/30/2008 10:21:43 AM PST by angcat ("When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe".)
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To: Buck W.
AAARRRRGGGHHHHHH! Can’t anyone use (or NOT use) an apostrophe properly?

Mom...is that you?

16 posted on 12/30/2008 10:22:04 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Constitution Day

Two words: pellet gun. I really like house cats, but neighbors who let their cats run wild don’t get much sympathy from me any more. I keep hoping the big hoot owl I see on my fence early in the mornings would get a couple of the various cats running loose in the neighborhood, but no such luck so far.


17 posted on 12/30/2008 10:22:45 AM PST by GBA
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To: savedbygrace

I missed that one! It’s the misuse of “it’s” that really gets on my nerves, though, especially by professional journalists and their editors.


18 posted on 12/30/2008 10:23:16 AM PST by Buck W. (BHO: Selling hope, keeping the change.)
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To: grjr21

looks like it came down just fine :)


19 posted on 12/30/2008 10:23:23 AM PST by absolootezer0 (happy festi-christma-chauna-kwanza-don-stice-ule.. eh screw pc. MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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To: GBA
but neighbors who let their cats run wild don’t get much sympathy from me any more

How do cats run wild? What exactly defines running wild?

20 posted on 12/30/2008 10:24:15 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: JBR34
I've heard they found dead cats in trees....by the time it's a skeleton, it's on the ground...

Blog editor's note #2: While cats usually do come down, if the cat has been up there for days, it's already quite hungry and it's not likely to find its way down without help.

> Cats are prone to hepatic lipidosis (fatty liver disease) when they don't eat for several days. Lacking food, the cat's body starts sending fat cells to the liver to process into lipoproteins for fuel. Cats' livers are not terribly efficient at processing fat, and much of the fat is stored in the liver cells. Left untreated, eventually the liver fails and the cat dies.

> In cases where cats have starved to death before figuring out how to come down, there wouldn't be skeletons in trees, because when the cat dies, it's no longer able to hold onto the tree.

21 posted on 12/30/2008 10:24:31 AM PST by Fawn (I want my bailout too!!!!)
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To: Fawn

“Michael said the officer told him he was concerned that if someone got hurt while trying to get the cat on his property, he would be liable.”

The officer was 100% correct. Any private individual, organization or group that got hurt on his property could sue him for everything he’s got if they fall out of the tree and break their necks.

And you know that’s exactly what their lawyer would do no matter how “nice” they seemed up front.

Let the guv handle it, they can’t sue you for performing a public function on your proprty.


22 posted on 12/30/2008 10:24:44 AM PST by Bob J
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To: angcat

Happy New Year to you too....I’m not bored at work but I do miss Rushbo.....Hope all is well....


23 posted on 12/30/2008 10:25:20 AM PST by Fawn (I want my bailout too!!!!)
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To: GBA

I just use Havahart traps.


24 posted on 12/30/2008 10:26:21 AM PST by Constitution Day (Big Brotha Is Watching You)
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To: Puppage
If you let your animal out and it freely roams beyond your property, then, to me, it's running wild.
25 posted on 12/30/2008 10:26:39 AM PST by GBA
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To: Bob J

Why didn’t the cop try to get the cat himself instead of acting like a crazy man flashing a gun. I believe that’s against the law....even for a maniac cop.


26 posted on 12/30/2008 10:26:51 AM PST by Fawn (I want my bailout too!!!!)
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To: Constitution Day

They work good for ‘possums, too.


27 posted on 12/30/2008 10:28:05 AM PST by GBA
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To: Fawn
People who let their cats roam the neighborhood apparently want to have it both ways. First they want the cat to be considered a wild animal, which by law allows them to let it roam without them suffering any legal trouble for whatever damage the cat does. Then they want the cat to be considered their tame pet when it gets into trouble while roaming.

I say if it's roaming, it's a wild animal and it's subject to being shot on sight. If it's a pet, keep it indoors or contained on your own property. One or the other.

DOGZ RULE

<FLAME RESISTANT SUIT ON>

Semi-Official Semi-Legal Notice: This is only a test. Had this been an actual anti-cat post, there would have been far more violence. And cow bell. And dog poop.

28 posted on 12/30/2008 10:28:06 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: GBA

The cat ‘got away’ from the owner....didn’t you read the article? That happens ya know...a cat will escape ....I have an escape artist at home too....try to keep my eye on her but she also has plans.


29 posted on 12/30/2008 10:28:26 AM PST by Fawn (I want my bailout too!!!!)
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To: Fawn

I have some sympathy for both parties. While I don’t hate cats, I do hate a lot of cat owners. My neighbor, for example, has a cat that eats fish from my pond, craps in my flower beds and steals dog food and then phones the police when my dogs bark at it. If my neighbors cat was stuck in one of my trees I would do the same thing.


30 posted on 12/30/2008 10:29:01 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Fawn

I’m reminded of the original “Police Academy” movie, where the lady alerts the cop that her cat is stuck in a tree, and the cop promptly pulls his service revolver and BLAM!...the cat is out of the tree!


31 posted on 12/30/2008 10:29:05 AM PST by Ikemeister
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To: Buck W.

Looks like an editor has been playing with the article since it was posted here. Some corrections have been made.


32 posted on 12/30/2008 10:29:26 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: JBR34; Terry Mross; Fawn

Yes, they come down eventually, but often get seriously or fatally injured in the process. They are capable of getting up (usually being chased up) into places they can’t get down from safely, because their claws allow them to climb vertical tree trunks, but not to stabilize themselves on the way back down the same trunk. By the time they’ve waited a few days, they’re weak from hunger and dehydration (and in some cases, may already be irreversibly on the way to the often deadly hepatic lipidosis), possibly with frostbitten paws in winter, and are very poorly equipped to brace themselves in a hard landing. A cat that breaks its spine or pelvis when falling out of a tree doesn’t end up as a “cat skeleton in a tree”, but ends up dead anyway (hopefully having been found quickly and taken to a vet for euthanasia, but depending on the location, it may die slowly and in pain without being found).


33 posted on 12/30/2008 10:29:43 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: savedbygrace
I say if it's roaming, it's a wild animal and it's subject to being shot on sight

Thank you for that bit of information. So, I can shoot birds, neighbors dogs running loose down the road, possum, snakes, neighbors kids crossing my yard and it's all legal huh? Good.

34 posted on 12/30/2008 10:31:22 AM PST by Fawn (I want my bailout too!!!!)
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To: Buck W.

Of course’as long a’s they follow this rule:

Every word ending in “S” with a consonant before it requires an apostrophe. If the word is a subjugated compo’nd, superlative with a comma no apostrophe is required unless’ it add’s clarity to a question’. In case’s of hyper’bolic refracting conflagration’s the apostrophe may substitu’e for any letter of ‘th alpha’’’’’’. (20)!


35 posted on 12/30/2008 10:31:35 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GBA
If you let your animal out and it freely roams beyond your property, then, to me, it's running wild.

How does that effect you negatively? Cats pretty much keep to themselves and are pretty quiet for the most part.

36 posted on 12/30/2008 10:31:54 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: GBA

Yep, I’ve caught them before, and a raccoon or two.


37 posted on 12/30/2008 10:34:05 AM PST by Constitution Day (Big Brotha Is Watching You)
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To: savedbygrace

Cats hate you, too. Nanny nanny neener neener.


38 posted on 12/30/2008 10:35:40 AM PST by LiberConservative ("I, you know, can see, you know, upstate, you know, from my house, you know.")
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To: Fawn

I read the article and am familiar with that part of town. I bought my dog from a lady who lived a couple blocks from there. I had house cats and know they can get loose, but I don’t know the history with that particular animal, whether or not the owner lets it out at night or keeps it under lock and key.


39 posted on 12/30/2008 10:35:46 AM PST by GBA
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To: Puppage

running wild is not being on a leash.....


40 posted on 12/30/2008 10:37:18 AM PST by joe fonebone (The libtard votes in every election, regardless of the candidate.)
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To: Fawn

Sheesh, what a waste of time. Cats may ‘seem’ stuck in a tree but believe me, when they get hungry they’ll come down.

And no single dog will stop them. Well, successfully stop them if the cat is in good shape and not getting too old.

JB


41 posted on 12/30/2008 10:40:28 AM PST by thatjoeguy (Just my thoughts)
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To: Fawn
So, I can shoot ... neighbors dogs running loose down the road, ...

In some jurisdictions, yes, you can shoot loose dogs.

Why should cats be exempt?

42 posted on 12/30/2008 10:40:44 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Puppage

They eat the birds and lizards in my yard and use my garden and flower beds for their toilet. They howl at the neighbor’s indoor cat when it’s in their screened in porch. The one neighbor lets her little darling run loose and, of course, it somehow got pregnant and now there are four little darlings. The neighbors on both sides of me are ready to shoot them and put them in the trash. Word of advice? Keep your animals under your control in your yard. Your neighbors will appreciate you for being responsible and you will have happier and healthier pets.


43 posted on 12/30/2008 10:42:56 AM PST by GBA
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To: GBA
The neighbors on both sides of me are ready to shoot them and put them in the trash

What lovely people

44 posted on 12/30/2008 10:48:55 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Fawn

better a dead cat than a dead person. If the cat wants to come down it will. Most likely the cat would run away from anyone going up after it. Most likely its still up there because all these strange people have been trying to get it.


45 posted on 12/30/2008 10:48:59 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Fawn
I had a cat that did just that...twice. For no apparent reason she launched herself up a 60-foot tall Tulip Poplar and couldn't get down. All the recommended solutions failed. BB guns, loud noises, food placed nearby. She just climbed higher. After six days I located a professional tree climber (arboriculturist) who managed to climb up, throw the cat into a sack and lower her down. He was nearly killed in the process. The cat refused rescue and fought him like nothing I've ever seen before! He barely descended with his arms and hands looking like he'd placed them in wood chipper. The cat was carefully removed from the sack...and it shot back up the tree again! Anybody who thinks they can “rescue” a kitty in a tree obviously hasn't attempted it before. I wouldn't recommend it.
46 posted on 12/30/2008 10:49:49 AM PST by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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To: Natural Law
“My neighbor, for example, has a cat that eats fish from my pond, craps in my flower beds and steals dog food and then phones the police when my dogs bark at it.”

That's one smart cat. Does he run home to use the phone or does it carry its own cellphone :)

47 posted on 12/30/2008 10:50:05 AM PST by Polynikes (Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?)
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To: Fawn

OMG! You, like, totally, totally got it. You totally understood the exact and complete meaning of what I was saying.

NOT!

Let’s examine your made-up list:

1) Birds - According to law, variable by State, some birds, yes, as long as you don’t violate any safety laws

2) Neighbors’ dogs running loose - Unless one is charging or attacking you, no, because neighbors’ dogs are not legally considered to be wild animals

3) Possum - Yes, again it varies by State, and you must not violate any safety laws

4) Snakes - Yes, same as possum in most States

5) Neighbors’ kids - This one might be your first clue that you failed to understand the point, and missed the humor attached to it. But just to be clear, are these neighbors’ kids making a lot of noise and stomping my flowers? I mean, I don’t want to make a snap judgment until I have all the relevant facts.


48 posted on 12/30/2008 10:50:53 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Fawn

One modification: There are some varieties of snakes that are protected, so you can’t shoot those.

When are you planning to go hunting and what’s your weapon of choice?


49 posted on 12/30/2008 10:53:47 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Fawn
The cop is a jerk. Common sense and decency no longer exist with some people. I would hate to be this guys neighbor.
50 posted on 12/30/2008 10:53:53 AM PST by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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