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THE TEN MANLIEST FIREARMS
arthurshall.com ^ | January 1, 2009 | Michael Z. Williamson

Posted on 01/01/2009 10:23:36 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY

This was a hard piece to write, because guns by definition are manly, except for Berettas, gold-plated TEC9s, .25 caliber pistols or anything made by the French. To simplify things, I have limited it to modern cartridge firearms a man might, can, and should collect and shoot. There are certainly other manly weapons, and you may have a different list. As long as the list contains nothing French, gold-plated, .25 or with pearl grips (which Patton correctly observed are the mark of a New Orleans pimp), it is a good list.

#10: SMLE The 10 SMLE was the other great weapon of the Modern British Empire (The Brown Bess musket being the first). Several MILLION Short Model Lee-Enfields in .303 caliber are still spread across the Earth, waiting to be used to evolve the species by killing the weak.

The Smelly, as it is called by those who love it, can be rebarreled in .308 (And was, by the Indians at the Ishapore Arsenal). There are still several billion rounds of .303 surplus out there, however, and it is still loaded by modern manufacturers. Karamojo Bell was such a testosterone laden bastard he used to hunt ELEPHANT with one. Forget .470 Nitro Express and .375 Holland & Holland Magnum. This was a warrior par excellence.

The Smelly is still the fastest bolt action out there, and a trained soldier (All Brits have Viking blood in their veins, either from the Norse, or those lesser Danes, but probably both) can fire just about a round a second in volley fire, and easily a round every five seconds aimed. It's an ugly stick with a barrel on it, and a bayonet lug that mounts either a spike big enough to crucify someone, or a blade the size of a small sword.

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1 posted on 01/01/2009 10:23:36 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

bumping it for later read


2 posted on 01/01/2009 10:26:38 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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3 posted on 01/01/2009 10:26:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

4 posted on 01/01/2009 10:27:15 AM PST by OL Hickory (Where is the America I knew as a boy?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I like #9.


5 posted on 01/01/2009 10:30:01 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

6 posted on 01/01/2009 10:30:50 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
No doubt: The 7.62 Mosin. I fired one once, in the prone position with padding. I still became a man that day.
7 posted on 01/01/2009 10:33:56 AM PST by LiberConservative ("I, you know, can see, you know, upstate, you know, from my house, you know.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I only have four of the 10.


8 posted on 01/01/2009 10:38:09 AM PST by Spirochete
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Spot on reference guide to the best weapons out there.


9 posted on 01/01/2009 10:39:21 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

[1] MG 42
[2] Stg 44
[3] Thompson submachinegun
[4] Colt Peacemaker
[5] Sharps 45-70
[6] Luger
[7] Erma [so-called ‘Schmeisser’] machinepistol


11 posted on 01/01/2009 10:41:15 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Cartridge firearms a man might, can, and should collect and shoot are all variations of the Mauser rifles, my favorite being the Vz 24.

Mausers from across the world and farflung places are uber-collectable and have the smell of history all over them.

12 posted on 01/01/2009 10:41:19 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

#10: SMLE
The 10 SMLE was the other great weapon of the Modern British Empire (The Brown Bess musket being the first). Several MILLION Short Model Lee-Enfields in .303 caliber are still spread across the Earth, waiting to be used to evolve the species by killing the weak.

#9: Mosin-Nagant M44
Speaking of guns without safeties, here’s the Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine from Russia. The Mosin was used by the Russians against the Finns, the Finns against the Russians, the Estonians against the Russians, the Russians against the Russians, and the Russians against the Germans. It does, in fact, have a safety, but it’s quite hard to engage. But this is not a complaint one would ever voice in the Red Army. Your officer would reply, “Safety? Safety? Is gun! Meant to kill! No warrior should know he has safety on gun, because he should be killing enemies of homeland! Safety make loud click to aid enemy in locating warriors! No safety!” while pounding his fist on the table.

#8: GLOCK
The GLOCK is feared by liberals. It’s called “plastic” and “ceramic” and “capable of going through airport metal detectors.” If this were true, it would be the coolest gun on Earth. But these things are total lies, and serve to point out that liberals are not men, and have no honor. The GLOCK has a plastic frame molded over a kilogram of metal (84% of the weight is metal), and will in fact, show up on any metal detector. So will the dense plastic.

#7: Swiss K31 Carbine
The Swiss K31 carbine is…well, the Swiss Watch of rifles. It is precise, sturdy, accurate, powerful and unusual in having a straight pull bolt action. It might as well be semi-auto, if a gas tube had just been added. But the Swiss are traditionalists and not afraid of it.

#6: AK47
Another communist piece of trash, and I say that with the greatest respect. The Automat Kalashnikov in 7.62X39mm is simple enough for a third world peasant. It’s quite robust. It is muzzle heavy and thus shoots well in full auto, though it is unlikely you can own a full auto one legally. Still, in semi, the weight helps a bit with rapid fire. The AK can be called anything except pretty and accurate, and it lacks a bolt stop to hold the action open when empty. On the other hand, you can bury it in the mud for a week and it will still fire after you urinate in it to sluice the mud out. You can also elect to get a variation of the newer AK74 and AK100, in 5.45X 39mm. Also look at Valmet, Finland, who makes AKs with their own name. These ARE accurate, but pricey.

#4: AR15
Lots of people will dispute my choice of this rifle. Those people are whiners and pussies. Let’s look at the facts: The Air Police grabbed it under direction from General Curtis leMay. Upon seeing it in Vietnam, the Green Berets, SEALs, and SAS jumped on it, to be followed by the Singaporean Special Forces and the Israelis. It soon became standard. Certainly, there were problems early on, in part because the limpwristed twits in Army Logistics made changes to the weapon and ammo without consulting with the designer, Eugene Stoner. The USMC (the manliest men of the manliest military on the planet, and true Vikings—shipboard warriors who strike fear into their enemies just by existing) were called in to remedy some of those flaws with the M16A2.

#3: Remington 870
The Remington 870 has been around for decades. It is easy to maintain, easy to find parts for, almost flawlessly reliable, can be outfitted with a broad variety of accessories that enhance its inherent and undisguisable lethality. I recommend a 20” barrel with an extended 7 round magazine, plus one in the chamber, alternating buckshot and slugs. Or you can go with all buckshot. This affords the opportunity to fire 8 rounds with 9 pellets each of 000 buck, measuring approximately 9mm, in about two and a half seconds with practice. That’s twice the output of an Uzi with better hit probability and more power. In other words, as guns go, it is very well hung.

#2: Colt Model 1911A1 .45 ACP
John Moses Browning is the patron saint of shooters and weapon designers. This was a man so manly that his sole purpose in life was to create weapons to kill tasty animals and the enemies of our nation in job lots. These weapons were so successful that both sides used the Hi Power in WWII, and the US Army is fixing its unmanly error of the 9mm by calling for bids on a new .45, while the Marine Recon units and certain other Special Operations units are STILL using the Model 1911A1 with a few improvements, 96 years after it was first fielded.

Barrett M82 .50 Caliber Rifle
#1: Barrett M82 .50 caliber rifle
Ronnie Barrett is a true modern Viking. He hunts big game. He plays with guns. One day in the late 70s, he thought to himself, “Wouldn’t it be cool if there was a RIFLE that fired the same .50 BMG cartridge as Saint John Browning’s Heavy Machine Gun?” So he built it. That’s manly.


13 posted on 01/01/2009 10:43:17 AM PST by Beelzebubba (Guns don't kill people. Criminals and the governments that create them kill people.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

In addition to my choices at post#11, I’ve always wanted an 88.


14 posted on 01/01/2009 10:43:49 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

THE TEN MANLIEST FIREARMS

Isn’t that like listing the Ten Wettest Rivers?


15 posted on 01/01/2009 10:44:38 AM PST by AnnGora (I am unique. Just like everybody else.)
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To: SolidWood
I want one of those Swiss rifles. That and the Barret .50 would mean I have every one on the list.

L

16 posted on 01/01/2009 10:44:43 AM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: Spirochete
"I only have four of the 10"

I have only three but I'll take my long barreled Ruger Blackhawk in .44mag over the #29 any day.

Plus, I do feel a .357mag belongs on the list somewhere.

17 posted on 01/01/2009 10:48:39 AM PST by muir_redwoods (B. O. Stinks!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Here's on guy that doesn't need a gun.
18 posted on 01/01/2009 10:48:48 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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19 posted on 01/01/2009 10:48:57 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: Beelzebubba

I simply can’t believe that Dirty Harry’s Smith & Wesson Model 29 didn’t make the list.

While it’s no longer the most powerful handgun in the world, it’s still very manly nonetheless.


20 posted on 01/01/2009 10:49:18 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The USMC (the manliest men of the manliest military on the planet, and true Vikings—shipboard warriors who strike fear into their enemies just by existing) ...
LOL - Semper Fi!
21 posted on 01/01/2009 10:49:34 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Oberon

It did at the article.


22 posted on 01/01/2009 10:50:25 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How could he leave out the Tommy gun? Or the M1 rifle? Or the Russian PPSh-41 submachine gun? Or the .38 police special?


23 posted on 01/01/2009 10:50:43 AM PST by Argus ("From my cold dead hand...")
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To: Tijeras_Slim
It did at the article.

Oh... my apologies, then. Though I don't have an M29, I do own a big heavy N-frame.

24 posted on 01/01/2009 10:51:47 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I go to lengths to not assign anthropomorphic ideas like “manliness” to weapons, any more than I would to a table saw, because it fools you into thinking that a gun, or a table saw, is more than a tool. And that is a good way to “lose a finger”, figuratively.

A gun does not make you stronger, give you good judgment, make you a good shot, give you control over a situation, make you “win”, or protect you from any other weapon.

It is a tool, and needs to be treated with respect, as a tool.

Mostly guys, who think having a gun gives them juice, and makes other guys respect them, is in for a surprise.


25 posted on 01/01/2009 10:52:33 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: cbkaty

My personal favorite is the Phased Plasma Rifle in a 40 watt range. A really sweet baby for home protection and any other negative situation.


26 posted on 01/01/2009 10:53:10 AM PST by NCC-1701 (DRILL NOW. DRILL OFTEN. DRILL 24/7/365. PAY LESS. SUCK THE GROUND DRY.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There is a follow-up list of 10 more manly guns at the site:

http://arthurshall.com/x_2008_manly_guns_2.shtml


27 posted on 01/01/2009 10:53:29 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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To: Argus
...or the .455 Webley Mark VI?

I saw a guy in a movie get pistol-whipped with one of these. I thought "OWWWWWW..."

28 posted on 01/01/2009 10:54:01 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon

Yep, I’m partial to N frames myself. Scored a nice pre-27 in 3.5” with cokes this year.


29 posted on 01/01/2009 10:54:34 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Beelzebubba
“#9: Mosin-Nagant M44
Speaking of guns without safeties, here’s the Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine from Russia. The Mosin was used by the Russians against the Finns, the Finns against the Russians, the Estonians against the Russians, the Russians against the “Russians, and the Russians against the Germans. It does, in fact, have a safety, but it’s quite hard to engage. But this is not a complaint one would ever voice in the Red Army. Your officer would reply, “Safety? Safety? Is gun! Meant to kill! No warrior should know he has safety on gun, because he should be killing enemies of homeland! Safety make loud click to aid enemy in locating warriors! No safety!” while pounding his fist on the table.”

A member of the gun club that I belonged to several decades ago in Middleton, Wisconsin, was a refugee from WWII and the eastern front. He was a soldier in the German Army. He related how he jumped into a shell hole during one of the epic tank battles on eastern front after his tank had been disabled, only to find five Russian soldiers in it armed with rifles. He killed all five with his Browning Highpower 9mm. I have often pondered if they were armed with the Mosin-Nagant, which in such cramped quarters would be quite unweildy. If they had the “safety” on, it is very difficult to disingage. If they kept the chamber unloaded, it may actually be easier to chamber a round rather than to take the “safety” off.

Any way, he said he killed all five, and I found it very convincing.

30 posted on 01/01/2009 10:54:51 AM PST by marktwain
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
Here's on guy that doesn't need a gun.
This is my rifle, this is my gun.
One is for shooting, the other for fun.

31 posted on 01/01/2009 10:55:12 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Lurker

For info on where to buy the Swiss K-31:
http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=68795

I’m glad I bought 4 when they were $89!


32 posted on 01/01/2009 10:57:04 AM PST by Beelzebubba (Guns don't kill people. Criminals and the governments that create them kill people.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Bump!


34 posted on 01/01/2009 10:59:47 AM PST by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: LiberConservative

An alternate for the list I would add is the FN FAL. It was intimidating to behold, and made my SKS feel like a pellet gun.

The Remington 870 is a perfect addition, and no home should be without one, or an alternate like the Mossberg 500, both being very reliable. I can’t imagine anyone hearing the pump action and not giving pause to their intentions. The S&W has to be one of the most awesome handguns ever. “Hand cannon” describes it perfectly.


36 posted on 01/01/2009 11:01:49 AM PST by kenth (It's now spend and tax. How's that for change?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

No BAR?

No SA M1A?

No .454 Casull?


37 posted on 01/01/2009 11:02:06 AM PST by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: Southsider
Why would a German soldier have an American Browning handgun?

Because they captured the FN plant in Liege Belgium where the hi power was produced?

38 posted on 01/01/2009 11:02:50 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Oberon; Argus

Carried a K-frame .38 Special as a civilian policeman at an Air Guard base back in the 80’s, as well as the Air Force version of the M-16 (no forward assist). Very reliable handgun.


39 posted on 01/01/2009 11:03:18 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: Oberon

It’s #5.


40 posted on 01/01/2009 11:05:30 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well chosen group of weapons.

The link leads to “Crazy Einar”, who is Michael Z. Williamson, a fellow who writes for Baen Books.

Unabashed plug: Pretty hard to find a bad read published by Baen. Even harder to find something liberal even the tiniest bit. There is a “free library” section filled with excellent free downloads, including Drake’s “The Tank Lords”, two other Slammers yarns, Weber’s “Mutineers’ Moon”, “On Basilisk Station”, “The Honor of the Queen”, and maybe two hundred others. Go for it. Best deal in the known universe.


41 posted on 01/01/2009 11:05:44 AM PST by Iris7 ("Do not live lies!" ...Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I like this little guy .45 defender


42 posted on 01/01/2009 11:07:02 AM PST by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Nothing else comes close to this ...not 50 calibers nor Howdah doubles nor quads...

this is the big daddy

maybe a handheld puntgun in 4 or 8 bore could compete

43 posted on 01/01/2009 11:07:30 AM PST by wardaddy (Monarchists for Palin 2012)
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To: Keith Brown

No Desert Eagle .50 AE?


44 posted on 01/01/2009 11:08:34 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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well screw u hotlink, we can go around that thanks to PB

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46 posted on 01/01/2009 11:12:58 AM PST by wardaddy (Monarchists for Palin 2012)
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To: Southsider
I certainly wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of a 9mm either, but the article is about manly weapons and...

45v9
:)
Happy New Year!
47 posted on 01/01/2009 11:13:47 AM PST by javachip
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To: Southsider
Southsider asked:
Why would a German soldier have an American Browning handgun?

marktwain replies:
The Browning Highpower was designed by John Moses Browning and manufactured by FN in Belgium. It adopted and used by numerous armies all over the world. The NAZIs took over a great many countries, and used their manufacturing plants to arm their soldiers. Many people consider it one of the finest combat handguns ever made. Glocks have some superior characteristics, improving (IMHO) on some of Brownings designs. You could say that a Glock 17 is a Browning Highpower with modern materials and obvious improvements.
48 posted on 01/01/2009 11:14:03 AM PST by marktwain
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To: wardaddy

I sure wouldn’t want to shoot that thing!


50 posted on 01/01/2009 11:16:09 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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