Posted on 01/02/2009 1:16:10 PM PST by patriot08
Ed Hale of Plains Radio has secured a copy of the Dunham/Obama divorce decree as promised. He has registered this at the courthouse and has turned the document over to lawyers who are reported to be happy and enthused over the contents.
This is the first page. This is all that can be divulged at this time as those who have seen the decree are sworn to silence. You may hear information about it tonight on Ed's plainsradio show.
Well, his grandparents and parents were Communists AND his mentor was a Communist.
Looking at the documents, they all look pretty standard, Petition, Motion, Order for Hearing and Service, Decree. Each document has individually typewritten page numbers if more than one page in length, which is standard. I wouldn’t anticipate seeing any other documents like birth certificates in a divorce, unless reference as Exhibits in the Petition. My only thought is that they could contain the Certificate of Service of Obama Sr. or a written Answer by Obama Sr.
To cut to the chase., my hobby research in genealogy and this is the greatest test for many years. An absolute classic search. Howard Hughes Jr family line a real masterpiece of research. Also the grandfather of Adolf Hitler is- have not found him yet.
I know that this subject has galvanized and indeed invigorated many Freepers. Some are beginning to wilt and this is understandable. The positives are that it has been a learning experience. Next, once and for all, surely, surely, the powers that be, will lay down firm rules for anyone in future, who puts his/her name on the ballot for the Presidency.
I wish all well in this quest and a belated Happy New Year.
Attorney is talking about British citizenship vs. American citizenship and the implications of such at the time Obama was born ...
“How can that be?”
From what I read, he pulled a Panamanian. This is not unusual in Panama. He had a fire where important papers went up in flames.
In a few years I might not need a sarcasm tag for that statement. Taking the House Senate and WH may prove to be the Dem’s Waterloo. heh heh
If you want me to read your posts you might consider signing up under a different Freepname or having someone else less trollish ask whatever questions there are.
Star Traveler, our resident Obama groupie.
Always here to run interference for da man.
Uses enough words —repetitively, ponderously, mindlessly for a dozen posters.
Figures if he keeps the noise blowing long and hard enough, he’ll exhaust people into retreat.
The people who owned and resided in the house on Kalanianaole Hwy. in Honolulu, which is the address listed in the birth announcements for Barack Obama.
Ed, I was excited and all, but that ‘little ole peice of paper’ ain’t crap when it comes to Barack being born out of the US.
You got burned on your $1,000.
Um...Ed?
LOL
You said — “If you want me to read your posts you might consider signing up under a different Freepname or having someone else less trollish ask whatever questions there are.”
It’s quite all right..., I won’t be offended if you don’t read them... no problem...
jetxnet
Since Nov 25, 2008
Are you a FR retread?
Thanks for the ping. Stranger and stranger...
In 1961 there was a flight from Kenya to Glasgow, Scotland then onto Vancouver, B.C. She could have shown the birth certificate from Kenya there and been waved through since Kenya was a part of the British Commonweath as is Canada. From there to travel down to Seattle she would most likely have gone through Bellingham.
Yes, and as I’ve been listening to the attorney I think I understand the significance of the divorce documents now.
They PROVE Jr. is the son of Sr. As such - he can not be natural born due to being born under the jurisdiction of his father - who was not a US Citizen.
Don't they always? Just once I would like to see one of these fellows say, "I'm footing the bill to see this to the finish. If you want to help, you are welcome to donate."
What continues to amaze me is that a person is about to become the most powerful person in the world and the MSM, both left and right, don’t seem to give a $hit about his hidden past.
Star Traveler, our resident Obama groupie.
Always here to run interference for da man.
Uses enough words —repetitively, ponderously, mindlessly for a dozen posters.
Figures if he keeps the noise blowing long and hard enough, he’ll exhaust people into retreat.
I thought I was imagining things
Sorry, meant to post to All.
I was talking about Ed Hale. He got a big ole fat nothing.
Now let’s see if he can get this birth certificate he claims is out there.
Looks like a bait and switch to me. The lawyer guy shot Hale down when he claimed the divorce decree was the smoking gun. Now he’s claiming that his other document they don’t have is the key piece of evidence in proving that Obama was born in Kenya.
Looking more and more like BS every minute. I’m not holding my breath on this one.
It’s somewhat troubling (the missing pages,) yet Ed didn’t seem to be too worried about the ‘temporary’ omission.
I beg to differ with you. I don’t find Ed to be a clown. I find his motive just. Show me where someone else ‘found’ this legal decree, AND distributed it for public perusal.
Ah..., I see I hit a hot button there with you — since you don’t like the fact that we had a President who was born in Canada that was not natural born... eh?
LOL...
That’s what one calls the *inconvenient truth*... unfortunately — and we should all be concerned about the truth...
All someone has to do is look up Chester A. Arthur and they will find that he had allegations that he was born in Canada. In fact, they tried to “prove it” and couldn’t — so the allegations persisted, but he still became President.
Now..., are you going try to “cover up” that inconvenient truth??
All: Face it, Star Traveler is gum on our shoe.
He’s here ad infinitum, ad nauseum, to blather on and on and on and on...
All in the name of his daddy Obama.
Don’t encourage him, let him be a blabbering DOT.
The divorce decree proves for the first time ever that Barack Obama Sr. is actually the father of Barack Hussein Obama II.
The spelling of Stanley Ann D. Obama in the divorce decree leads to a birth certificate that was registered at a port of entry in the US on August 8, 1961 for Barack Obama as having been born in Kenya. (No more details about that released so far in the conversation.)
Thus Ed’s argument is that he now has documented evidence to prove Leo Donofrio’s claim that Obama Jr. was subject to the British crown at the time of his birth and that he will soon have a copy of said registered birth certificate ...
Going to break and news ...
I will never be convinced that he really is the father of Obama. They just dont look like each other.
The date of the newspaper that had O’s birth announcement was August 8th, 1961.
Why would the plane go from Scotland to Vancouver on the west coast? A plane from Scotland would have landed on the east coast, especially in 1961.
puppet Obama
everyone i know in many diff places are looking for
the UN-PATCHED places of 0bama .
no matter how it HAS been patched in the past even with scrubbing TRUTH prevails.
TRUTH ALWAYS
“As such - he can not be natural born due to being born under the jurisdiction of his father - who was not a US Citizen.”
So this means we’re back to the question of what it means to be “natural born” and in today’s world it seems to be if the baby is dropped within the US borders, he’s natural born. Now, if he really were not born in Hawaii...
I see you’ve come out of hiding... (at least for little ole me, anyway...)...
I can see that, but there is nothing to prove really since Obama admits it freely himself.
Agree. Ed deserves credit for finding and producing this document.
So what? That fact has never been disputed by Obama or anyone associated with him.
Polar route.
He would only be under the jurisdiction of his father (according to Title 8 code) IF he was born in Kenya. If he was born in the US, all the questions about residency requirements of his mother are moot.
That official State of Hawaii embossed seals really do show up on scans?
-PJ
Well, I can tell you that Canada certainly lays no claim to birthing an American president. If we could, we sure would....thus, I don’t believe it.
I know what you mean. High cheekbones are a dominant trait and he looks NOTHING like his father. Not even a little bit.
You said — “I will never be convinced that he really is the father of Obama. They just dont look like each other.”
He looks like the son of Malcolm X...
Thanks, CE. I like the part of being waved through Vancouver because of the British colony BC.
Glasgow to Vancouver seems far for a jet w/o refueling—did they go over the Artic Circle route?
So Bellingham would be the most likely P.O.E.? Would records from 1961 still exist there? Will be interesting to find out.
What did it prove?
Actually the fact that people cared back then as to whether or not a candidate for Presient was actually born here or not is a good thing and not an ‘incovienant truth’. Still is a good thing today as well. I applaud the peoplewho are trying to get to the truth on the ‘natural born’ issue as well as the ‘born in Kenya’ issue.
Over the pole route?
“What did the divorce document prove?
That official State of Hawaii embossed seals really do show up on scans”
Note to self: Finish drinking sip of soda before reading Political Junkie’s posts. LOL!
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I'm listening.. He sounds like Alan Alda (Mash TV series) British citizenship is/was a perpetual descendancy. Obama’s children are British citizens.
and the irony is...he would be eligible for president even if born in Kenya if Malcolm X was his father.
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