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Owners of Olympia (WA) pizza place cut off heat to employees
King5.com ^ | 1/2/09 | Jesse Jones

Posted on 01/02/2009 8:34:30 PM PST by hoagy62

LACEY, Wash. – Employees of a pizza delivery shop say the owners have cut off the heat in the store. And they say if the workers don’t like it, they can leave.

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KEYWORDS: boss; cheapskates; cruel; employer; olympia; pizza; theboss
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The workers made a mistake, so the owners are punishing the employees by not allowing them to turn on the heat...and it's been cold here recently. And no...the pizza oven does NOT warm the place up. The exhaust fan for the oven sucks all the heat out of the building.

Read the article and see what kind of total jerkbags the owners are. They don't deserve to own a business.

1 posted on 01/02/2009 8:34:30 PM PST by hoagy62
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To: hoagy62

Evidently they don’t realize that it’s 2009 now, and programmable thermostats are the norm. This is why we end up with thousands of laws and regulations from OSHA & moronic city council resolutions.


2 posted on 01/02/2009 8:37:57 PM PST by The Worthless Miracle (I will not gird my loins for Joe Biden.)
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To: hoagy62

Even 55 is too cold. Start delivering cold pizza and I’ll bet they start to care.


3 posted on 01/02/2009 8:39:07 PM PST by CindyDawg (I)
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To: hoagy62
They don't deserve to own a business.

I suppose the market place will make that decision, like its supposed to.

I've had crappy bosses too. I found a different job.

4 posted on 01/02/2009 8:41:52 PM PST by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: hoagy62

They sound like jerks. Just buy an inexpensive programmable thermostat and program in the different temps for the different times of the day and night, and it becomes a non-issue.

There is something more to this. It is not just about the heat. The owner woman has a stick up her butt about something bigger than just the heat.


5 posted on 01/02/2009 8:41:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: hoagy62

SCROOGE: Hey, hey, you there! Bob Cratchit! Come here! What are you doing
there?!

BOB CRATCHIT: I’m only putting a bit more coal in the fire, Mr. Scrooge,
seeing it’s so cold in there, sir.

SCROOGE: You put that coal back into the scuttle! A fire! A fire, indeed. I
can tell you, if you use coal at that rate, you and I will soon be parting
company, Bob Cratchit. You understand that? There’s many a young fella’d like
your situation, you know.

BOB CRATCHIT: I’m sorry, sir. My fingers were getting a little stiff with the
cold—

SCROOGE: Then put on your mittens.

**************

From Orson Welles adaptation of A Christmas Carol (1939)


6 posted on 01/02/2009 8:45:13 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Secret Agent Man

She’s a bean counter and has a heater.


7 posted on 01/02/2009 8:46:09 PM PST by CindyDawg (I)
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To: hoagy62

The owners are jerkoffs. If I were an employee I’d tell the owners where to stuff their f***ing pizza dough....


8 posted on 01/02/2009 8:46:36 PM PST by freebilly
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To: CindyDawg
She’s a bean counter

She's a biotch....

9 posted on 01/02/2009 8:47:27 PM PST by freebilly
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To: hoagy62

A little taste of what’s to come when Dear Leader starts telling us to reduce our heating, lighting and AC for the benefit of the Climate and to reduce our oil and coal consumption. On the bright side...Dear Leaders National Civilian Corps Barracks will be nicely heated and cooled.


10 posted on 01/02/2009 8:49:29 PM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: hoagy62

Pizza Time ...We serve the coldest pizza in town or it is free.


11 posted on 01/02/2009 8:49:46 PM PST by razorback-bert (Save the planet...it is the only known one with beer!)
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To: freebilly
The owners are jerkoffs. If I were an employee I’d tell the owners where to stuff their f***ing pizza dough....

They might be better off talking to the labor board.

12 posted on 01/02/2009 8:49:48 PM PST by Netizen
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To: hoagy62
Something doesn't make sense here. At the temperatures mentioned in the parent article, I would expect the water pipes to freeze and burst. I thought most buildings were heated to at least 55F to prevent this.

In addition, at around 20F, I would think frostbite on hands would be an issue. That could be one heck of a workman's comp claim... If an employee reported an on-the-job injury as a result of this, imagine what would happen to the owner's insurance premiums.

13 posted on 01/02/2009 8:50:45 PM PST by RochesterFan
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To: Netizen

WA State Labor Board has already been asked by the reporter. No law exists stating what the temp is supposed to be, except maybe the law of common sense.

Which neither of the owners seem to have any of.


14 posted on 01/02/2009 8:51:49 PM PST by hoagy62 (Tidings of comfort and joy are now too expensive.)
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To: hoagy62; sionnsar

Bet the customers love the dining room.


15 posted on 01/02/2009 8:54:35 PM PST by Professional Engineer (You don't know the power of the Dork Side.)
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To: SampleMan

“The beatings will continue until morale improves”.

I can’t remember where that phrase originated.


16 posted on 01/02/2009 8:54:50 PM PST by unkus
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To: hoagy62
No law exists stating what the temp is supposed to be, except maybe the law of common sense.

Guess its time to change that law. They probably didn't think any owners would be so nasty. Some businesses are just crappy that way. Not sure how bad the economy is there but the workers might have a hard time finding different jobs.

17 posted on 01/02/2009 8:57:12 PM PST by Netizen
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To: hoagy62

I think this is going to change soon.


19 posted on 01/02/2009 9:00:32 PM PST by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: CindyDawg

That’s part of her mentality but there’s more behind this.

I would bet the business is not doing well and she is taking the stress out on the employee’s small screwup. And/or something has gone on there where she feels the employees don’t respect her enough and she’s being a hard ass to possibly get the ones she doesn’t like to get in line or quit. Her reaction is emotional to punish, not logical or financial, as getting a cheap programmable thermostat would solve the problem. A person who just wants to make sure the heat isn’t left on would just get a programmable thermostat and take the issue out of everyone’s hands, no more problem. She is ‘teaching them a lesson.’

There is more to it.


20 posted on 01/02/2009 9:00:46 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: hoagy62
Hello, you've reached I w-w-work for a s-s-Stupid d-d-Douchebag Pizza, m-m-may I t-t-take your order?
21 posted on 01/02/2009 9:00:56 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg
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22 posted on 01/02/2009 9:03:25 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: CindyDawg

Maybe they’ll start caring when their pipes freeze.


23 posted on 01/02/2009 9:03:54 PM PST by Barb4Bush (God help us all!)
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To: unkus
“The beatings will continue until morale improves”.

Egypt. 4500 years ago...

24 posted on 01/02/2009 9:05:35 PM PST by null and void (Petroglyphs. The original cliffs notes...)
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To: Netizen

No, we don’t need laws regulating temp because most adjust to employee/customer comfort. That can’t be regulated. In Texas though, employers are responsible to provide an appropriate work environment. I read what the reporter typed but since they can’t safely work in a restuarant environment without coats etc then I bet OSHA could get the heat bumped up to a comfortable level.


25 posted on 01/02/2009 9:06:25 PM PST by CindyDawg (I)
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To: hoagy62

OK, you’se delivery guys don’t like it?

Goes sits in your own delivery cars with the heat on, we’ll call you when its time for a delivery so your fat ass dosen’t get cold.

Total Bullsh!t!


26 posted on 01/02/2009 9:07:12 PM PST by aShepard (Maybe 12/6 is the time to launch a constitutional amendment that lays out POTUS requirements!)
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To: hoagy62

Methinks this “Pizza Time” won’t be around long.

http://pizzatime.com/menus.shtml


27 posted on 01/02/2009 9:07:59 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: dannyprimrose1

Its hard to get out of paying wages. LLC’s provide limited separation from the individual and the corporation.

I’ve never seen a small business pocket mucho money from going out of business.


28 posted on 01/02/2009 9:10:27 PM PST by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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In my late teens I worked the tuna docks in Honolulu. The fish came in frozen. A few other bras, hippies and I would off load the boat and fill crates with the catch in small (~800 sq ft) deep freezers. The work was so cold we were rotated and given a 15 minute break every half hour. I didn't think it was necessary.

There was lots of fish tossing and catching. I once took a couple of inches of dorsal fin in the forearm. It went in at a shallow angle so it was cool.

The boats I worked were Japanese and their crews generally didn't speak English and were very friendly. If you bummed a smoke they would insist that you take the pack.

Those guys should quit. Maybe find work in a sushi restaurant.


29 posted on 01/02/2009 9:12:24 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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30 posted on 01/02/2009 9:12:28 PM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: hoagy62

I read on another forum that the minimum wage in Washington State went up again and is now the highest in the nation. If this is true, then maybe the owners are trying to make up for increased labor costs without hitting the customers for more money.


32 posted on 01/02/2009 9:17:07 PM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: null and void

“Egypt. 4500 years ago...”

LOL Thanks, now I remember.


33 posted on 01/02/2009 9:23:04 PM PST by unkus
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To: hoagy62

Had a boss once that complained about the workers as she sat in her office, stuffing her face and watching soaps.

I have a much better situation now. When they are messing around they have the decency to leave the building.


34 posted on 01/02/2009 9:24:38 PM PST by Colvin (Harry Reid is a sap sucking idiot.)
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To: hoagy62

They should go find another job.


35 posted on 01/02/2009 9:29:41 PM PST by SouthTexas
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I didn’t read the full article...didn’t have to.

The guy who owns the business has every right to turn the heat off if he wants to. The employees have the right to quit.


36 posted on 01/02/2009 9:37:06 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: hoagy62

Not sure if there was some other back story to this saga, but it doesn’t seem like the boss is being anything other than a word that rhymes with “witch”. Sadly for some, that’s not illegal.

Something else that isn’t illegal is for the local public to order their pizza elsewhere and drive the franchise into closure or surrender. The henpecked husband also did the public a favor by mentioning the name of his wife’s (the boss in the center of this mess) accounting business: “accurate accounting.” Another opportunity for the public to vote with their feet.


37 posted on 01/02/2009 9:49:37 PM PST by jz638
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To: dannyprimrose1

Try it. I think you’ll find it difficult to find capital. Banks aren’t stupid and neither are most investors.


38 posted on 01/02/2009 9:51:41 PM PST by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: sionnsar

Time to call in to that owner,some (in the pizza delivery vernacular) “funny pizzas”.

That ought to get him a clue.


40 posted on 01/02/2009 10:01:23 PM PST by Senormechanico
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To: hoagy62
How many "if not all" voted for Obama and believes in Globall Warming.
Do they still believe in Globall Warming, is the issue.

QB did the right thing IMO. If the peons don't like it, LEAVE!
Isn't what some here say about Radio? If you don't like it, don't listen?

/Hah

41 posted on 01/02/2009 10:12:16 PM PST by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: Dallas59

Except Barry won’t deign to don a sweater or set the WH at 68 degrees like Jimmah Carter. King Hussein and Queen ‘Chelle will be dressed in ermine as they tell the commoners to freeze for the benefit of the planet.


42 posted on 01/02/2009 10:12:55 PM PST by informavoracious
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>>>“The beatings will continue until morale improves”.<<<

A friend gave me a cap with the inscription: The beatings will continue until crew morale improves"

My guess is it originated in the British Navy...circa 1700 or before. I wear the cap every time we leave the dock with a new crew member.

43 posted on 01/02/2009 10:33:13 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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My guess is she wouldn't know a progammable thermostat from a pizza pan. She probably doesn't own the building so has no say about the thermostat.

I think your overanalyzing. She's a first class....bad employer.

...read "bitzh" for "bad employer".

44 posted on 01/02/2009 10:40:10 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: SouthTexas

It’s not always possible to find another job these days.


45 posted on 01/02/2009 10:59:18 PM PST by ottbmare
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To: ottbmare

Smart Olympia Pizza buyers by Brewery City Pizza anyway.

Pizza Time? Never heard of them. And I’ve lived here most of my life.


46 posted on 01/02/2009 11:09:08 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: hoagy62

PIZZA TIME CORPORATE OFFICES

http://tinyurl.com/848qek

Pizza Time
Email: info@pizzatime.com


47 posted on 01/02/2009 11:17:24 PM PST by kcvl
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To: free_life
......but history knows what happened when Henry Ford used this management strategy

if it wasn't for Ford being such a scrooge we prolly wouldn't have unions today

48 posted on 01/03/2009 12:40:41 AM PST by KTM rider (keep thy powder dry, gird thy loins, and brace for the winds of change)
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To: free_life
I didn’t read the full article...didn’t have to...The guy who owns the business has every right to turn the heat off if he wants to. The employees have the right to quit.

That's not really what the article was about. It was mostly just an interesting story about what a jackass one employer is. Whether or not he had the right to be such was barely a footnote, but go ahead and defend him if you feel so obligated.

49 posted on 01/03/2009 12:48:31 AM PST by Junior_G
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To: HardStarboard

Beatings for even small infractions were common in 18th and 19th century military forces, including the US. I don’t know why they came about to the extent they did and when they abruptly stopped.


50 posted on 01/03/2009 1:09:08 AM PST by neb52 (Currently Reading: The Senior by Mike Flynt)
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