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AMD Shanghai Opteron CPUs On Linux
phoronix.com ^ | January 02, 2009 | Michael Larabel

Posted on 01/05/2009 9:01:29 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Last quarter AMD

introduced their "Shanghai" Opteron processors that join the ranks of Intel's Harpertown Xeon CPUs that are 45nm quad-core server/workstation parts. Initial reviews of these new AMD Opteron processors have been very positive, but how do these chips perform with Linux? In this article we have our hands on a few of the fastest Shanghais, the AMD Opteron 2384 clocked at 2.7GHz, as we see how well they compare to the older "Barcelona" Opteron processors.

(Excerpt) Read more at phoronix.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: amd; hitech; opteron; shanghai

1 posted on 01/05/2009 9:01:29 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: ShadowAce

fyi


2 posted on 01/05/2009 9:02:03 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

3 posted on 01/05/2009 9:09:13 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Highly unfortunate that they didn’t include a quad-core Intel CPU in the mix.

The new AMD CPUs look promising though, competition is always good.


4 posted on 01/05/2009 9:13:12 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty
They were talking about that on this Forum thread...Deneb out on the 8th...also....:

AMD Shanghai Opteron CPUs On Linux

5 posted on 01/05/2009 9:18:23 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Looks good, but not a huge improvement. Phenom II will be released soon. Should have similar improvements?


6 posted on 01/05/2009 9:20:07 AM PST by smokingfrog (I'll go green when they plant me in the ground.)
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To: All
From the Forum thread linked above...

the desktop part, the "Phenom II", launches....maybe it is the 10th of January...Hmmm...no that would be a Saturday...

7 posted on 01/05/2009 9:22:12 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: smokingfrog

I would think so....but as always.....it all depends on your instruction mix...


8 posted on 01/05/2009 9:23:48 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Linux is certainly available on many new models of PCs here in Shanghai; seems to be gaining popularity.

Our 17 year old son just bought himself a new Acer notebook with nothing on it and installed Linux on it himself. Appears to be working great. Worked wonderfully on 1G of RAM and he then upgraded to 3G and the thing really flies. The graphics are tremendous!

I may dump my MS and let him load Linux on my units.


9 posted on 01/05/2009 9:24:40 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789
So which Distro is he running and did he have any trouble with the specifics of the internal laptop hardware?

...like wireless,..sound,..graphics...that is a usual problem area,....and it varies by which distro is used,....

10 posted on 01/05/2009 9:28:45 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I was able to install the latest Ubuntu distro on a rather obscure old laptop (Medion), with a third party Wifi adapter I installed myself.

It installed without a hitch, I was very impressed.

11 posted on 01/05/2009 9:35:42 AM PST by Paradox (When the left have no one to villainize, they'll turn on each other.)
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To: All
Looking around found this from 5th of September 2008, 06:02 GMT at softpedia.com:

Leaked Slide Confirms AMD 45nm Deneb CPUs at CES 2009

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A recently revealed slide showing AMD’s CPU roadmap indicates that the Sunnyvale-based chip maker is bound to release its first 45nm-manufactured quad-core Phenom processors as soon as January 2009. The slide appears to confirm recent rumors, according to which AMD plans to release the first 45nm desktop processors, codenamed Deneb, at next year’s CES show, which will debut on January 8.

 

The leaked slide has been uploaded on the Spanish-language Chw Forum and, besides confirming the 2009 release of the 45nm Deneb processors, it also details closer-to-release Brisbane, Toliman and Lima CPUs. According to it, the company will release the Athlon X2 5050e Brisbane processor on October 8, along with the triple-core Phenom X3 8850 Toliman processor. November will bring the release of single-core and dual-core low power CPUs.
12 posted on 01/05/2009 9:38:16 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: John Leland 1789
Here I'm using NX to run a remote desktop into Linux from Windows. It's very nice (even across the Internet), and the perfect way to slowly migrate towards Linux.

Of course you've got to have a server out there to talk to.

13 posted on 01/05/2009 9:40:41 AM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Typing this on a 4 Core Phenom 9950 as we speak. You know, gotta have 1.21 Yottaflops to keep up with my sizzling typing.


14 posted on 01/05/2009 9:49:04 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Paradox
Krap. I tried Kubuntu 8.04 or 8.10 and everything worked except the Wifi. Wouldn't recognize either of the two PCI cards I have and one of them's three years old. Now aside from the fact that it doesn't work (or maybe BECAUSE it doesn't work), I think they've caught up with Widows in usability. Still gotta work though. Neither FreeBSD or PCLinusOS wants to install at all.
15 posted on 01/05/2009 9:54:29 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: John Leland 1789
I may dump my MS and let him load Linux on my units.

Just got a new Thinkpad, T61. I'm going to install Windows Vista (came with the laptop) as a guest OS under SuSE's Xen virtual machine server. Just to do it, haven't really had the need to run Windows for many years now. No more dual booting. Just call up and load Windows in a window.

New processors (Intel & AMD) have virtualization technology built in, so an unmodified guest OS' can be installed. But if you don't "need" Windows, Linux Rocks! So go for it.

16 posted on 01/05/2009 9:55:09 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Paradox

Oh, BTW the “Krap” wasn’t to indicate that I didn’t believe you, just frustration that you could get it working and I couldn’t.


17 posted on 01/05/2009 9:55:51 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: John Leland 1789
Worked wonderfully on 1G of RAM and he then upgraded to 3G and the thing really flies.

I just upgraded from 512K RAM to 2GB on a P4 Toshiba running Ubuntu Intrepid, and performance increased nicely. 

The graphics are tremendous!

IMHO Compiz Fusion is the bee's knees.

18 posted on 01/05/2009 9:56:59 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Still Thinking
Oh, BTW the “Krap” wasn’t to indicate that I didn’t believe you, just frustration that you could get it working and I couldn’t.

Yeah, I figured that out. Well I was somewhat surprised. I had gotten into Linux about 6 years ago, and back then, because I liked doing things the hard(er) way, I got into Gentoo Linux. Compiled from the ground up, three systems, and never got them running quite perfectly. They were fast though and usable. Got away from Linux, then decided to see if they had caught up in installation ease. Mandrake didn't fly, but Ubuntu was flawless for me on two machines that even Windows had problems installing on.

Sorry it didn't work out for you! Truth is, I am still using Windows XP for my computing. It works for me.

19 posted on 01/05/2009 10:17:55 AM PST by Paradox (When the left have no one to villainize, they'll turn on each other.)
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To: Paradox

I’ve been pretty happy with Sabayon...which is a full Boat Gentoo based system....just download via torrent ....runs great on my 9500 phenom quad...no idea of how it works on a Laptop....though.


20 posted on 01/05/2009 10:39:54 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: martin_fierro

I refuse to use any distro that doesn’t have compize set up for me....Linux Mint and Sabayon ...are my choice.


21 posted on 01/05/2009 10:41:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Still Thinking
Basic philosophy....No man should have to wait on a computer....to keep up...
22 posted on 01/05/2009 10:43:04 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All
Useful Link:

Consumer Electronics Resources
Consumer Electronics Show (CES)
in Las Vegas, NV

23 posted on 01/05/2009 10:46:30 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yeah, I was just kidding about the typing. I do a lot of other stuff where the extra speed relieves a lot of frustration and boredom.


24 posted on 01/05/2009 10:48:40 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: PreciousLiberty
The new AMD CPUs look promising though, competition is always good.

Yes, considering that most of the features making current Intel chips great were pioneered by AMD.

25 posted on 01/05/2009 10:51:39 AM PST by js1138
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This may be more useful than the Link just above:

http://ces.cnet.com/

Warning....slow download.....of streaming....

26 posted on 01/05/2009 10:57:27 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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This is interesting:

Freescale chip aims at 1GHz, $199 Netbook

Freescale Semiconductor is expected to launch new silicon for Netbooks--devices that it believes will come in below $200--at the Consumer Electronics Show this week in Las Vegas.

The ARM chip architecture-based i.MX51 processor is designed to enable "low-power, gigahertz performance netbooks at sub-$200 price points," according to Freescale, formerly Motorola's chipmaking arm.

27 posted on 01/05/2009 11:03:11 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All
And we have this:

December 15, 2008 7:52 AM PST
CES 2009 preview: Computers and hardware

28 posted on 01/05/2009 11:11:27 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All
From Newegg:

Shanghai Processors currently available....socket F

29 posted on 01/05/2009 11:33:55 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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