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More lion sightings in north Boulder
Daily Camera ^ | January 6, 2009 | Vanessa Miller

Posted on 01/06/2009 10:02:25 PM PST by george76

Near a northwest Boulder home early Tuesday, wildlife officers fired non-lethal bean bags at an adult mountain lion that was feeding on a deer carcass -- adding to the growing list of sightings and animal attacks in the neighborhood in recent weeks.

A woman had her Jack Russell terrier taken by a lion Dec. 24 outside her home ... residents down the road have reported a family of lions drinking at their backyard pond; and Colorado Division of Wildlife officers have fielded several reports of sightings in the neighborhood.

Tuesday, they found two animal carcasses within a few blocks.

"People in the neighborhood are pretty aware," said Larry Rogstad, an area wildlife manager with the Division of Wildlife. "This is prime lion habitat, and it's also prime human habitat."

But Lisa Kaplan, whose dog Stella was killed by a lion Christmas Eve, said the Division of Wildlife isn't doing enough to keep the community safe.

"There is no notification," said Kaplan, who lives a few blocks from Tuesday's lion sighting and didn't know anything about it. "Why don't I know that a lion is eating something three blocks from my house?"

Kaplan said she planned to make her own signs warning of an "actively hunting" lion in the neighborhood, but she changed her mind after meeting with wildlife officers who asked her not to urge more calls.

"Basically they said there's nothing they can do," she said. "They get calls daily in Boulder, and they can't follow up on all of them."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycamera.com ...


TOPICS: Food; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Society
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; armedcitizen; colorado; cougar; esa; jackrussell; lion; mountainlion; mountainlions; wildlife

1 posted on 01/06/2009 10:02:26 PM PST by george76
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To: jazusamo; proud_yank; girlangler; MtnClimber; rellimpank; jan in Colorado; Trteamer; ...

The Division of Wildlife said there’s nothing they can do


2 posted on 01/06/2009 10:06:41 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Go hunting.


3 posted on 01/06/2009 10:07:43 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

In Boulder, they rather carry your remains in a body bag than allow you to hurt anything ‘wild’ regardless of its intentions.


4 posted on 01/06/2009 10:10:52 PM PST by elpinta (Insured by Walther, Glock, Smith & Wesson. Protected with 7.62 & 12 ga.)
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To: george76

You see a cat inside city limits when multiple domestic animals have been taken? There are children in the area who are less able to take care of themselves. PC my butt take him out and be done with it.


5 posted on 01/06/2009 10:11:19 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: elpinta

That’s right. The People’s Republic of Boulder is as looney as a deranged idiot. They can have it.


6 posted on 01/06/2009 10:13:40 PM PST by unkus
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

multiple domestic animals / partners...


7 posted on 01/06/2009 10:24:50 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
ahh, but were the domestic partners consenting?
8 posted on 01/06/2009 10:28:17 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: george76

Jennifer and the DOW should throw away their beanbag guns and use real ones, they’ll discover there is something they can do, being they won’t do it the residents should.


9 posted on 01/06/2009 10:36:31 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

You’re not going to be done with anything, really, though. Coyotes are pervasive throughtout the west. They’re definitely going to be taking pets that are left outside. Mountain lions will do the same thing. Maltese and Shih-tzus are not exactly difficult meals.

I guess it depends on how densely the area is populated. Hunting them to thin the population is generally a good idea. It also reinstalls a fear of man in them, which a bunch of urbanite idiots can’t seem to comprehend. The Californians who moved to Colorado will raise chaos if someone starts shooting coyotes, for instance.


10 posted on 01/06/2009 10:44:36 PM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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To: george76

“Basically they said there’s nothing they can do,” she said. “They get calls daily in Boulder, and they can’t follow up on all of them.”

Wrong!

What the animal rights cases in uniform can, but refuse to do, is tell the citizens the truth - that they already have the right to kill any animal threatening their pets, livestock, children, or themselves.

If the Libtards, PETards, ad nauseam in Boulder had read more of American history instead of the socialism impaired drivel from assorted, sordid, members of such GangGreen groups as PETA, Audubon, Sierra Club, they might realize why the Department of Wildlife was lying to they, and deliberately creating a risk to human health and safety.

The DOW refusal to kill sufficient cougar to re-instill the fear of man in America’s cougars, bears, and wolves, (which gunpowder had previously taught to America’s large bodied predators) arguably goes beyond actionable negligence and dives into the pool of unending cess called ‘sociopathy’.


11 posted on 01/06/2009 10:48:47 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles, When you walk around wi)
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To: jazusamo

Jennifer and her PETA friends are going to get someone killed.


12 posted on 01/06/2009 10:51:54 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: GladesGuru

The elimination of the Spring bear hunting season and the DOW intrusion on legal lion hunting has created a big mess.

It will get even worse soon.


13 posted on 01/06/2009 10:53:55 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

What they need is some alligators! Why don’t they move their crybaby butts back to the big city?


14 posted on 01/06/2009 10:56:53 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

I wonder what will happen if the lion does get a child......will they be able to kill it then?


15 posted on 01/06/2009 10:57:46 PM PST by tioga (Rejoice, our Savior is born.)
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To: george76
Jennifer and her PETA friends are going to get someone killed.

I think you're right and sadly it'll probably be a kid. They've had this problem in Boulder for too long, the DOW better do something.

16 posted on 01/06/2009 11:02:37 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: CaspersGh0sts
Maltese and Shih-tzus are not exactly difficult meals.

Sounds to me that the lions are providing a community service.

17 posted on 01/06/2009 11:05:51 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

I am firing up the popcorn...you are about to be roasted! LOL


18 posted on 01/06/2009 11:07:53 PM PST by tioga (Rejoice, our Savior is born.)
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To: tioga

I was thinking the same thing. How many kids does a lion have to eat before we rediscover that it’s a predator?


19 posted on 01/07/2009 12:42:19 AM PST by Hi Heels (Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
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To: tioga

Only if they sedate it, check the stomach contents, and prove that it is the animal that killed a child. All on the taxpayer’s dime of course. If it’s not the guilty one, repeat as necessary.


20 posted on 01/07/2009 12:43:52 AM PST by BruceysMom ("Where knowledge is folly...")
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To: george76
The Division of Wildlife said there’s nothing they can do

Because there are too many PC treehuggers on the board.

21 posted on 01/07/2009 2:41:45 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: george76

Is this an mass exit from Yellowstone? Animals know something we don’t?


22 posted on 01/07/2009 5:16:52 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: Hoosier-Daddy; All

Yeah, people and their “need” for more and more land are not a part of the problem. Give me a break.

I am on the animals side and am one of the few here who will come out and say it. I am an NRA member and a vegetarian, but may of you give gun owners a bad name.


23 posted on 01/07/2009 5:28:59 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Yeah, people and their “need” for more and more land are not a part of the problem. Give me a break.

When there are fires or extremely bad weather, all the animals go to lower elevations and/or human populations because the pickings are better there.
24 posted on 01/07/2009 5:31:44 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan

But the problem is more likely to be people encroaching on their territorial home. I see it here in PA and it is no different elsewhere.

I hope the housing debacle slows it down, as open spaces, and the wildlife which live in them, are a great part of what make this country great.


25 posted on 01/07/2009 5:34:23 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Guns don't kill people; abortion clinics do.)
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To: autumnraine

Is this an mass exit from Yellowstone? Animals know something we don’t?

Boulder is just outside of Denver CO. Yellowstone is in NW Wyoming.


26 posted on 01/07/2009 5:39:49 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Red in Blue PA

As a matter of historic fact, cougar killed only three people in some 80 years in all of America. After the animal rights /commies got the “endangered species’ concept abused so that a mere law was able to trump the American Constitutional guarantee of the right to self defense, then and only then, did cougars began killing people.

Read what the first Roosevelt Naturalist at Yellowstone Park wrote in his book, The Yellowstone Nature Book. Writing of predators, on page 109, “they have learned to their bitter cost, that nearly every man and boy carries a rifle”.

That NatureNazi in the nice uniform at the “Open Space Park” is a Constitutional violator, in that he enforces your being disarmed when you enter the park. As the nice sige in the cutsy roofed bulletin board says, “ACHTUNG ! ! OPEN CARRY IST VERBOTEN! ! !”

Sorry, the above should have been “OPEN CARRY IS PROHIBITED”. I must have been momentarily possessed by some ghost from the Third Reich. ;-)

Consider, if you actually like animals, that predators leave “wilderness areas” and prefer living near people. Why, you ask? Because that is where all those yummy pets, livestock, and kids/older people are.

Still think you want to allow predators to kill and eat people? Removing American’s right to be at all times armed (Jefferson) does, always, reduce some innocent human to cougar scat.


27 posted on 01/07/2009 6:12:16 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles, When you walk around wi)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“But the problem is more likely to be people encroaching on their territorial home. I see it here in PA and it is no different elsewhere.
I hope the housing debacle slows it down, as open spaces, and the wildlife which live in them, are a great part of what make this country great.”

Then let me ask you a very difficult question:
What do you think of “zero population growth”, and of others who warn about the dangers of “overpopulation”?

- John


28 posted on 01/07/2009 7:40:32 AM PST by Fishrrman
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To: Red in Blue PA

Friend, when I was born the US population was around 135 million and it’s a shade over 300 million now. Just where do you suggest the increased population are supposed to live?

Being an NRA member and vegetarian doesn’t seem to have given you a lot of common sense. As our population has increased so have the number of animal rights activists. In CA the cougar was protected by ballot initiative in the early 90’s by those animal rights activists playing to the emotions of the electorate.

In areas that were built up in the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s in So CA they are now having mountain lion encounters between them and humans and their pets. The lions have lost their fear of man due to the lions over population and being forced to live in close proximity to man.

I believe if the mountain lions causing problems around Boulder, CO were thinned it would help instill the fear of man in the remaining ones. I also believe it’s worth a try because shooting beanbags at lions and/or ignoring the problem like the CO DOW has done is going to get someone killed.


29 posted on 01/07/2009 8:33:16 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

>> ... if the mountain lions causing problems around Boulder, CO were thinned it would help instill the fear of man in the remaining ones.

No, “thinning” would not do it. Here’s what would - preschool. “Mr. Kitty, the lesson for today is STFAFH” (Stay the F**k away from Humans).

1/ Capture Mr. Kitty with muscle immobilizing dart. Do NOT tranquilize.
2/ Traumatize: Yell, beat with boards and tire irons, fire pistols, sear skin with blowtorches, display Sierra Club photos, etc. Broken ribs are an added plus - they are a gift that keeps on giving. (I know.)
3/ Truck Mr. Kitty up into the hills; unceremoniously dump him off. Hope that he doesn’t return.
4/ If he returns, he is shot on sight. The carcass is dragged to an isolated spot. After a quick autopsy, all members present urinate and defecate on the remains and depart. Message to other cats: beware; the two-legged animal is the top predator.


30 posted on 01/07/2009 11:08:15 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: QBFimi

I hear you! Of course it would give the AR activists coronaries. :)


31 posted on 01/07/2009 11:18:58 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I hear you! Of course it would give the AR activists coronaries. :)

As QB said, The Gift that keeps on giving.

;-)

Humor aside, the sad reality is that a small boy was walking, holding his daddy’s hand when he was ripped out of Dad’s hand by a cougar.

That occurred above Boulder, and there were several adults walking together when it happened.

BAD KITTY!

Enviro whacko types like Abbey who said “It isn’t wilderness if there isn’t something out there that can kill and eat you.” Give or take a few words, and you have all too many of the DOW employees, not to forget nearly all Boulderites.

What IS it in the water that causes city wide attacks of Boulder Dementia Syndrome? ;-(


32 posted on 01/07/2009 1:04:10 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles, When you walk around wi)
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To: GladesGuru

You’re correct, there’s no humor involved when it comes to an encounter between a cougar and human, especially if it’s a child.

For the people who want to remind everyone that cougar attacks on humans are rare only shows their ignorance because for those humans that have been killed or maimed the attack was not rare, it was a 100% chance of attack.

Fortunately many of the F & G Depts in Western states are aware of it and take lethal action against predators that cause problems. Unfortunately CO is not one of them and CA runs a close second in not dealing with problem animals. I have to believe these Depts are getting more and more employees that are AR activists.


33 posted on 01/07/2009 2:14:20 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: george76

The law in the city of Boulder is that in order to carry a gun from your house to your car it must be in a gun case. On the gun case must be the word “GUN” clearly legible.

Screw Boulder and all the commies that live there. They deserve what they get.


34 posted on 01/07/2009 5:48:40 PM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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