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Touch Screen Gadgets Alienate Blind
Reuters ^ | 1/8/09 | Sinead Carew

Posted on 01/09/2009 3:18:27 PM PST by gridlock

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The craze for touch-screen gadgets, sparked by Apple Inc's popular iPhone, is raising worries that a whole generation of consumer electronics will be out of the reach of the blind.

Motown icon Stevie Wonder and other advocates came to the world's biggest gadget fest, the annual Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week, to convince vendors to consider the needs of the blind.

Wonder told a CES event that his wishlist included a car he could drive -- which he acknowledged was probably "a ways away" -- and a Sirius XM satellite radio he could operate.

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"We don't want to hold up technological progress," he said. "What we're saying is, think about the interface and set it up in such a way that it's simple .... The simpler you make the user interface of a product, it's going to reach more people sighted or blind."

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Some manufacturers could use their production facilities to make such devices, as demand weakens for more mainstream products in the economic downturn, he said.

"I think in general there may be a view that accessibility may be becoming the new green," said Starling.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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Designers will always design for 99% of the market. This is like putting braille instructions on the drive-thru ATM machines.
1 posted on 01/09/2009 3:18:28 PM PST by gridlock
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To: gridlock

Like music alienates the deaf...


2 posted on 01/09/2009 3:19:21 PM PST by RightResponse (It depends on what the defamation of Islam is .....)
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To: gridlock

Braille instructions are on drive-thru ATM machines because the manufactures of those fronts only build a few designs that all have braille.

Simplifies inventory and the keeping of spares.


3 posted on 01/09/2009 3:21:18 PM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: gridlock
Touch Screen Gadgets Alienate Blind

So?

4 posted on 01/09/2009 3:22:37 PM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: gridlock

May have to rename it as the eyePhone.


5 posted on 01/09/2009 3:22:44 PM PST by newheart (Obama. We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: gridlock

I really love you Stevie, but GMAFB. At 5’3” I can’t reach a basketball hoop or play linebacker, and I’m not whining about it. Nor can I play piano or guitar worth a damn, so I photograph musicians instead. Adapt - as you have done - and pipe down. *Shrug* *Sigh*


6 posted on 01/09/2009 3:23:26 PM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

Dear Gridlock.

What a wonderful, commonsense solution.

If you don’t mind, I’m saving this to my “famous Quotes” file and plan to use it liberally — no pun intended.


7 posted on 01/09/2009 3:27:03 PM PST by plangent
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To: gridlock

Oh for Pete’s sake!


8 posted on 01/09/2009 3:27:04 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: gridlock

Who cares?


9 posted on 01/09/2009 3:28:16 PM PST by MNReaganite (Bobby Jindal for President)
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To: gridlock

Just because its called an iPod does not mean all eyes can see it. It is a mean-spirited name and Stevie Wonder has a valid, victimized point. < /sarcasm>


10 posted on 01/09/2009 3:28:34 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: lefty-lie-spy
Some one should tell Feliciano and Jeff Healey. Didn't hurt there playing ability to much.
11 posted on 01/09/2009 3:29:01 PM PST by JimC214
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To: lefty-lie-spy

Dear Gridlock

I hope you don’t mind, but it was Lefty-lie-spy that inspired my response. I’ll use lefty’s also.


12 posted on 01/09/2009 3:30:04 PM PST by plangent
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To: gridlock
Everybody stop telling them about these things.

And don't read this post out loud, or they'll know what we're up to.

13 posted on 01/09/2009 3:30:35 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: newheart

Not eyePhone. C-ing-iPhone


14 posted on 01/09/2009 3:31:45 PM PST by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: plangent; gridlock
"If you don’t mind, I’m saving this to my “famous Quotes” file and plan to use it liberally — no pun intended."

You realize there are Braille characters on the buttons of drive-up ATMs, don't you? I've seen 'em with my own eyes... assuming it's not politically incorrect to say such a thing. My apologies to anyone offended!
15 posted on 01/09/2009 3:33:17 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([In the primaries, vote "FOR". In the general, vote "AGAINST". ...See? Easy.])
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To: lefty-lie-spy; newheart
You have no clue and what hard hearted jerks!
My grandson was injured 2 years ago. He is left brain injured and blind.
You do not have to spend a lot to make products blind-friendly.
I take care of him (29yo), and it is hard and frustrating.
It would take too long to tell you how hard it is, and how we try to cope.
A cell phone, ipod, xm radio would be so nice for him.
I found a portable CD player, that is simple and buy audio books.
He wanted an xm radio, but looked into them, and so far, would be a waste of money, or I would have to be the one operating it for him,
As stated, you have no clue!
16 posted on 01/09/2009 3:35:01 PM PST by rose
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To: gridlock

Television and movies alienate the blind.


17 posted on 01/09/2009 3:35:13 PM PST by dr_who
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To: gridlock
Liberal "Victims" and Their Assault on America. It gets old.


18 posted on 01/09/2009 3:35:21 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: gridlock

The drive-thru ATMs at Wells Fargo have braille. WTF?


19 posted on 01/09/2009 3:35:28 PM PST by lormand (...somewhere in Illinois, a village has lost it's marxist community organizer.)
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To: gridlock

Automobiles alienate the blind.


20 posted on 01/09/2009 3:35:39 PM PST by dr_who
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To: gridlock

Last but not least, newspapers alienate the blind. And they have long alienated alot of people here who have their eyes wide open.


21 posted on 01/09/2009 3:36:52 PM PST by dr_who
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To: DevNet

Braille instructions are on ATMs because they have to be—it’s the law.


22 posted on 01/09/2009 3:37:29 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: gridlock

aofk adfd[vc!


23 posted on 01/09/2009 3:37:47 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (President Bush has let me down! Palin in 2012!)
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To: gridlock
Nonsense like this alienates the intelligent. So blind people will have to settle for last year's keyboard driven devices...pooh pooh.
24 posted on 01/09/2009 3:41:25 PM PST by JrsyJack (Oh dem golden slippers!!)
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To: gridlock

Sign language alienates the blind.


25 posted on 01/09/2009 3:49:17 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: gridlock

Books on quantum physics alienate me.


26 posted on 01/09/2009 3:50:50 PM PST by cydcharisse
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To: rose

Um, you might not be aware of technological advances these days, but there are these cool things called “preset buttons” that allow anyone to punch a button and automatically tune to a radio station (or “scan” if the presets are not yet tuned). Also, most cellphones these days come outfitted with voice commands. All your grandson would have to do is flip up his cellphone, say, “Call Grandma,” and the phone would automatically connect with your number. Neat, huh? Blind-friendly products abound.


27 posted on 01/09/2009 3:56:42 PM PST by shezza (A government that gives you everything you want can take away everything you have.)
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To: shezza

There are a few products, but no they do not abound. The services for the cell phone are expensive, I have looked into it.
I am still looking and I will find what I am lookng for.
The point I was making, the products I mentioned, I was expressing how nice it would be if they were more accessable to the blind.
And the attitude of comments are callous, heartless, and cold.
As stated, he lives with me, I know how hard it is.

I dare you to try a day of being blind. Blind fold yourself and try all your products out, shower dress, cook, clean or whatever. Find out how it feels to have no eyes. You have yours and God, be thankful, but don’t be so damned callous toward those who cannot.


28 posted on 01/09/2009 4:07:03 PM PST by rose
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To: rose
You have no clue and what hard hearted jerks! My grandson was injured 2 years ago. He is left brain injured and blind. You do not have to spend a lot to make products blind-friendly. I take care of him (29yo), and it is hard and frustrating. It would take too long to tell you how hard it is, and how we try to cope. A cell phone, ipod, xm radio would be so nice for him. I found a portable CD player, that is simple and buy audio books. He wanted an xm radio, but looked into them, and so far, would be a waste of money, or I would have to be the one operating it for him, As stated, you have no clue!

You can not POSSIBLY have posted this to me on purpose...could you?! You know who your audience is here. I wish you and your grandson well and offer prayers, but this is not the way respond to my humorous post. You have saddened me.
29 posted on 01/09/2009 4:12:47 PM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/)
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To: gridlock
and a Sirius XM satellite radio he could operate.

I operate mine "blind" in the dark using the remote control. The buttons are shaped differntly for different functions, making it very easy to choose presets and change preset banks.

30 posted on 01/09/2009 4:19:11 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: lefty-lie-spy
Humorous, I'm glad you informed me, pardon me for not getting it.

Listen I want no pity or anything. If you had been through the last 2 years, I have, you would understand where I come from.

Every where we go for help, we hit brick walls. The neuro re-hab are not great help in training, they hit a wall because, guess what? He's blind. They do not know how to work with a brain injured and blind person.

And guess what else? If he were just blind, piece of cake for training to lead a blind life. But, here comes the butt monkey, He is brain injured, We do not know how to train a blind and brain injured person.

Cognitive skill and mental problem from brain injury and blind too, is hard, and no one knows how to help him, I am frustrated as hell, and my humor left me.

31 posted on 01/09/2009 4:23:29 PM PST by rose
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To: rose
A cell phone,

I'll call balderdash on that one. I've had a cell phone for several years where after a few minutes of set up, it can be operated by one click on a side button and voice command. As for cost, it was free with a one year plan.

So if he doesn't have a cell phone, its either because he can't afford the monthly payments, or no one wants to spend less than 5 minutes setting it up for him. It's not because hardware isn't available.

As for music, try looking at $20 MP3 players instead of $250 touch screen IPods, and I suspect you'll find something quite usable for playback.

32 posted on 01/09/2009 4:28:15 PM PST by PAR35
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To: rose
Hey, rose, lighten up a little bit, 'kay? Geez-o-pete. I was trying to say that technology that is blind-friendly is readily available and not prohibitively expensive. For example, the voice-command-capable cellphone I use costs me $10 a month (on a family plan) and the phone itself was FREE after rebate. If you have other family members or friends who can add you and your grandson to their phone plan for the "additional phone" cost, it's really quite doable. I have an old CDMA Motorola RAZR, and it's very durable, easy to operate, and as I have mentioned, has the ability to operate on voice command. It will also play mp3s, record voice messages, alert to upcoming appointments in the calendar, double as an alarm clock, and take photos and videos. Some phones can transcribe voice message into text messages, and will read outloud received text messages. All of these capabilities are perfect for the visually impaired.

Once again, the technology is most certainly available. You just have to be willing to pay for it (and no, it isn't always that expensive...some of the phones are free after rebate with a 2-year phone contract, or cheap on ebay for use with a prepaid plan that might only cost you five or ten dollars a month to use). Oh, and I'm not "damned callous" toward the blind. Ha!! If you only knew....

33 posted on 01/09/2009 4:31:23 PM PST by shezza (A government that gives you everything you want can take away everything you have.)
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To: RightResponse

My own eyes, “the very technology alienating the blind”... good grief.


34 posted on 01/09/2009 4:38:35 PM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: rose

Have you seen the cell phones that they make for young kids? They have very big buttons and only have the basic numbers and ‘Talk’. AT&T and Sprint both offer them.


35 posted on 01/09/2009 4:48:36 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: rose

Unfortunately, that’s kind of the way it is when you are disabled.

I’m sure companies don’t want to produce gadgets for disabled people because there isn’t money in it.

It sucks to have a disability in a lot of ways.

(My daughter also has a brain injury. She has a seizure disorder, speech problems, etc. Some people think she is unlucky. I think she is lucky because I know plenty of people that are worse off than her.)


36 posted on 01/09/2009 4:50:14 PM PST by luckystarmom
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Rose,

I can not possibly imagine the trouble and hardship you are going through. I assume you are not in a good position and don't have the background, assistance, or training to take on such a difficult task as caring for a disabled adult (and I have friends who do, and its heart wrenching to watch), so perhaps if you posted an outreach vanity, you will find a majority of people here that are more than willing to offer what ideas and help they can to make life easier for you and your grandson and your family. Help is easily found with the friends we have here.



>>Rose>>Humorous, I'm glad you informed me, pardon me for not getting it. Listen I want no pity or anything. If you had been through the last 2 years, I have, you would understand where I come from. Every where we go for help, we hit brick walls. The neuro re-hab are not great help in training, they hit a wall because, guess what? He's blind. They do not know how to work with a brain injured and blind person. And guess what else? If he were just blind, piece of cake for training to lead a blind life. But, here comes the butt monkey, He is brain injured, We do not know how to train a blind and brain injured person. Cognitive skill and mental problem from brain injury and blind too, is hard, and no one knows how to help him, I am frustrated as hell, and my humor left me.
37 posted on 01/09/2009 4:52:11 PM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/)
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To: rose

I think the doctors, therapists, and educators just don’t know much about brain injuries period!!!!!!!!

When my daughter wasn’t talking, I had one therapist tell me that she was just choosing not to talk. (Just like your grandson is choosing not to see.)

When my daughter starting having severe headaches & behavior problems at a new school that she went to, the principal thought my bad attitude was causing the problems. (She a grand mal seizure and abnormal EEG shortly after that.)

My only suggestion is to break things up into very small steps and repeat it a lot. Work on 1 thing at a time. That’s how we’ve gotten my daughter to do things.


38 posted on 01/09/2009 4:55:10 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

No, No. No offense to you. You are correct.

However, there is a fraction of the handicapped community for which we should be pro-active but, never-the-less, use their handicap at a bludgeon to rage at the rest of the world.

For those inventive companies that do so much for the most of us, there should be an element of discretion in how much of their resources are devoted to the specifically handicapped — and handicaps run a wide spectrum.

I would bet that in most large corporations there are specific departments devoted to coming up with handicapped-friendly versions of their main-stream products. Maybe not immediately with the launch of a new product...but at a point where that new product proves viable.

To insist, on the introduction of a new product that a handicap-friendly alternative version be introuced in tandem is a bludgeon.


39 posted on 01/09/2009 5:06:37 PM PST by plangent
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To: rose
Here are a couple of good products that are available, and competetively priced.

Owasys 22C Screenless Cell Phone.

MP3 Player: VI Player from VI Electronics.

I have a similar cheap MP3 player that I use for the car, because I don't like having to take my eyes off the road to navigate the iPod.

As for Satellite Radio, it seems like the Polk Audio components are the best because they have big buttons and a logical control sequence that is reletively easy to memorize, even on the remote. They don't have any specific blind-friendly features, though.

40 posted on 01/09/2009 5:36:51 PM PST by gridlock (QUESTION AUTHORITY)
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To: rose

Rose,
My deepest sympathies regarding your grandson and I apologize for being insensitive. To tell you the truth my reference to the eyePhone was simply to make the point that it requires vision to use it and in no way to denigrate the blind.

If he can handle the ‘randomness’ of the playlist, I believe the tiny little iPod shuffle would be the ones with the simplest controls. It has no screen to read.


41 posted on 01/09/2009 6:50:18 PM PST by newheart (Obama. We kind of underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: All

I appreciated all your responses, and I apologize for my lack of understanding of you. All of you are smart, good and sensitive people. I will use your help and suggestions with gratitude.
I see through limited eyes and a lot of people have just as many problems and worse too.


42 posted on 01/10/2009 7:03:22 AM PST by rose
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