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Go East, young man? Californians look for the exit (suttle illegals alert)
AP ^ | 01/12/09 | Michael R. Blood

Posted on 01/12/2009 2:10:03 PM PST by lado

Mike Reilly spent his lifetime chasing the California dream. This year he's going to look for it in Colorado.

With a house purchase near Denver in the works, the 38-year-old engineering contractor plans to move his family 1,200 miles away from his home state's lemon groves, sunshine and beaches. For him, years of rising taxes, dead-end schools, unchecked illegal immigration and clogged traffic have robbed the Golden State of its allure.

Is there something left of the California dream?

"If you are a Hollywood actor," Reilly says, "but not for us."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; illegal; mexicans

1 posted on 01/12/2009 2:10:04 PM PST by lado
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To: lado

suttle ??


2 posted on 01/12/2009 2:12:48 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: lado

Beware Colorado. They came to Texas adnd jacked up the prices.


3 posted on 01/12/2009 2:14:28 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: lado
The Golden State and its huge economy — by itself, the eighth-largest in the world...

They keep touting that, but when I was in High School living in California the economy was the world's 6th largest.

4 posted on 01/12/2009 2:14:42 PM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: EggsAckley

Well, they mention it, but they don’t go into it on an in-depth level, like they do for other reasons, as you read the entire article. They won’t just come out and say the reality: people are leaving because the Mexican takeover is almost complete.


5 posted on 01/12/2009 2:15:43 PM PST by lado
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To: lado

They leave CA then they want their new home to be just like CA and they will ruin Colorado. Even more conservative Californians are pretty lib.


6 posted on 01/12/2009 2:16:49 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: lado
I read the article. What it says, although not really wanting to is that liberals, illegals and to some extent those legal immigrants living off the bounty of that state once befitting of a dream is now a nightmare of bills, taxes, unfunded liabilities and debt.

The real problem that California has is that it is entirely, absolutely unwilling to reform. It will tax its real producers until they do what this gentleman is doing - leave. What they are left with are users of others' productivity. It is a death spiral which can only be temporarily forestalled by extreme assistance from Federal Government - ZerO. In the end, the collapse will be the same as if the 'big quake' had come.

7 posted on 01/12/2009 2:18:48 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: wolfcreek

>> Beware Colorado. They came to Texas adnd jacked up the prices.

Hell, they’ve been Californicating Colorado for years now. It started back when I lived there in the 70s.

Now they have a Democrap governor, 2 assclown senators, and they went for The Zero in the presidential sweepstakes.

What was once a conservative semi-paradise is now a cesspool with pretty mountains running through it.


8 posted on 01/12/2009 2:19:20 PM PST by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Nervous Tick

I knew it was. Just trying to get a rise. (I have family and friends who live there)


9 posted on 01/12/2009 2:21:36 PM PST by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: lado

Colorado, it is ruined too, best to pick a no income tax state...Texas still has a chance.


10 posted on 01/12/2009 2:21:37 PM PST by Fred (Obama happens)
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To: Nervous Tick

They’re not gonna be as financially able to influence things as in the past. They’re not gonna be getting the 6-700% realization of profit from their little houses. It just ain’t there. It’s now mainly survival and survival tends to change attitudes about largesse.


11 posted on 01/12/2009 2:21:42 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Frantzie
Even more conservative Californians are pretty lib.

Like the proprietors of this site?

12 posted on 01/12/2009 2:22:40 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Frantzie

Exactly! that’s what they do in NJ too. People leave because of the property taxes yet they fail to connect high property taxes and liberalism. So many in NJ have moved to North Carolina that the state is shifting politically. They should just relocate to another liberal state...........oh I forgot, liberal states cost too much to live in.


13 posted on 01/12/2009 2:24:28 PM PST by Ballygrl
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To: Gaffer

>> They’re not gonna be as financially able to influence things as in the past. They’re not gonna be getting the 6-700% realization of profit from their little houses. It just ain’t there. It’s now mainly survival and survival tends to change attitudes about largesse.

Interesting point. Hope it turns out to be a significant effect.


14 posted on 01/12/2009 2:24:35 PM PST by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Ballygrl

NC is becoming NJ South. :-(


15 posted on 01/12/2009 2:27:56 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: vbmoneyspender

Sorry I should have said some conservative CA are pretty liberal.

Our last two Respublican Presidents were from California. One was a little bit RINO but not the other.


16 posted on 01/12/2009 2:31:08 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie
They leave CA then they want their new home to be just like CA and they will ruin Colorado. Even more conservative Californians are pretty lib.

You don't know what you are talking about. The ones who leave are the ones who CAME here and ruined our great state over the last 20 years. Most of them are from New Jersey and New York and Florida.

As for thinking that conservative Californians are liberal you are way off base. Ask Jim Robinson about his views or me or my wife, or Ronald Reagan or Bob Dornan or Duncan Hunter. It is very, very difficult for a RINO to win a contested primary in California.

(and no, Arnold won an open special election with the votes of Democrats when he first got his leg up into office.)

As a whole, Republicans in California are as conservative as they come for the most part.

17 posted on 01/12/2009 2:31:57 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Liberal Californians are like locusts. I saw first hand what they did to Nevada. They complain about California with its liberal laws, immigration problems, high taxes, and environmental nut-jobs. Then they move to another state(Oregon, Colorado, Nevada, Utah, Washington, etc.) and pass the same exact laws, policies, and legislators who ruined California and expect different results. In the end they have ruined the state they moved to and have to relocate again. Locusts I tell you.

To be sure I've met a lot of decent, hard-working, conservative Californians unfortunately they are outnumbered about five to one.

18 posted on 01/12/2009 2:33:05 PM PST by Alcibiades ("First come smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire"--Roland Deschain)
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To: Frantzie

Just the opposite states like California that are controlled by wacko libs the conservatives in them are more conservative because of it not less. I am sure this is true in places like New Jersey also.


19 posted on 01/12/2009 2:33:49 PM PST by ThomasThomas ( Never mind.........it may go both ways...)
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To: ElkGroveDan

You true blue patriot conservative Californians are heroes.
Lights in a darkened, liberal infested sewer. Weep for California...better yet-— get mad and revolt with what the vermin have done to it.


20 posted on 01/12/2009 2:37:42 PM PST by tflabo
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To: lado

The CA ex pats are flooding in to Westernmost Texas and New Mexico -— and bringing their crappy voting patterns with them.

Stay home, locusts. You made your bed. Don’t ruin ours.


21 posted on 01/12/2009 2:38:28 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: Fred

Texas? We’re full up. Besides Californians wouldn’t like the hurricanes, coral snakes, copperheads, rattle snakes, cottonmouths, alligators, humidity, lack of good sushi bars, mosquitos, lack of mountains, heat, cold - did I mention the snakes and humidity? - lack of surfing, lack of the cultural amenities that Californians are accustomed to such as fung shwei massage parlors, crystal readers, and Rodeo Drive...By the way, did I mention the humidity and the snakes?

Californians, living in Texas is about five times worse than living in Bakersfield. Did I mention the snakes and humidity?

More seriously, I hear that Buffalo, Newark, Camden, New Haven, and Gary are great places to live. Go there and be happy.


22 posted on 01/12/2009 2:39:01 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: lado

My suggestion is go West or South.


23 posted on 01/12/2009 2:39:33 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: lado
. The Golden State and its huge economy — by itself, the eighth-largest in the world — have shown resilience, weathering the aerospace bust, the dot-com crash and an energy crunch in recent years.

The problem is they've about done sucking the life out of California business. There ain't nothing left to give.

24 posted on 01/12/2009 3:01:39 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Barack Obama is a Disney character. His wife - a product of Marvel Comics.)
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To: lado

I escaped from California in 1979 and never looked back.


25 posted on 01/12/2009 3:28:16 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: lado

“They won’t just come out and say the reality: people are leaving because the Mexican takeover is almost complete.”

That’s a fact. California has surrendered to the Mexicans just as Britain has surrendered to the muzz.


26 posted on 01/12/2009 3:29:52 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

“As a whole, Republicans in California are as conservative as they come for the most part.”

That’s all true. Pity they are so outnumbered.


27 posted on 01/12/2009 3:33:07 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: lado
News flash, they are there also and in great numbers.
28 posted on 01/12/2009 3:33:11 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: achilles2000

far aintz........y’all fergot the far aintz.


29 posted on 01/12/2009 4:41:26 PM PST by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Sarajevo

How could I have forgotten the aggressive, venom injecting, ubiquitous, swarming fire ants? By the way, did I mention the snakes and the humidity?

For a Texan, a visit to Bakersfield is what a visit to Carmel, Yosemite, or Sonoma is for a Californian.

Californias, if you must move, avoid Texas. Gary, on the other hand, is nice this time of year.


30 posted on 01/12/2009 5:16:41 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: achilles2000
They can move to balmy Minneapolis. -15 F tonight.

Besides, if they *do* come here, Minnesota will shift to the *right*.

Remember Al Franken?

NO cheers, unfortunately, except for the temperature :-)

31 posted on 01/12/2009 6:14:11 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Frantzie

You’ve never met my wife, my children or myself.

FLip comments are usually wrong. Your comment is flip.


32 posted on 01/12/2009 6:15:43 PM PST by BelegStrongbow (Hypocrisy never bothers the hypocrite)
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To: Alcibiades

They keep trying to do the same thing here in Arizona. But here... we’ve got heat, baby, and they usually wither and leave after just one summer.


33 posted on 01/12/2009 8:47:47 PM PST by ponygirl
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To: lado

We’re still here on the beautiful Central Coast of California. Perfect weather — laid back lifestyle — great for homeschooling Christians — big cities just a couple hours away in any direction. Wouldn’t trade it for the world. We don’t let the government chaos in Sacramento to impact our daily lives. God is good, and very much alive — here in the most gorgeous place on earth...


34 posted on 01/12/2009 8:51:00 PM PST by adopt4Christ (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: ThomasThomas

You are absolutely right. I was born and raised in Cali, and lived their till i was 30. I moved out because of the insane taxes, and the huge influx of hispanics. I lived in the Republican hub of California, Orange County. Cali should be sorry I have left, because I have achieved much more in Florida than I ever did in Cali.

California should be an example for the Country. Excessive government growth to fund social programs is a recipe for disaster. Cali will continue to drive out bright conservative people. I hope all those rich Hollywood people get used to having to pay more taxes to cover for the lazy masses.


35 posted on 01/13/2009 4:30:13 AM PST by ritewingwarrior (Just say No to socialism.)
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To: Frantzie

Illegal immigration has destroyed California and it is coming to your state, if it hasn’t already arrived.


36 posted on 01/14/2009 4:43:58 PM PST by doc
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