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WWII officer who said 'nuts' to Germans dies (Patton Alert)
AP ^ | Jan 12 09 | AP

Posted on 01/13/2009 4:57:12 PM PST by GSP.FAN

NEW YORK - Retired Lt. Gen. Harry W.O. Kinnard, a paratroop officer who suggested the famously defiant answer "Nuts!" to a German demand for surrender during the 1944 Battle of the Bulge, has died. He was 93.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: battleofthebulge; godsgravesglyphs; patton; ww2

RIP.

1 posted on 01/13/2009 4:57:17 PM PST by GSP.FAN
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To: GSP.FAN

Now THAT is a real American.


2 posted on 01/13/2009 4:59:02 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: GSP.FAN

‘A man so eloquent must be rescued.’


3 posted on 01/13/2009 4:59:07 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: SLB

Lt. Gen. Harry W.O. Kinnard, RIP


4 posted on 01/13/2009 4:59:53 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: GSP.FAN

That’s the kind of guy that you want to lead you into battle.


5 posted on 01/13/2009 5:00:41 PM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: indcons

ping


6 posted on 01/13/2009 5:01:32 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: GSP.FAN

I’ve never worn a uniform but that’s my kind of General.


7 posted on 01/13/2009 5:03:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: GSP.FAN

Thank you, Sir, and may God Bless You.


8 posted on 01/13/2009 5:04:01 PM PST by combat_boots ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."Aldous Huxley)
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To: GSP.FAN

9 posted on 01/13/2009 5:05:42 PM PST by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: GSP.FAN

Actually,General Anthony McAuliffe said it. Kinnard repeated it.


10 posted on 01/13/2009 5:05:48 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: GSP.FAN

Actually,General Anthony McAuliffe said it. Kinnard repeated it.


11 posted on 01/13/2009 5:05:54 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: GSP.FAN

God bless his family. One of the Greatest Generation, and another example of why they earned the name.


12 posted on 01/13/2009 5:06:47 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: GSP.FAN

A true hero. Rest in peace my friend. You earned it.


13 posted on 01/13/2009 5:09:58 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: GSP.FAN
'On the way back to the defense line, a U.S. officer explained to the puzzled Germans that "nuts" meant the same thing as "go to hell."'

Not only great fighting men, but willing to help bridge cultural gaps as well!

General, your generation will be sorely missed in the dark days ahead.

14 posted on 01/13/2009 5:10:34 PM PST by ReeseBN38416
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To: PurpleMan

Brig. Gen. Anthony McAuliffe, the 101st’s artillery chief and acting division commander in the absence of Maj. Gen. Maxwell D. Taylor, laughed and remarked, “Us surrender? Aw, nuts,” and then wondered aloud how he should reply.

As recalled later by himself and other witnesses, Kinnard suggested that McAuliffe tell the Germans “what you just said ... nuts.”


15 posted on 01/13/2009 5:11:24 PM PST by GSP.FAN
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To: GSP.FAN

In the summer of 1964, I got my dream job: lifeguard at the Ft. Benning Officer’s Club. But, my father’s transfer to Ft. Bragg put it all at risk. The Kinnard’s came to the rescue and I spent that summer as a house guest. MG Kinnard was then the CG of the 11th Air Assault Division and war was looming. If you have seen Mel Gibson’s movie “We Were Soldiers”, then you know the story.

General Kinnard played golf every Saturday morning and I often caddied when my lifeguard schedule permitted. The foursome was different every week and included other leaders of the division. I learned lots of great bawdy jokes, and also understood what the division was preparing to do. He trained a great division and led them into battle as the 1st Cavalry Division. Many of the things I later did in Vietnam as an aero rifle platoon leader, long range recon platoon leader and rifle company commander were techniques developed by General Kinnard and his 11th Air Assault Division.

He served his country well and I remember him fondly.


16 posted on 01/13/2009 5:17:47 PM PST by centurion316
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To: GSP.FAN

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Kinnard


17 posted on 01/13/2009 5:26:40 PM PST by packrat35 (To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women...)
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To: GSP.FAN

A few years ago, I saw an interview with the German commander who received the reply.

He said they didn’t know what he meant. He thought they were calling them nuts or crazy. Whatever, they knew the answer was not they were going to surrender.


18 posted on 01/13/2009 5:40:06 PM PST by yarddog
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To: GSP.FAN
God Bless.

Join George S. in the heavenly Officer's club and have a drink, and a prayer for US, will you. We need it. Dark times are once again at our shores, and your like are in short supply.

19 posted on 01/13/2009 6:14:08 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: GSP.FAN

Rest easy, General. We’ll take the next watch.

God Bless you and keep you.


20 posted on 01/13/2009 6:15:29 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

BUMP


21 posted on 01/13/2009 6:17:53 PM PST by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: GSP.FAN

I thought it was Gen. McAuliffe that made the statement.


22 posted on 01/13/2009 6:17:54 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Leftist kids say the darndest things!)
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To: centurion316

Great story. Thanks for sharing it, and thank you for your service to our country. God bless.


23 posted on 01/13/2009 6:18:56 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: PubliusMM

What a terrible loss in this day and age when we need more like him, not less. Rest well General, you have our undying gratitude. In our hearts you will live on.


24 posted on 01/13/2009 6:18:56 PM PST by BruceysMom ("Where knowledge is folly...")
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To: Colonial Warrior
Nice post. I concur.
25 posted on 01/13/2009 6:23:16 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Read my reply 11


26 posted on 01/13/2009 6:33:37 PM PST by GSP.FAN
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To: GSP.FAN

Thanks!


27 posted on 01/13/2009 6:40:50 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Leftist kids say the darndest things!)
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To: PurpleMan

“Actually,General Anthony McAuliffe said it. Kinnard repeated it.”

Wasn’t there more to that statement than just the word “nuts?” When I was in Germany during my AF tour there, I thought I’d read somewhere that the full statement was “He’s f***ing nuts.” Anything to that? God bless Gen. Kinnard and all those who stood tall in America’s defense in WWII. A special (and rapidly vanishing) breed of American.

I might add, fellow FReepers, if you’re anywhere near a VA hospital, please take some time to visit the veterans there and thank them for their service. Don’t need to wait until Veterans or Memorial Day to do it; they will greatly appreciate it.


28 posted on 01/13/2009 6:46:33 PM PST by ScottinVA (All I needed to know about islam I learned on 9-11.)
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Always thought the ‘Nuts’ story was fascinating.

Eventually I've read every Battle of the Bulge book I could find.

Can't recall if it was the book series Total War, or one that was written about St. Vith and the surrender of 2 US regiments of the 106th Golden Lyons near there.

I read in one of them that the ‘Nuts’ reply was made up to bolster troop moral because they didn't want Bastogne captured like St. Vith as it would have caused a collapse of the front.

Most roads led in and out of St. Vith and Bastogne.

29 posted on 01/13/2009 7:24:59 PM PST by msnpatriot
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30 posted on 01/13/2009 7:46:44 PM PST by indcons (An eye for an eye; a tooth for a tooth.)
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To: msnpatriot

I have read somewhere, can’t recall at all where, that although Bastogne was something of a transportation hub, the Germans did not consider capturing it a strategic necessity.

They had decided to just bypass it until it got the publicity, then Hitler ordered them to take it.


31 posted on 01/13/2009 7:56:24 PM PST by yarddog
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To: MHGinTN
‘A man so eloquent must be rescued.’

No member of the 101st has ever agreed that the division needed to be rescued.

32 posted on 01/13/2009 9:08:07 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Those were a paraphrase of Patton’s words upon hearing the ‘Nuts’ reply to the German demands.


33 posted on 01/13/2009 9:21:41 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: GSP.FAN

Rest well Soldier, you’ve earned it.
Prayers for your family.


34 posted on 01/13/2009 9:27:30 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: yarddog
A few years ago, I saw an interview with the German commander who received the reply.

He said they didn’t know what he meant. He thought they were calling them nuts or crazy. Whatever, they knew the answer was not they were going to surrender.

"NUTS!" Revisited
An Interview with Lt. General Harry W. O. Kinnard

"I answered, 'Sir, you said "Nuts".'" ...

But then McAuliffe realized that some sort of reply was in order. He pondered for a few minutes and then told the staff, "Well I don't know what to tell them." He then asked the staff what they thought, and I spoke up, saying, "That first remark of yours would be hard to beat." McAuliffe said, "What do you mean?" I answered, "Sir, you said 'Nuts'." All members of the staff enthusiastically agreed, and McAuliffe decided to send that one word, "Nuts!" back to the Germans. McAuliffe then wrote down: "To the German Commander, "Nuts!" The American Commander."

McAuliffe then asked Col. Harper to deliver the message to the Germans. Harper took the typed message back to the company command post where the two German officers were detained. Harper then told the Germans that he had the American commanders reply. The German captain then asked, "Is it written or verbal?" Harper responded that it was written and added, "I will place it in your hand."

nuts.JPG (29361 bytes)

General Anthony McAuliffe
taken on December 27th, 1944

The German major then asked, "Is the reply negative or affirmative? If it is the latter I will negotiate further."

At this time the Germans were acting in an arrogant and patronizing manner and Harper, who was starting to lose his temper, responded, "The reply is decidedly not affirmative." He then added that, "If you continue your foolish attack your losses will be tremendous."

Harper then put the German officers in a jeep and took them back to where the German enlisted men were detained. He then said to the German captain, "If you don't know what 'Nuts' means, in plain English it is the same as 'Go to Hell'. And I'll tell you something else, if you continue to attack we will kill every goddam German that tries to break into this city."

The German major and captain saluted very stiffly. The captain said, "We will kill many Americans. This is war." Harper then responded, "On your way Bud," he then said, "and good luck to you." Harper later told me he always regretted wishing them good luck.


35 posted on 01/13/2009 9:43:51 PM PST by cynwoody
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36 posted on 01/14/2009 4:00:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: indcons

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To: PurpleMan

Read the article.


38 posted on 01/14/2009 7:02:30 PM PST by norton
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To: Colonel_Flagg
"No member of the 101st has ever agreed that the division needed to be rescued."

First:
Airborne!
Second:
The only guy I've known who was there was pretty happy to see friendlies knocking on the door.

39 posted on 01/14/2009 7:31:09 PM PST by norton
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To: yarddog

You are correct — the Germans were trying to capture the Meuse and control the waterway to the North Sea. They didn’t have the supplies for an extended assault to take Bastogne, so they figured they’d bypass the city and take it at their leisure after Bastogne ran out of supplies. Unfortunately for the Germans, they did not count on the efficiency of the American airdrop, the resiliency of the 101st Airborne, nor the determination of Patton and his men to cover 100 km in 3 days.


40 posted on 01/17/2009 7:53:48 PM PST by MikeD (We live in a world where babies are like velveteen rabbits that only become real if they are loved.)
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