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WWII Espionage Secrets Revealed
The Inverness Courier ^ | 16 January, 2009

Posted on 01/16/2009 10:04:12 AM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 01/16/2009 10:04:15 AM PST by nickcarraway
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America Newspapers and Media are all part of the propaganda machine. If you watch the tv media closely, all they do is read from the teleprotor machine. It’s all controlled; even the voting machines. Hitler couldn’t do a better job with the technology they have today.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=why+we+fight&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#


2 posted on 01/16/2009 10:06:34 AM PST by shielagolden
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3 posted on 01/16/2009 10:10:42 AM PST by Hatteras
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“The Enigma machine was taken on by the German military, starting in 1926,” Alexander explained.’

Most don’t realize just how effective the Enigma Machine actually was. Nor do they know it was the primary system, then the primary back up, for the US Submarine Force up through the early 1980’s.

The US Navy version had twelve rotors, as opposed to the German’s original Enigma, which I think had only three.

I know, I rewired em every month for three years between 1978 and 1981.

Way way ahead of its time, which makes the ‘breaking’ of it even more impressive looking back.


4 posted on 01/16/2009 10:13:51 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: nickcarraway

Hogan’s Heroes was based in fact.


5 posted on 01/16/2009 10:20:41 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Badeye

I think the Germany Navy machines had four rotors, and the Wehrmacht/SS machines had three.


6 posted on 01/16/2009 10:22:43 AM PST by NVDave
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Thanks. It took several hours to rewire during ‘end of month’ prep for the Navy’s version. Pretty sure it was discontinued shortly after 1981.


7 posted on 01/16/2009 10:24:54 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Badeye
I thought Colossus was the Forbin Project.
8 posted on 01/16/2009 10:32:03 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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I’m not familiar with it. I just know what I did as a crypto supervisor ‘back in the day’.


9 posted on 01/16/2009 10:40:39 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: shielagolden

Indeed. Goebbels, were he not too busy dealing with the fires of hell, would be extremely jealous, I have no doubt.


11 posted on 01/16/2009 10:59:41 AM PST by EternalVigilance (A dedicated, organized, united conservative movement is the only hope for America - www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: Hatteras

I never had the secret decoder ring, but I had the Secret Squadron jacket patch from Captain Midnight.


12 posted on 01/16/2009 11:10:22 AM PST by riverdawg
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One of the best takes I ever read regarding Enigma and Bletchley Park came from Stephen Ambrose. There has been a great deal of criticism of Eisenhower that goes something like this: If Eisenhower could read the German secret war communications, why didn't he use that to shorten the war?

Said Ambrose: He did.

13 posted on 01/16/2009 11:10:31 AM PST by stevem
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This same ww2 espionage secret has been “revealed” by the media every month for like the last 30 years.


14 posted on 01/16/2009 11:17:16 AM PST by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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As usual the press has it all wrong.

I became a history student, in 1976 after reading Anthony Brown’s “Body Guard of Lies”. It was possible to write about it then, because of the Freedom of Information Act.

For the next 9 years I studied WWII sig/intel. Cryptography is an interesting field. It’s impact on the War was huge.

Lots of good literature in the open for years.

Of course the press does not have a clue.


15 posted on 01/16/2009 11:31:39 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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I started with Paper Tape Punches at Digital. What a mess.


16 posted on 01/16/2009 11:36:53 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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Wow...I was a ‘tape cutter’ out of RM A school at Comsublant back in early 1979. Must be nice today not having to deal with THAT system.


17 posted on 01/16/2009 11:39:51 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: NVDave

Our version used 10 out of 20 rotor set and fir set switched coupled with a mechanical rotor stepping scheme. By 1950’s we used the KLB-47 which used 10 out of 20 rotors and attachable stepping rings. In fact these were commercially sold by Teletype Corp. But they were far more complex in that they included not only the aphabet but also number as several special characters.
The CSp-2900 unit with a skilled person could accommodate a badly garbled message and decode it. That was impossible with the KLB-47.

Everything is digital now and far more complex then the DES standard.


18 posted on 01/16/2009 11:41:34 AM PST by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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for the military history ping list

I’ve found Enigma to be fascinating since Winterbotham’s book, “The Ultra Secret”. It’s a huge part of how we won the war — we were reading their codes and they weren’t reading ours.


19 posted on 01/16/2009 12:33:47 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: indcons

oops, meant you...

for the military history ping list

I’ve found Enigma to be fascinating since Winterbotham’s book, “The Ultra Secret”. It’s a huge part of how we won the war — we were reading their codes and they weren’t reading ours.


20 posted on 01/16/2009 12:34:18 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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