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USB 3.0 will crush eSATA, FireWire ( Alex tells us why )
CNET ^ | January 13, 2009 11:21 AM PST | Alex Serpo

Posted on 01/17/2009 9:21:59 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
OK. New MBs and HW. Bullchit. I built 2 computers based on SCSI-3 with 10 HDs at 15K RPM humming along nice and cool. More memory than the stupidist Obama supporter. How faster can you go?

Anything I do is instantaneous. Milliseconds. And I have spare HDs allready formatted and partioned with the all the programs in the same way for replacements for swap-outs. That has to be done delicately. If only one of those 68 pins has a bad connection - you're screwed to the floor until you find it.

21 posted on 01/17/2009 10:29:10 AM PST by BobS
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To: SJSAMPLE
As a very early adopter of the original USB, I’m amazed that I’ve actually run out of USB ports on my current PC.

Similar here. I have 4-way extension ports plugged into my 4-way extension ports.
22 posted on 01/17/2009 10:36:05 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: miliantnutcase
USB 3.0 FTW!

And solid state hard drives!
And Quad SLI of four 1-gig DDR4 video cards!
And 4GHz quad-core processors!
And 2-gig DDR3 DIMMs for $10 a stick!

Oh wake up, slash!

Hey! I can dream, can't I?

23 posted on 01/17/2009 10:39:45 AM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, he-he, ho-ho!)
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To: martin_fierro

I think that should be X-Rated.


24 posted on 01/17/2009 10:44:13 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

While not related to USB 3.0 - I thought I would ask anyway.

Can anyone recommend a decent Core i7 motherboard?


25 posted on 01/17/2009 10:44:22 AM PST by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

SCSI will be back!

Long live the Syquest 40!

//sarc//


26 posted on 01/17/2009 10:47:14 AM PST by TruthHound (You can keep the "change"!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Why the heck haven’t they moved to fiber optic, yet. Transmission should be up in the Terabits per second by now.

You ever play with fiber optic patch cable.. to fragile for the average consumers... besides you can push gigabit per second over copper right now

27 posted on 01/17/2009 11:08:43 AM PST by tophat9000 ( We are "O" so f---ed)
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To: SamAdams76

Just floppies?

It’s practically made my CD-R/RW obsolete as well.
I’ve got silos of unused CD-R media sitting around.
And now the larger drives are making my DVD-RW less used, as well.

I’m beginning to wonder if physical media will give way to memory devices for nearly every application, including movies.


28 posted on 01/17/2009 11:09:16 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: tophat9000
Why the heck haven’t they moved to fiber optic, yet. Transmission should be up in the Terabits per second by now.

Glass breaks.

29 posted on 01/17/2009 11:46:26 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

30 posted on 01/17/2009 2:29:24 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
USB 3.0 promises a theoretical maximum rate of 5Gbps,

Firewire, it was good to know ye.

31 posted on 01/17/2009 2:50:24 PM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: SJSAMPLE
"I’m beginning to wonder"

A month or so ago Toshiba announced 512Gb SSD. No mention of price, just availability in 2009.

The announcement I read is here but there's not a lot of meat.

32 posted on 01/17/2009 3:11:12 PM PST by Proud_texan (Scare people enough and they'll do anything.)
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To: romanesq

But I’ve been looking for a good firewire capture box to transfer all my betamax videos.


33 posted on 01/17/2009 3:14:39 PM PST by kenth (I got the brain cloudy blues.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I hope they completely re-did the protocols and topology, because that 480 with USB2 is usually quite a bit slower in reality than the lower-specced Firewire 400, and it’s less flexible and puts more load on the system. Remember, USB was designed to be a cheap, low-speed connector. Everything after that was fitting a Porsche turbo engine in a Bug.

IOW, 4.8 Gbps in USB 3 might turn out to be 3 Gbps or less in real life. Firewire 3200 is looking at about 3.2 Gbps real-life throughput and should hit the streets first.

If USB 3 wins, it’ll mainly be because of market forces, not technical merit.


34 posted on 01/17/2009 5:30:35 PM PST by antiRepublicrat ("I am a firm believer that there are not two sides to every issue..." -- Arianna Huffington)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Thanks ,...I didn't know there was a followon to the current Firewire...but Google found this:

December 18, 2007 |
Battle of the data titans: USB 3.0 vs. FireWire 3200

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By Triston McIntyre

USB 3.0 vs. FireWire 3200If you didn’t know, both interfaces USB and FireWire are preparing to release new iterations of their interfaces; Firewire will go “3200″ and USB will move from 2.0 to 3.0. That begs a few questions: what’s so special about the new interfaces and which one is better?

So, its fairly common knowledge that the majority of computer users are much more acquainted with USB than they are FireWire. Somewhere along technology adoption train, someone decided the world needed USB more than FireWire.

And here we are. However, its very important that the masses know the distinction between USB and FireWire, and why USB might not be the only good method for data transfer.

What is USB all about? USB, or Universal Serial Bus, is in everything, and you’ll never be short of a data transfer interface. The current USB 2.0 claims to transfer data at 480 Mbps. Those are the perks.

On the flip side, there’s FireWire. Many common computer users might never see a FireWire cable; professionals and Mac owners tend to be more familiar with the technology. Right now, there are two versions of FireWire in use; FireWire 400 and 800. If you’re catching on to the number scheme by now, you might guess that FireWire 400 transfers at 400 Mbps and 800 transfers at 800 Mbps.

Where’s the difference, aside from speed? FireWire delivers about 97% of the performance it claims, where USB tends to deliver substantially less…maybe half of what it promises. This is mainly because FireWire operates largely on its own, using very little processor power. It runs on a peer 2 peer setup rather than the master to slave setup of USB.

35 posted on 01/17/2009 6:30:01 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
If USB 3 wins, it’ll mainly be because of market forces, not technical merit.

Why not? It worked last time. ;>

36 posted on 01/17/2009 9:10:44 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Somewhere along technology adoption train, someone Microsoft decided the world needed USB more than FireWire.
37 posted on 01/17/2009 9:11:55 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking

Cause Apple liked Firewire...


38 posted on 01/17/2009 9:32:33 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Still Thinking
Somewhere along technology adoption train, someone Microsoft Intel decided the world needed USB more than FireWire.

There, fixed it for you. They push motherboards and chipsets, hence by extension connection standards.

Also, USB is a lot easier to implement for a broad range of peripherals, from slow speed like mice to medium-speed stuff. You'll never see a FireWire mouse. Hence, if you only have one interface - and you want only one to shave costs - USB it is.

39 posted on 01/18/2009 1:52:15 AM PST by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: kenth
But I’ve been looking for a good firewire capture box to transfer all my betamax videos.

This is what I use to transfer my videotapes. It's a little pricey, but works like a charm.

40 posted on 01/18/2009 8:12:14 AM PST by KevinB (John McCain is to the Republican Party as James Taylor is to the the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame)
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