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Bush commutes sentences of former US border agents
AP ^ | 25 minutes ago | By DEB RIECHMANN

Posted on 01/19/2009 10:37:26 AM PST by DBCJR

WASHINGTON (AP) — In his final acts of clemency, President George W. Bush on Monday commuted the prison sentences of two former U.S. Border Patrol agents whose convictions for shooting a Mexican drug dealer ignited fierce debate about illegal immigration.

Bush's decision to commute the sentences of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, who tried to cover up the shooting, was welcomed by both Republican and Democratic members of Congress. They had long argued that the agents were merely doing their jobs, defending the American border against criminals. They also maintained that the more than 10-year prison sentences the pair was given were too harsh.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; borderpatrol; bush; immigrantlist; pardon; ramoscompean
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

President Bush should NEVER have prosecuted them. The prosecutor was specially picked by Bush and this reflects Bush’s desire to “play ball” with the Mexican Government who was calling for action. They saw this as an act to close our borders, i.e., enforce our laws. This was NOT Bush’s finest hour, as reflected in a commutation vs a pardon.


21 posted on 01/19/2009 11:03:02 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: DBCJR
They should have been pardoned. Now they wont be able to get a job at McDonalds because of a felony conviction. The only thing a commutation means is that the government won't have to give them three hots and a cot.

Georgie you come up short again...

22 posted on 01/19/2009 11:05:23 AM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: DBCJR
"A pardon wipes his slate clean. A commutation says they served their sentences, still guilty, still on their record."

I don't know about anybody else, but if I was an employer in that area, I would bend over backwards to see to it that these men had good jobs. The idea that they will be "marked" by their experience and that no one would hire them would only apply if a business owner were a leftist democrat.

23 posted on 01/19/2009 11:06:25 AM PST by redhead (Get ready to step into the Era of Hopey Changeness)
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To: DBCJR

Bush did the right thing. If they had not tried to cover up what they had done and were convicted, they should have been pardoned. As it is, shooting the guy shouldn’t have gotten them fired. Hiding evidence and trying to cover up what they did is not excusable. Commutable, but not pardonable...

Once again, Bush makes the right call.


24 posted on 01/19/2009 11:06:48 AM PST by Hootch (Another perspective)
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To: DBCJR

Great news!!!


25 posted on 01/19/2009 11:09:49 AM PST by Ros42
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To: thackney

Bush surprised me!


26 posted on 01/19/2009 11:10:28 AM PST by Eaker (I am Going to Give B. Hussein O. The Very Same Respect the Media Gave George Bush.)
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To: Eaker

“Bush surprised me!”

I’m not surprised. I was expecting this. Prayers are answered. Thank God.


27 posted on 01/19/2009 11:13:37 AM PST by DaltonNC
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To: DBCJR

But what about Scooter Libby who has been completely screwed over?


28 posted on 01/19/2009 11:15:40 AM PST by aruanan
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To: celtic gal

From what I understand from the article on Fox News, a pardon is typically requested 5 years after the prison term has ended. Since these guys are getting out in March, they’ll have to request a full pardon from President Palin.


29 posted on 01/19/2009 11:17:19 AM PST by Softballmom
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To: DBCJR

Thank you God!

Thank you Mr. President!

Please pray they remain safe until they are out of that place.


30 posted on 01/19/2009 11:20:10 AM PST by jdietz ("There's small Revenge in Words, but Words may be greatly revenged" Ben Franklin)
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To: Eagle Eye

My sentiments exactly.


31 posted on 01/19/2009 11:22:06 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Softballmom

That would be great.

Good news.


32 posted on 01/19/2009 11:23:42 AM PST by Double Tap
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To: DBCJR
Lot of people got their lives ruined by this piece of stupidity.

When "W" was firing prosecutors for being screw-ups he somehow overlooked Sutton.

We won't forget Sutton ~ he's out of politics RIGHT NOW FOREVER.

33 posted on 01/19/2009 11:26:04 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: DBCJR

Wonderful news. :o)

Thank you, President Bush!!!

I knew he’d do it.


34 posted on 01/19/2009 11:28:00 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: Hootch

thank you for the common sense response. :o)


35 posted on 01/19/2009 11:31:09 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: DBCJR

The first time I ever heard about this case, I knew something had gone terribly wrong with the country. Bush’s failure until now to release them merely confirmed my worst suspicions.


36 posted on 01/19/2009 11:31:24 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Tomorrow begins our descent into Hell.)
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To: Softballmom

thanks for that added info!


37 posted on 01/19/2009 11:32:03 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: DBCJR
What? No white envelope pardons? No sudden contributions to the Bush Library? No extended relatives suddenly lobbyists for drug dealers and thieves and terrorists?

Oh, wait, that was Clinton and will be Obama. Well, hide the kids, the moral deviates are back in charge.

38 posted on 01/19/2009 11:33:34 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: DBCJR

An article on Breitbart said it would take about two months for them to be released after this.

Is this true, and if so, why does it take so long?


39 posted on 01/19/2009 11:36:52 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: DBCJR
Unless I'm mistaken this isn't nearly as good as a full pardon.Sounds like Bush is doing things in half measures...as usual.
40 posted on 01/19/2009 11:42:46 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama's worst fear is that the fat Governor will sing!)
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