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No Pardon For Libby
Newsweek ^ | 1-19-09 | Michael Isikoff

Posted on 01/19/2009 6:47:50 PM PST by Justaham

In a move that has keenly disappointed some of his strongest conservative allies, President Bush has decided not to pardon Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, for his 2007 conviction in the CIA leak case, two White House officials said Monday.

On Bush's last full day as president, Bush did commute the sentence of two former Border Patrol agents—Jose Compean and Ignacio Ramos—for shooting a Mexican drug dealer and then lying about it. But White House press spokesman Tony Fratto told NEWSWEEK "you should not expect any more" pardons and commutations from Bush before he leaves office Tuesday. Another senior official, who requested anonymity discussing sensitive matters, confirmed that no more pardons would be granted.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bush; cialeak; isikoff; pardons; scooterlibby; waitforobamas

1 posted on 01/19/2009 6:47:52 PM PST by Justaham
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To: Justaham

My Bush gives Fitzgerald a pat on the back. You’re do’n a great job Fitzy.


2 posted on 01/19/2009 6:49:47 PM PST by DManA
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To: Justaham
No Pardon For Libby

Libby must have been deficient in the sucking up department.

3 posted on 01/19/2009 6:53:32 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Justaham

Scooter’s sentence was commmuted a while ago: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287780,00.html


4 posted on 01/19/2009 6:55:38 PM PST by piytar (Atlas is Shrugging. I am Atlas.)
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To: Justaham

Libby’s sentence was commuted - not pardoned. A pardon totally expunges your record.

I find it incredulous that George Bush did not pardon him. It was clearly politically motivated and the reason the Presidential pardon ability is in the constitution. Bush claimed to honor loyalty only to be void of it himself.


5 posted on 01/19/2009 7:08:49 PM PST by RushingWater (You say Obama - I say Ayers)
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To: Justaham
I think Scooter was pardoned awhile ago...

Newsweak and Isikoff needs to remember REAL history, not just
their made up stuff..... Idiots all

6 posted on 01/19/2009 7:09:26 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude (o)(o)
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To: Justaham

Shame in GW and his underachiever Justice Department for letting this “which” hunt go on.


7 posted on 01/19/2009 7:10:56 PM PST by Baynative ("Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff" - Frank Zappa)
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To: DManA

I’m probably going to get flamed, but I think that President Bush is respecting the Constitutional balance of power by commuting sentences rather than granting pardons.


8 posted on 01/19/2009 7:16:17 PM PST by Paul Heinzman (Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.)
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To: Justaham

But Scooter did not request a pardon. So how could the prez pardon someone who hasn’t requested one?


9 posted on 01/19/2009 7:19:19 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Paul Heinzman

What...What did Clinton do for Marc Rich?....and the FALN terrorists?


10 posted on 01/19/2009 7:20:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: DManA
Under ordinary conditions "W"'s favorite prosecutors ~ Sutton and Fitzgerald ~ would be looking at a very successful career in Republican party politics.

Alas, the way they bungled their cases they'll have to do that without voter support ~ and sure as heck no one wants them mucking around with traditional countryclub Republican trades such as party organization and fund raising.

Instead, these young men have been identified as RINOs to be purged as soon as possible.

11 posted on 01/19/2009 7:22:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Paul Heinzman
There is no "constitutional balance of power" when it comes to pardons. The President's power to pardon is unlimited.

"W"'s just refusing to pardon these men because he screwed up and let them get prosecuted needlessly.

He's too embarrassed to admit it. He will be haunted by that fact until the day he dies.

12 posted on 01/19/2009 7:25:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Justaham
Can you imagine the pardons Obama will make? He might empty the federal prisons. Can he pardon state and local criminals?

Tomorrow is going to be another day that will live in infammy.

13 posted on 01/19/2009 7:30:42 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: Paul Heinzman

Pardons are one of Constitutional powers of the Presidency. The founders gave it to him in the NAME OF BALANCE. He would be disrespecting that balance BY GIVING IT UP.


14 posted on 01/19/2009 7:43:25 PM PST by DManA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Those were pardons, clean slates, and ridiculous. What I was saying was that President Bush respects the rule of law and the separation of power. I don't like that Ramos and Compean didn't get a full pardon, but they're getting out of prison.

They deserve a clean slate, so does Libby. My point is that Bush respects the Constitution and our justice system. They were found guilty by a jury of their peers.

He just figured the punishment did not fit the "crime."

15 posted on 01/19/2009 7:44:08 PM PST by Paul Heinzman (Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.)
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To: muawiyah; DManA
Pardons are one of Constitutional powers of the Presidency. The founders gave it to him in the NAME OF BALANCE. He would be disrespecting that balance BY GIVING IT UP.

There is no "constitutional balance of power" when it comes to pardons. The President's power to pardon is unlimited. "W"'s just refusing to pardon these men because he screwed up and let them get prosecuted needlessly.

Yes, I know that. I also know that he respects our system of justice.

16 posted on 01/19/2009 7:57:49 PM PST by Paul Heinzman (Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.)
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To: Justaham

Bush has been a disappointment in MANY ways. In his first term, he couldn’t find his VETO pen, then he had to have remedial training to learn how to use it.

It’s not surprising that Bush won’t pardon Libby. He probably won’t pardon Ramos and Campeon, either!! I think that 15 years hence, he will wax nostalgic and admit that maybe he should have pardoned those guys.

(Adjusting asbestos undies) Flame away.


17 posted on 01/19/2009 8:04:57 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Justaham

Maybe Bush is afraid to hurt his popularity ratings.


18 posted on 01/19/2009 8:07:51 PM PST by Raster Man
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To: Paul Heinzman
I am sure "W" thought he respected our system of justice, but he screwed up anyway and ended up sending the old Jew to prison and the border patrol guys there too for showing up and doing their jobs.

When you have outcomes like that something may be wrong.

He probably should have prosecuted his father's friend, Colon Powell first, and blown the whistle on the Plame dame himself.

Here's the deal, "W" has a mental block ~ we know he thought the moral thing to do with the illegal visitor problem was to just offer them "a path to citizenship". Alas, the moral thing to do was to assist them in going home as soon as possible ~ certainly this nation has enough buses for that.

The 13th Amendment ABOLISHED SLAVERY and peonage! Yet, the people hiring the illegals were re-establishing both! Certainly didn't respect our fundamental laws all that much to cater to the slavers eh.

19 posted on 01/19/2009 8:11:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Justaham

Bush is VERY stubborn! He is out of touch with citizens! The border agents should have been pardoned! Bush? GRRRR!


20 posted on 01/19/2009 8:13:41 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: lilylangtree
But Scooter did not request a pardon. So how could the prez pardon someone who hasn’t requested one?

No request is necessary. From the Washington D.C. paper The Hill:

Legal experts say a person does not need to request a pardon to receive one from the president.

Margaret Colgate Love, the U.S. pardon attorney from 1990 to 1997, said: “Historically, most people who have been pardoned have asked to be pardoned, but there have been exceptions.”

Love said President Clinton commuted the sentences of Puerto Rican nationalists without receiving requests.

“I understand there were a number of people who were the beneficiaries of final grants who didn’t ask.”

President Clinton also pardoned former Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dan Rostenkowski (D-Ill.) for mail fraud even though the ex-lawmaker did not solicit clemency, according to a media report at the time.

Bush wanted to leave Scooter Libby twisting in the wind. What a disgraceful way for him to end to his presidency.

21 posted on 01/19/2009 8:14:27 PM PST by TChad
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

.........”What...What did Clinton do for Marc Rich?..............

Well, first off, he most certainly serviced his wife, Denise, with the bent ‘Willy’ and with a huge Rich check in his hand, before he reached for her ample ta-ta’s to seal the deal.

Meanwhile, Hillary was looking through Facebook, before she contacted Huma, who continues to be her around the world “aide” as she accends to SOS!


22 posted on 01/19/2009 8:26:10 PM PST by aShepard (Maybe 12/6 is the time to launch a constitutional amendment that lays out POTUS requirements!)
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To: Justaham

This is idiotic, unpatriotic, and wrong.


23 posted on 01/19/2009 8:32:04 PM PST by dodger
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To: Paul Heinzman

WRONGO.

The Constitution (unfortunately) gives the President unfettered power of pardon.


24 posted on 01/19/2009 8:33:32 PM PST by dodger
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To: Paul Heinzman

The pardoning power is a part of our system of justice. Why do you think the founders gave it to the office?


25 posted on 01/20/2009 4:09:26 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

I understand that it is the president’s constitutional power. That wasn’t the point I was trying to make. I was only saying that Bush wasn’t going to override the courts’ decisions, only their sentences. I would’ve liked to see full pardons too. I’m not trying to justify the commutation of their sentences over being pardoned, just trying to understand it.


26 posted on 01/20/2009 5:01:04 AM PST by Paul Heinzman (Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.)
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To: Paul Heinzman

A pardon doesn’t override the court’s decision. A pardon FORGIVES the offense.

The granting of a pardon to a person who has committed a crime or who has been convicted of a crime is an act of clemency, which forgives the wrongdoer and restores the person’s Civil Rights.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/pardon


27 posted on 01/20/2009 7:30:49 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Thanks for clearing that up. I honestly thought a pardon wiped out the court’s decision. I take great pains to identify the gaps of my ignorance and try to fill those gaps, but sometimes I speak before I research.


28 posted on 01/20/2009 4:16:19 PM PST by Paul Heinzman (Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish.)
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