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Cat recovering after arrow removed from its head
KBTV.com ^ | January 23, 2009 | Scott Evans

Posted on 01/25/2009 5:28:39 PM PST by Daffynition

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To: Copernicus; Hacksaw
Update I found:

http://www.kpax.com/Global/story.asp?S=9754833

Emmett boy faces animal cruelty charges
Associated Press
Jan. 29, 2009
1:24 PM ET
Emmett, Idaho (AP) - A 12-year-old southwestern Idaho boy who admitted to shooting at a cat with an arrow has been charged with cruelty to animals.

The Gem County prosecutor says the case will be handled in juvenile court.

The wounded cat was rescued last week and taken to a Garden City veterinarian who removed the arrow, which had lodged in the left eye and was sticking out the back of its head.

The cat is recovering, but lost the eye and hearing in one ear. The boy told police he was trying to scare the cat away from some quail and did not intend to hit it. If the boy was an adult, he'd face a misdemeanor charge of animal cruelty, which carries penalties of up to six months in jail and a $5,000 fine.

Gem County prosecutor Richard Linville says animal cruelty cases aren't uncommon in Idaho, particularly rural counties like Gem County.

Copyright 2009 The Associated Press.

101 posted on 01/30/2009 11:40:47 AM PST by Fawn ("I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you". RR)
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To: Fawn

Can’t lie good enough to be a democrat yet. But he’s working on it.


102 posted on 01/30/2009 11:43:06 AM PST by TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa (For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.)
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To: Fawn
Many thanks.

The classic mistake. They are "plea bargaining" it out to "make it go away".

Bad lawyers make bad law, every single time.

The kid will be in my prayers.

Best regards,

103 posted on 01/31/2009 12:46:55 PM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus

He’s a liar....interesting to know you defend him.


104 posted on 01/31/2009 2:56:45 PM PST by Fawn ("I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you". RR)
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To: Fawn
He’s a liar....interesting to know you defend him.

Since neither of us has information sufficient to make a fully informed decision ad hominem seems particularly inappropriate for anyone interested in objective appraisal.

I formed my conclusions from the same reports available to you and I have outlined those conclusions here.

Of such is intellectually honest debate composed.

Best regards,

105 posted on 02/01/2009 6:40:38 PM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus
The boy told police he was trying to scare the cat away from some quail and did not intend to hit it.

If you believe this, I have a nice lot I'd like to sell you. The kid lied....

106 posted on 02/02/2009 6:37:34 AM PST by Fawn ("I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you". RR)
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To: Fawn
As they say in Texas, any good prosecutor can convict a guilty man, but it takes a GREAT prosecutor to convict an innocent man.

It helps when the jury pool is shaped by the aid of a willing suspension of disbelief of an ignorant press and public.

107 posted on 02/03/2009 6:10:56 AM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus

Skipping the gobbledy goop you just wrote about juries...the kid obviously lied to the police.


108 posted on 02/03/2009 6:41:05 AM PST by Fawn ("I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you". RR)
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To: Daffynition

Warning, Graphic!! ?????

What was graphic about that video??

I think revving up a crisis ideology has rubbed off on a few folks...


109 posted on 02/03/2009 6:52:42 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep

See the editor of KBTV ... not my doing. Besides in deference to some squeamish folksals ... no harm, no foul.


110 posted on 02/03/2009 12:59:47 PM PST by Daffynition ("Beauty is in the sty of the beholder." ~ Joe 6-pack)
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To: Daffynition

No worries mate...

I’m a morbid blood-n-guts kinda guy... and was VERY disappointed!! ;)


111 posted on 02/03/2009 1:08:57 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: sit-rep

Ha! I’ll remember that and ping you, especially if we get a thread started for some good road kill recipes! ;-P


112 posted on 02/03/2009 1:13:59 PM PST by Daffynition ("Beauty is in the sty of the beholder." ~ Joe 6-pack)
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To: Fawn
Citation?
113 posted on 02/03/2009 5:46:29 PM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Fawn
From a Wildlife Control Website in Boise,Idaho:

Feral Cats:

Feral Cats are cats that were once, but are no longer domensticated or were born wild. They are no longer or never were properly socialized to humans. Feral Cats are usually not completely wild because they often depend on some type of co-existance with humans. They can be found scrounging behind restaurants, in garbage cans or dumpsters. Often, they are fed by people but do not receive any other care or socialization that is required for Domestic Cats. They live under decks, sheds or abandoned structures. However you describe these wild or semi-wild Cats, we can help you.

Feral Cats carry diseases and harbor parasites. These parasites are transfered to domestic animals or carried into your home by pets and people. We have seen childrens sandboxes comtaminated and flower beds used as toilets. Their urine is concentrated and foul smelling. They will spray the sides of structures and cars. Their loud fighting and mating vocalizations are annoying and cause loss of sleep. Feral Cats will kill many song birds and other native species, leaving the carcasses strewn about your property. Along with their dead prey and the flies that accompany them, there are ususally dead cats as well.

Without proper control measures, Feral Cat Colonies can become very large. The above mentioned problems then become dramatically compounded. Our Customers know exactly what we're talking about. A small Colony can become a big problem in a relatively short amount of time.

For more information on Feral Cat Control, please examine these informative websites:


114 posted on 02/03/2009 6:10:28 PM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus

Oh brother...you need to update yourself...read my page. BTW-—our state wildlife center tried to legalize shooting outside cats (not just feral since you cant’ tell the difference) and they were caught on tape saying how much fun they would have blowing them away. If you hate cats, you should just stay off the threads and avoid showing your lack of knowledge about them...and don’t post cat hating information from cat hating groups. It’s a waste of time.


115 posted on 02/04/2009 6:17:51 AM PST by Fawn ("I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you". RR)
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To: Fawn
If you hate cats, you should just stay off the threads and avoid showing your lack of knowledge about them...and don’t post cat hating information from cat hating groups. It’s a waste of time.

Methinks you try once again to change the subject.

I have already posted my credentials- we nutured a cat to the incredibly old age of 23. When he died he was in complete possession of his feline mind but suffered from kidney failure.

We also took in a complete stray who was obviously well socialized to human companionship even as a malnurished kitten.

We currently have two 12 year old cats who are in nearly perfect health and upon whom we have spent an unfortunate amount of money including radioactive thyroid treatment for one.

I am far too familar with both sides of the cat debate and I merely press for a rational acknowledgement that not all cats are always adapted for the environment in which they live.

Feral cats are a menace to themselves, to other cats and other species including humans.

It may come as a shock to some people but there are cases where the only solution is to protect your immediate family against the intrusion of outside threats.

In the case of this news report, I suspect this child may have had some ambition in the direction of protection from outside threat. Sadly, he was improperly trained and improperly supervised with tragic consequences which he will have to bear with adult fortitude and strength.

If you wish to have a debate please confine it to the topic at hand. There is no "cat hate" here (which is actually just another form of diversionary ad hominem).

116 posted on 02/04/2009 11:31:13 AM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Copernicus
Sadly, he was improperly trained and improperly supervised with tragic consequences which he will have to bear with adult fortitude and strength.

Yeah...the poor boy is a 'victim'..you just continue to pray for him...

Here are a couple other articles where you can pray for them too... victims everywhere!
D@mn. You just Enjoy...

http://www.katu.com/news/local/38884892.html

http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/039223.html

http://ozarksfirst.com/content/fulltext/?cid=115121

http://www.fox44.net/Global/story.asp?S=9777414

117 posted on 02/04/2009 1:01:06 PM PST by Fawn ("I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you". RR)
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Pray for these poor victims too--I'm sure they all had valid reasons to do what they did....after all animals are just property for Gods sake....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7869309.stm

http://www.bradenton.com/news/breaking_news/story/1203888.html

http://www.wsbt.com/news/local/38874177.html

http://www.fortmilltimes.com/124/story/445229.html

http://www.irontontribune.com/news/2009/feb/03/animal-abuse-case-ends-all-fines-paid/

118 posted on 02/04/2009 1:09:17 PM PST by Fawn ("I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you". RR)
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1. http://www.irontontribune.com/news/2009/feb/03/animal-abuse-case-ends-all-fines-paid/

2. http://www.katu.com/news/local/38884892.html

3. http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/039223.html

4. http://ozarksfirst.com/content/fulltext/?cid=115121

5. http://www.fox44.net/Global/story.asp?S=9777414

6. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7869309.stm

7. http://www.bradenton.com/news/breaking_news/story/1203888.html

8. http://www.wsbt.com/news/local/38874177.html

9. http://www.fortmilltimes.com/124/story/445229.html

Interesting compilation of examples.

#1 Definitely criminal negligence, I assume mitigating circumstances through something like diminished capacity (low IQ?)

119 posted on 02/04/2009 6:25:56 PM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: Fawn
You make my case for me. Every example you provided involved some level of criminal negligence by an adult who had to be pursued in order to be charged.

In the case of our 12 year old, he and his father voluntarily stepped forwarded and offered a reasonable, if flawed, explanation for their conduct.

Apples and oranges.

120 posted on 02/04/2009 6:35:47 PM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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