France Says it Owns Legendary Vessel (Court Case Over 17th Century Ship in Lake Michigan)

The Mining Journal ^ | January 30, 2009 | JOHN FLESHER

[dware]

What say we tell the French to piss off? What are they gonna do, really? Throw a glass of wine at us? Lol. Cheese eating surrender monkeys anyhow.

[absolootezer0]

not to mention the fines for a couple hundred counts of littering.

[sergeantdave]

Governments are pigs. They want to own everything - you, your family, your money, your property.

If you find something of value, keep it. Or sell it.

I found a couple of valuable artifacts with a metal detector years ago. I notified the state. A few days later a fat slob bureaucrat showed up and said he would take the artifacts for display in a state museum. When I stopped at the museum to look at the artifacts, only one was on display. The other was “missing.” The museum claimed it received only one piece.

At that time I was young and foolish. Never asked for a receipt but trusted governmemt to do the right thing. And so started my journey of never trusting so-called government.

And for that insufferable pig of a state attorney general to make a claim on the treasure is not the least surprising. The RINO SOB refuses to file any charges against the politicians and bureaucrats brazenly robbing communities and individuals.

[Little Ray]

I don’t think so... If they think they own it, they can come and get it.

[Cincinna]

Chapeau! to NickCarraway for posting this fascinating story, and to SunkenCiv and ArmyAirCorps for the PING.

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Any experts in Maritime Law here?

[Cincinna]

Chapeau! to NickCarraway for posting this fascinating story, and to SunkenCiv and ArmyAirCorps for the PING.

FRENCH POLITICS AND CULTURE PING LIST. FReepMail ME IF YOU WANT TO JOIN!

Any experts in Maritime Law here?

[Cincinna]

The ship was owned by the French State under the Monarchy of Louis XIV. The State in France is viewed as a continuous entity from Monarchy to Veme Republique.

Would Maritime Law apply to these waters?

I say let whomever will pay to raise it, preserve it, and place a museum around it, claim it.

[Caipirabob]

The claim is based on documents showing the fatal expedition was undertaken on behalf of the French crown...

To echo the sentiment expressed in above posts, the French probably should have thought about this before they cut their heads off...

[nctexan]

Thanks for keeping me on the ping. This is very interesting.

[ScaniaBoy]

Very good and concise recapitulation of the legal affairs surrounding the maritime treasure finds.

One may mention (although it is implicit in your post) that this has very much to to do with greed - greed of the various states/governments. For instance Spain which is so keen to protect its national heritage on international waters, "strangely" enough also claims ownership of the British wreck HMS Sussex that lies off Gibraltar in international waters.

[SES1066]

For instance Spain which is so keen to protect its national heritage on international waters, "strangely" enough also claims ownership of the British wreck HMS Sussex that lies off Gibraltar in international waters.

Anyone who expects consistency from ANY GOVERNMENT in any area OTHER THAN in its own interests is fooling themselves into the mad house! As Machiavelli stated in "The Prince" the Prince / State (The State is I - Sun King Louis of France), the State has only self-interest!

[Mr. Lucky]

That was his point.

[GEC]

I can’t believe my first thought was, “I wonder if it’s anywhere near the Ed
Fits?”

LOL

[SunkenCiv]

Note: this topic is from 2009.

Update:

• Muskegon divers claim to find elusive "Le Griffon" shipwreck

Related topic:

• Wreck hunters plot new expedition to find 17th-century Griffon

[Squawk 8888]

MI ping.

[NYer]

Interesting stuff, ping!