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The Particle Reactor That Creates Mini Black Holes - Jurisdiction?
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Posted on 02/12/2009 9:06:52 AM PST by iThinkBig

For anyone not initially aware, The LHC (Large Hadron Collider) is a particle accelerator located along the French/Swiss Border, being the Largest Man-made machine ever (also the most expensive), it's biggest item for debate has been it's potential risk (even with a low liklihood for such events, catastrophic risk is still there).

The risk to Put it mildly ranges anywhere from Miniature Black Hole creation(which broken down comes down to the verity of Hawking Radiation, and estimated accretion rates, both based purely from theory), The creation of matter destroying strange matter with a positive charge, or a myriad of other postulated, or potential unknowns.

Although media tends to skew one way or the other, a safety movement has risen out of this, Two lawsuits, one by American citizen Walter L. Wagner (an old friend of Frank Wilczek), and other is the EU by Ottoe Roessler, as well as papers done by Plaga, Helfer, et al.

The site source is actually a site that has been debating the issue for some time now, and amassed quite a bit of information, however the one thing I have taken out of all of this, and the crux of this post, and it's debate is this:

Who should have the final say in issues on a global scale such as this? Who even has Jurisdiction if something could be proven within reasonable doubt that this, or some other future experiments with larger margins of potential danger.

For those unaware, the current idea is to place the burden of proof on the company, or group in charge of said experiment, but is that enough?


TOPICS: Astronomy; Dimensional Doorway; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: blackholes; cern; eu; lhc; particlecollider; stringtheory
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To: GonzoGOP
Start printing Zimbabwe type notes. Denominations of 1, 5, and 20 porkuli should get us started right?
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21 posted on 02/12/2009 11:41:13 AM PST by allmost
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To: allmost
Start printing Zimbabwe type notes. Denominations of 1, 5, and 20 porkuli should get us started right?

Sure put Pelosi's face on the P20. The bills would be made out of SillyPutty just like her face.
22 posted on 02/12/2009 11:46:59 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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23 posted on 02/12/2009 3:35:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Dan7878787

Great point. In general, I expect a world war soon if history is any guide. But let me say this: I don’t lose sleep over it and instead, building the tech mechanisms for serious debate and actionable plans for the global online community. Since I speak with citizens all over the planet, I can say we all want a better world and an end to this current crop of failed leadership. The failures were driven by an economic model of debt, also called the Efficient Market Hyposis. That model created a lot of very bad habits in leadership and consumer behavior.


25 posted on 02/16/2009 9:13:06 AM PST by iThinkBig
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To: Dr. Ursus

“They should fire-up this baby on Dec.21st,2012!”

Ahh, right at the end of this era and the beginnings of a new one. Let me tell you something. Expect the real global troubles to begin at that times, turn into world war and be over by 2021. But also, the world does not fully learn at that point and we all don’t start singing Kumbaya. We just will have better opportunity to collaberate on a global scale to BEGIN creating that better era.


26 posted on 02/16/2009 9:15:25 AM PST by iThinkBig
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To: iThinkBig

I saw a deal on TV the other night about it. They expect Black Holes but they are microscopic in size and exist for nanoseconds because of their evaporation rates.


27 posted on 11/08/2009 6:06:38 PM PST by Diggity
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