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Posted on 02/17/2009 4:21:46 AM PST by Perdogg
I download some music this morning and when I removed my USB connector to my Sony MP3 player my computer went dead. I tried a hard boot, but the computer is not booting up.
I am assuming that "she's dead, jim", right? The fan won't start and my zip drive has conniption fits when I start try to start her up. My CD rom won't open either.
Is there any way I can recover the contents of my hard drive? How do I dispose of the computer and get rid of the personal information.
Is this a good computer?
When you say “fan” do you mean the power supply or the fan that cools the CPU?
Sounds simple.....new power supply. One with no dust bunnies !
I bought my computer in November of 2002, I guess it’s time to get a new one, right?
Assuming the hard drive itself is good, once you acquire a replacement, if it’s not a laptop and has room for a second hard drive, you should be able to take the old hard drive and hook it up as a “slave”, and then copy anything you want to from it to the “master” that’s the primary in the replacement computer.
Once that’s done, do a “wipe” (do a search on “disk wipe”, here’s one sample: http://www.cezeo.com/products/disk-redactor/ )on the old drive, then “beat the tar” out of it with a large hammer.
Or, you could just leave the “old” drive installed and point the Windows swap file at it, taking some of the load off the primary drive.
It sounds like it’s a power issue and not a hard drive issue. 2002, you would probably enjoy a new computer and you can get a really good one for a few hundred dollars now. (Dell is under $300 at Walmart) Geek Squad at Best Buy or a computer repair shop should be able to take your hard drive out (let them so you don’t fry it with static, they have the right flooring for that) and move the information and data to your new computer for not a high charge.
The power to the computer is fine. The green light on the back of my computer comes on then goes off.
You can always add the current hard drive as a second hard drive on your new computer. Then read or transfer the information.
Make sure you didn’t pull the power cord loose or something simple like that. Weird things happen. I’ve seen my share.
Get a unit like this one ( there are several makers of them ):
Universal Drive Adapter
Pull your hard drive, hook up the adapter, and borrow a friend’s computer to find & copy your files.
Or, you could get another PC and connect the old HD as a slave or secondary drive, and poke around for your stuff.
Another idea would be to blow out the case ( to get rid of dust ) and try a replacement power supply.
If you desire to replace your 2002 PC which is somewhat elderly, I would make a deal at the local dealer to transfer the data from the old Hard Drive to the new PC for no or minimal charge.
I couldn’t agree more. 64-bit Vista (ANY edition) is a P.O.S.
Most likely a power supply or cabling issue. Check the internal power connection from the power supply to the motherboard, make sure it’s seated properly. Look for a model number on your motherboard and google it.
I had a motherboard that did a similar thing to me, and it turned out that if you unhooked all external connections to it, pulled out all the RAM (except for one piece), then powered up, powered down, replace one item, power up, etc, etc, then it would work fine again.
Weird issues can crop up out of nowhere like that. It happens, unfortunately. And, unlike what some other fools are saying, your OS has nothing to do with it.
If the PC won’t power up (a box fault) then open the case, remove the hard-drive and - when you have brought a new computer - plug it in as a secondary or “slave” hard-drive. You should then be able to read the data fine.
If the PC will power up but it fails to enter Windows (or whatever your operating system is) correctly, probably due to corruption on the hard-drive - then I recommend buying “SPINRITE”. It’s not free, but it is not expensive and it is a superb little application which will serve you well through life. Stick the Spinrite application on a floppy or other bootable media, and use that to cure your hard-drive.
Hope this is helpful.
And also use it to backup the primary drive.
It took years but I have retired all my tape systems. I do backup to multiple external devices (USB and NAS) but I'm all disc backup media finally (old habits die hard).
Odd. My 64-bit Vista Home Premium is outstanding. Far superior to my XP systems.
Depending upon the PC Manufacturer, this is not indicative that the power is fine, it may merely be saying that the AC Power is on. The fact that you do not hear the power supply fan, integral to all PCs except for the Mac Cube types, makes it likely to be Power Supply death, especially given the suddenness of the problem.
yup, agreed w/ that...
It sounds like your power supply blew. It happens. You have a few choices. Get a new PS and install (it's not that hard) in your existing system; buy a new system, (I don't know anything about the brand you inquired about, but the specs look good enough.) and put your old harddrive in there as a second drive; refurbish old system as suggested, but put it into use as a separate data store, or auxiliary system, or give it to your kid (if you have one) to play around on.
Can you hear the fan running when you turn on the PC? When you say the green light comes on then goes off, is that instantly?
The power supply may be fine, but the power cable may be bad. Or, there may be a loose cable within the box itself. To check for a loose cable, unplug the box from the outlet, then open the box. Be careful as you don't want static to discharge, ruining components within the box. As for a power cable, they're inexpensive and any computer store should have them available. That's the first thing I'd try.
Assuming that you do back ups.
Most people don't, until they get burned.
It would be the power supply. It could also be a problem with the motherboard.
If it were the drive that was bad, the machine would still try to start, and you would hear a low grinding type sound as the BIOS tries to communicate with the hard drive.
Can you boot from a CD/DVD drive or 3.5 floppy drive? If so, try putting a bootable disk in and see if the computer boots from the disk. If it won't, then the problem sounds to be the power supply or motherboard.
If that is the case, you (or your technician) can probably reclaim the data on the hard drive to a new computer.
Computers are relatively cheap. Local tech charges $99 minimum to even open a case. New computers from Tigerdirect.com, for example, are as cheap as $299.
I bought my last system without keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc., to save a few $$$$.
Weigh the cost of repair against the cost of a new one.
Did you remove the USB drive from the back or the front of the computer?
Yes, there is a difference. The back one is on the motherboard and the front one is connected to the motherboard. It may be a short.
I run both XP Pro and Vista 64-bit Business. No problems with XP; Vista crashes at least once a day (although it recovers automatically without data loss) and I basically run Office 97 and Open Office on both, nothing too stressful. My Latitude D630 has the innards to supposedly be able to handle 64-bit Vista including 4 G RAM. Never should have ‘upgraded’ from 32-bit Business. I’m very disappointed w/ 64-bit Vista; glad it works OK for you, though.
How do I get a computer without Vista?? Macs are too expensive.
From the front.
Ask for XP. Seriously. I bought 14 HP boxes last week with XP on them. I'll be buying another 50 or so in the next month. All will come pre-loaded with xP.
Join the computer talk!
Will XP support Office 2007?
Open the computer and find where the USB port connects to the motherboard. If it is loose, push it in. If it isn’t, disconnect it.
Make sure you follow the right wire.
Yes. I am running it now.
I prefer Vista 64 though.
If you look closely at the motherboard, it should tell you which connection is the USB. It’s usually in little writing on the board.
thanks, I will probably buy a new computer. I got a ding on my windshield last week and tried to fix it myself. LOL!
I just bought a computer last night on line for my mother. I wanted to get something with limited stuff packed onto the hard drive and ended up going with a model at
100% made in the USA and their support is excellent. I could spend less and get more stuff but I get to start out with a pretty empty hard drive and put MY stuff on it and it will be plenty fast.
Clear fingernail polish.
If you can get the computer to come up, you can get your files into a USB drive.
Your computer needs several different levels of power. It’s quite possible to have one or more of those levels just right but another be really off. Power supplies are notoriously fickle.
Dell online still has them available with XP...
Agree......newer ATX 2.0 power supplies will not supply voltage to the mombo if voltages are not stable to other peripherals. Built in safety feature to keep from smokin’ te mombo.
Here’s the same computer for the same price with more RAM and a bigger hard drive
I would go for something better than 6100 graphics if you could. Radeon 3xxx or ATI 70xx graphics will enable you to do home theatre if you ever decide to do it.
About once a year I disconnect the box, take the cover off, take it on the porch, and approach it - very slowly.
With my Briggs & Stratton blower.
Plug it back in, power it up, verify that all the cards and connectors are seated good, and get back online!
Good question. I think Dell still offers laptops with XP if you specifically request it. You should also be able to locate a LICENSED copy of XP on eBay - read the description carefully though. I’m toying with switching over to Linux but it’s a bear to learn - have yet to locate a really good learning tool for Ubuntu, which I have on an older hard drive. Macs are great if you’re independently wealthy which I most definitely am not.
I would be afraid I was pushing the dust into the fins of the CPU heatsink. I use a vacuum.
Here’s an example of what I meant by graphics
This has a Radeon 3200 graphics processor built in. I was able to play some pretty stout games on this GPU (at low levels) on my kids computer. It should be able to do home theater if you ever decide to go that route.
As others have said, it sounds like your current power supply has left for greener pastures. It's quite possible one or the other voltages(12v/5v)has failed in the supply. This allows some signs of life yet the machine won't start. It probably is time to get a new computer though.
some pc’s won’t start up if the fan isn’t working. if you have pets in the house, or some hair has gotten caught with the dust on the fan blades they may not be turning. try cleaning it out first.
Never used an Acer box, though. Most of my stuff is Asus, Gateway, or Toshiba.
Always had very good luck with the Asus stuff.