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Joni Mitchell - Famous Singer Being Treated for Morgellons
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Posted on 02/23/2009 6:49:57 AM PST by Scythian



The Fiddle and the Drum" remains the primary focus for Mitchell, who's also in the midst of treatments for Morgellons syndrome, an infectious and potentially debilitating skin condition that's put other endeavors on hold for now.

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KEYWORDS: jonimitchell; morgellons
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To: dfwgator

Yes, he is very cool and his music is timeless.

Here is another quote from that Weekly Standard article.

“the Vietnam war is the seemingly unbreakable link that ties Dylan to the left in the popular consciousness. Consider: Dylan wrote no songs about the Vietnam war during the 1960s. Zero. The songs Dylan wrote that antiwar protesters later seized upon (from Blowin’ in the Wind on down) were written when the Vietnam war was little more than a twinkle in John F. Kennedy’s eye. A close study of those songs would also reveal, as Dylan himself has stated in so many words, that they are not “antiwar” songs, as such. Just as with all his best work, they are based upon an almost unerring sense of human nature and a remarkable ability to ask questions that provoke revealing answers in the listener.”


101 posted on 02/23/2009 9:14:44 AM PST by ansel12 ( Am I the only freeper that has been held in an American internment center?)
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To: Scythian; spectre

Thanks for posting/linking. I first became aware of it several years ago from my super-informed friend, Dominic (RIP). IIRC he got his information from Rense. I have seen fascinating/frightening close-up pics/video. I remember at the time thinking/saying, “What the hell is this?”

Life/health/prayer BUMP!


102 posted on 02/23/2009 9:15:09 AM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt
At the onset you literally come unglued and feel as if there are thousands of worms or bugs crawling beneath your skin, I had a lattice of red and blue fibers under my skin, no lesions thank goodness, but Morgellons nonetheless. I had clear salt like grains pouring from my foorhead, it was like glitter all over me, I could see it fall past my eyes from my forhead, I lost much of my hair (but it has regrown), and there were other things, so bizarre I dare not mention. I had a very dark period of dispair for the first year, going down in our basement and weeping beyond anything I had ever done before, how had this plague gotten a hold of me? God where are you, why are you letting this happen, I know with a thought you can remove this from me and so on. The things I cannot mention involving biolumenscense, they were horrible, frightening, I worried for my children, slept on a leather couch for two years downstairs to protect my wife, never, EVER touched or hugged my children to protect them, and sat only in wooded or leather chairs. I now am back in bed with my wife, and to hug the children but very sparingly, that has been the hardest part for me. I debate whether to leave the house for good to protect them. Watch this VIDEO of a guy trying to make his life liveable, it is no joke, it is maddening to the sufferer, what is it? what is in me? its everywhere? and so goes the mind. Nobody is sure what it is, many think a parasite, I personally think they are secondary invaders, as the skins immune system is totally shut down, and you have no idea what your skin is protecting you from, it is a suit of armor, but when it fails, oh boy, you are in for a very miserable life.

Hit this LINK and you will see many folks all over saying my saying my skin is crawling, feels like bugs are all under my skin and they are not on Morgellons forums they are searching for what has gone wrong, frankly, they are better off not knowing for now. Eventually some realize what is is and wind up on forums, most are out there suffering alone, the problem is huge, and alarming.
103 posted on 02/23/2009 9:36:17 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Skip Ripley

coupla other ones....

Carole King
Gordon Lightfoot


104 posted on 02/23/2009 9:37:05 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Scythian

Thanks. Checking back tonight on the video. /to work.

Life/health/prayer BUMP!


105 posted on 02/23/2009 9:40:05 AM PST by PGalt
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To: ansel12

Dylan was a known firend of Stalin stooge Pete Seeger and his pal the Boss..


106 posted on 02/23/2009 9:51:50 AM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: retrokitten
"There are some people who, for whatever reason, I can look past their political beliefs and appreciate their talents, too. But then there are some who are so obnoxious about it that they make it impossible to look past."

Like....Babs Streisand, Julia Roberts, Linda Ronstadt, the Dixie Chicks, etc., etc...... And then, there are others....like Madonna, Chevy Chase, Alec Baldwin, Whoopi Goldberg, that have NO talents except for shooting their ugly mouths off and showing their @ss, their true selves, for all to see. And another thing....if America is to have "communist-style" salary caps on all CEOs' salaries, then let there ALSO be caps on hollyweird actors, on sports celebrities and most especially, on all politicians, while we're at it.

107 posted on 02/23/2009 9:58:02 AM PST by XenaLee
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To: ansel12

That’s exactly right, according to everything I’ve ever heard about Bobby D. The Left was too dumb to know he never was into their garbage, and of course the media just went along with what the dumb lefties said, being for the most part dumb lefties themselves. Of course, being so enigmatic compaired to most famous folks didn’t help matters, but that’s Dylan.

Freegards


108 posted on 02/23/2009 10:01:04 AM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Scythian

I’m surprised no one has mentioned having scraped the lesions, and examined
the particles/threads visually, electron scope, chemically,
and or genetically(if any DNA/RNA) was present. I’m surprised
also that there is no known connnection mentioned between all the
sufferers, common geography, life experience, past illnesses,
water supply, radiation, genetics in parents, and siblings,
(acidosis-tip of the hat to the andromeda strain),medications,
illegal drug use, animal/plant vectors/contact. etc. It is
reported to occur to commonly for there not to be some
type of etiological evidence. I would suppose that it may
be some outworking of brain behaviour(i.e. induction of
hormonal changes or enervation of tissue that could cause
the symptoms.
Any way it turns out to be , may God grant someone the wisdom to
figure this thing out, and/or to heal it. And best wishes
and prayers for you.


109 posted on 02/23/2009 10:02:33 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Frantzie

“Dylan was a known firend of Stalin stooge Pete Seeger and his pal the Boss..”


So you were lying when you labelled Bob Dylan a Stalinist on this thread, people have friends from all walks of life especially artists and entertainers within their own field.

Maybe you can tell us about Ronald Reagan’s friends and associates, I was a part of the radical left world myself but there was never a time when I was not openly conservative, pro Vietnam and Christian.


110 posted on 02/23/2009 10:03:13 AM PST by ansel12 ( Am I the only freeper that has been held in an American internment center?)
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To: ansel12

bump


111 posted on 02/23/2009 10:06:17 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Ransomed

“The Left was too dumb to know he never was into their garbage, and of course the media just went along with what the dumb lefties said, being for the most part dumb lefties themselves. Of course, being so enigmatic compaired to most famous folks didn’t help matters, but that’s Dylan.”


Here is a little more on Dylan.

“While most left-wing Dylan fans have always quickly moved to forgive or forget Dylan’s sins, there are always those who continue to upbraid him. Mike Marqusee, in The Politics of Bob Dylan’s Art (2003), says, “If public life is an ongoing test for the artist, then when it came to Vietnam, Dylan failed.” He also bemoans the “fatalism of the later Dylan”—as if songs that place their hope primarily in the next world’s justice are somehow more “fatalistic” than 1963’s “The Ballad of Hollis Brown.” Earlier this year, in The Nation, Richard Goldstein took Dylan to task for his “sexism” and told us that “the rod of ages he clings to . . . is a phallus.”

On the other hand, there is also a largely unheralded brand of listener who is perceiving a funny thing in Dylan’s latter-day work: Many of his apparently secular songs of romantic love seem to resonate most strongly, and are arguably best understood, as songs of devotion to God. Is Dylan in some sense masking his (always controversial) faith in this (almost blasphemously) sly manner, where “you” often really means “You”?

It does appear clear that our view of Bob Dylan has been constricted by the “a-changin’” times during which he’s worked. And while the music of peers like Young and Springsteen is probably destined for artifact status as the decades pass by, Dylan’s seems likely to continue provoking consideration well into the future. It is also likely that that future belongs to those Dylan listeners who are not so much flummoxed by the enigma of an ever-shifting man of many faces—who supposedly swings back and forth between leftism, conservatism, faith, and nihilism—but instead to those who see a continuum in the precocious 22-year-old who wrote, “How many years can a mountain exist / before it is washed to the sea?” and the at-peace-in-his-own-skin 65-year-old who now sings:

In this earthly domain
Full of disappointment and pain
You’ll never see me frown
I owe my heart to you
And that’s sayin’ it true
And I’ll be with you when the deal goes down.

Posterity is likely to understand that the politics of Dylan’s art has always been on another level entirely.”


112 posted on 02/23/2009 10:13:36 AM PST by ansel12 ( Am I the only freeper that has been held in an American internment center?)
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To: ansel12

Get a life. I will find the actual text where Radosh talks about stalinist Seeger and Dylan.


113 posted on 02/23/2009 10:21:16 AM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Frantzie

You stated that Bob Dylan is a Stalinist and you have not backed it up, yet you won’t let it go or apologize either, it is you that needs to “get a life”.


114 posted on 02/23/2009 10:30:21 AM PST by ansel12 ( Am I the only freeper that has been held in an American internment center?)
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To: Dixiekraut

yes it was Miles of Aisles...

I have looked for a clip of it on YouTube but never found it...


115 posted on 02/23/2009 10:48:53 AM PST by Former MSM Viewer ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." W 2001)
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To: Dixiekraut

yes it was Miles of Aisles...

I have looked for a clip of it on YouTube but never found it...

and if you listened closely, after he said that, someone else said, “You have more class than all 3 of those girls.”

THAT was a funny exchange...


116 posted on 02/23/2009 10:49:44 AM PST by Former MSM Viewer ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." W 2001)
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To: Getready
Some Info
117 posted on 02/23/2009 11:15:40 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Any money this disease turns out to be an auto-immune disorder. Do steroids or anti-malarials work for you at all? Are there ever periods of remission?


118 posted on 02/23/2009 11:25:23 AM PST by Sandy
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To: Sandy

I have done Pharmasuitical grade Artemisinin and other things that are supposed to help Marlaria, I have done a barage of anti-parasiticals, Fenbendazole, Menbendazole, Albendazole, Ivermectin and so on. Things that end in azole are also anti-fungal (aka the Aripazole commericials you see on TV that is really a anti-parasitical, I think they are catching on to disease here in America finally). There are only a handful of real Parasitologists in the US, apparently, the thinking here is Americans are too good to be infested with parasites, and they have very little training and the testing that is done is really quite laughable. In India they can identify nematode infections with a sonagram quite quickly, here the US they basically say human nematode infection is impossible. It’s like saying there’s no Lyme Disease in Nevada yet tons of people are coming down with it in every state in the USA.

We are really in a sad state of affairs right now, heck, even the CDC posted that 1 in 9 children with pets are infected with hookworm, roundwork, and other deadly parasites from thier animals pets yet nothing is being done about it.

But yes, I have done more anti-parasitical stuff than you can imagine, for worms, mites, protozoa ...


119 posted on 02/23/2009 11:46:15 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian
The reason I asked about antimalarial drugs is because they are commonly an effective treatment for lupus, which is an autoimmune disorder. JMHO, but I suggest you ask your doctor about the possibility that your disorder is autoimmune, which means your immune system is attacking your own body. Note, any infections would therefore be merely secondary to the primary autoimmune disease. Prednisone may work wonders, and it's cheaper than dirt. Ask your doctor.
120 posted on 02/23/2009 12:13:50 PM PST by Sandy
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To: Jagman

LOL!


121 posted on 02/23/2009 12:19:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Scythian

Spent a few minutes here - I looked a series of slides where someone removes some of the leisons and burned them with a butane lighter and they seemed to act similarly to fiberglass insulation. I remembered that some sea creatures “grow glass,” which is of interest to the makers of optical fiber. It seems that they have found a rather simple means to grow silica nanotubes using Lanreotide(1):

http://www.medgadget.com/archives/2007/05/how_to_grow_glass_nanotubes_naturally.html

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/116329838/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

Lanreotide is also used as a therapudic agent.

I am not sure where this is going - just some random thoughts, which may help you think about a new way of attacking this beast.


122 posted on 02/23/2009 1:45:24 PM PST by frithguild (Can I drill your head now?)
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To: Scythian

Take it orally a few times a day— just put ten drops or so in a water bottle and swig it as you go along. Use it as a rinse for the lesions, too. See what happens. Worth a try.


123 posted on 02/23/2009 1:49:07 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (1st call: Abbas. 1st interview: Al Arabiya. 1st energy decision: halt drilling in UT. Arabs 1st!)
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To: Scythian

Prayers for her health.


124 posted on 02/23/2009 3:26:29 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: frankenMonkey
One of my favorite artists. (Yes, even if she is a commie pinko hippy canook!)

Exactly what I was going to post, though I'd have spelled it "canuck". :)

125 posted on 02/23/2009 4:10:24 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Scythian

They paved paradise, then allocated 30 billion to pave it again!


126 posted on 02/23/2009 4:12:00 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Scythian

My prayers for you and your family. My prayers for Joni and her family as well. I love her music.


127 posted on 02/23/2009 4:21:11 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: Scythian
I read up on this truly bizarre disease 2 years ago. I googled it and read blogs. I came across a woman's entry who claimed to have found a cure for her type of the disease. It was something along the lines of a bath made up of alfalfa from supplement tablets and a clothing detergent. She had the fiber and dark oil version of the disease and the crap all came out while soaking in the bath. Weird.

I know I found the cure to my back injury pain via FR and the internet -Reverse Osmosis water/no flouride in the diet and the supplement Cetyl-Myristoleate. Scythian, I wish you the best fortune and sincerely hope you find a cure.

128 posted on 02/23/2009 4:25:40 PM PST by Justa (The media lied while Americans died.)
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To: Scythian
I spent some time learning about this disorder today. Looks like a nightmare, especially when physicians have said that it's not real somehow. There are enough images of the fibers that I don't see how anyone can deny it's a real disease.

I wonder if anyone has mass spec-d the fibers to find out their composition.
129 posted on 02/23/2009 4:27:27 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio
PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE, BE CAREFUL, THIS IS A NEWLY EMERGING INFECTIOUS DISEASE, I KNOW THIS FIRST HAND.

VERY WELL DONE MORGELLONS VIDEO
130 posted on 02/23/2009 4:55:26 PM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian

bump for later


131 posted on 02/23/2009 8:09:09 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Scythian; neverdem; nw_arizona_granny; All

Thanks for the links/videos. Thanks to every poster offering suggestions. Fascinating, disturbing, scary.

neverdem & granny Ping! Please read Scythian’s and others posts & view the links if you have time. I do not have a ping list. If you can shed light on this topic or have ping lists to others who can, it would be greatly appreciated. You are the 2 FReepers who come to mind readily that may be able to add to this discussion for your medical expertise and general knowledge. I’m sorry if I missed anyone else.

Thanks.

Life/health/prayer BUMP!


132 posted on 02/23/2009 8:56:09 PM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt

I will post what I have done that I believe has kept me alive, this is a very serious issue, and spreading at what I believe at a pandemic level. I now do only all natural things, the key is to build the immune system, keep the body’s PH level near 7.0, and keep a good level of oxygen in the blood.

I have never told a doctor that I have this condition, never dared mention it, I know people that have been committed against their will, others whom have had thier children removed from them, others whose spouse abandoned them thinking them crazy (some spouse huh?) and so on, it rips families apart, there is something very much not right about this disease. I spend time on forums reaching out to those that I can, trying to keep them from going over the deepend which is a very real possibility at the onset of this disease.

Remember, the #1 releif pitcher in baseball (Billy Koch) was out of baseball in 2 years after coming down with Morgellons and Joni Mitchell has put her career on hold, this is NOT just a skin condition, this is wrecking ball of horror loose in the land, I posted about it on the forums two years ago and all I get was the tin foil jokes, the warning still stands, we are in big trouble.

Everytime I see a story about the bird flu I laugh, they are worried about a non-event while a real pandemic sweeps the land (and they know it). Trust me, I’d take my chances with the bird flu anyday, I bet I’d beat it to, and if I didn’t I would be dead in two weeks, as it is, I live a life full of a kind of sick horror that is truly beyond the comprehension of most individuals.


133 posted on 02/24/2009 6:30:47 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Thanks very much. I am off to work in a couple of minutes. Will be back on tonight.

Life/health/prayer BUMP!


134 posted on 02/24/2009 6:34:56 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Scythian
My prayers for you, Scythian to endure this condition. I don't know what it was that first enticed me years ago as a teenager to buy Joni's Court and Spark album. I was never “in” to that type of music, but something about that album, those songs, and her voice just mesmerized me. Maybe it was her song, “Help Me” or the way she sang “Free Man In Paris”, I don't know why but I can still here those songs in my mind. There's no telling how many times I played that album over the years. It was the only Joni Mitchell album I ever bought. Maybe I need to add it back to my current music library. Thanks for posting this. - OB1
135 posted on 02/24/2009 2:58:09 PM PST by OB1kNOb (Obamunism Sux.)
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To: OB1kNOb

Physician Blasts CDC Over Morgellons

From Dr. Edward Spencer 2-24-9

I am concerned that this will become an epidemic when the economy collapses completely. The universities and medical establishment ignore it.

47 Maria Dr., Suite 811 B
Petaluma, CA 94954
Feb. 22, 2009


To whom it may concern:

Ms. XX was seen in my Petaluma Office. She suffers from a disorder that has been called Morgellons Disease. This is a very debilitating disorder, and no cure is available. Some treatments are available, but their effectiveness is extremely limited.

On January 28, 2009 Morgellons Disease was given a definition and ICD Code:

C17.800.518 by NIH/MeSH Tree Location for Morgellon's Disease.
C 17: Skin and Connective Tissue Disease

ICD Definition:

"An unexplained illness which is characterized by skin manifestations including non healing lesions, itching, and the appearance of fibers. There appears to be a strong association with LYME Disease."

I state unequivocally that the above definition is woefully incomplete and inadequate, and that the CDC and medical establish have been totally negligent in studying this system of disorders, and have provided no treatment, support, or comfort, at all to the patients afflicted. Morgellons is not a problem of "delusions of parasitois."

I will further state that evidence is emerging that this system of disorders (poorly named Morgellons) is in almost everyone, including those who read this letter, but that clinical manifestations are not manifested to a recognizable degree.

In summary Ms. XX is, in my opinion, ill from a system of disorders called Morgellons Disease, and is debilitated to the extent that she cannot work.

Very truly yours,
Edward Spencer, M.D.
Neurology
47 Maria Dr., Suite 811 B
Petaluma, CA 94954

I just came into this information, and myself correspond with some of the researchers, who also agree this is showing itself everywhere at an alarming rate, I wish I could say more but cannot. Anyway, just keep your eyes peeled to news stories about Morgellons.
136 posted on 02/24/2009 5:16:02 PM PST by Scythian
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To: ansel12
You say that Bob Dylan is a Stalinist what is your source?

Bob Dylan may tack mldly to the left but he never advocated it like other leftist musicians. In fact Joan Baez wanted Dylan to be more outspoken on issues but he wouldn't go there..always respected that about him.

137 posted on 02/24/2009 5:30:29 PM PST by tflabo
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To: tflabo; Frantzie

Right and I guess you read posts like #90, the other thing is that being a Stalinist really means something, it doesn’t just mean lefty or commie.

I knew a Stalinist, he was about 80+ and a WWII combat vet, and he knew what Stalin was, what he did and how much of it he did and this guy wanted more of it here in America, he was a disgusting man, worse than the few ex-Nazis that I have known and I wasn’t sad when he died about 3 years ago.


138 posted on 02/24/2009 5:44:02 PM PST by ansel12 ( Am I the only freeper that has been held in an American internment center?)
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To: PGalt

Thanks for the ping. I was looking for pings that I missed. I haven’t read the story yet. The CDC was supposed to set up a task force on Morgellons is what I know.


139 posted on 02/24/2009 10:52:05 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem; Scythian; All

Thanks neverdem. Thanks for the latest post/information from Dr. Edward Spencer, Scythian. Thanks for YOUR first-hand knowledge and for transmitting that knowledge to us. Invaluable.

Life/health/prayer BUMP!


140 posted on 02/25/2009 12:03:40 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Scythian

I thought you had worms?


141 posted on 02/25/2009 12:08:05 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Well, Lancey, that's exactly what it feels like, like worms crawling under your skin, it's most unnerving. I have done all the anti-parasiticals though, they are no cure, my belief is that it is a toxic stew that most resembles a fungus that has come out of either our GMO Pharming in this country or perhaps some of the new pesiticide approaches they are using in spraying and that is really bad news for everyone, because the exposer is tremendous.

There are so many possibilities, a Morgellons sufferer is infested with all kinds of bugs, even fungal knats and things will hatch out of our skin, it's insane, I've beaten that part back however, it no longer happens to me, but we are messing with things and taking big risks, for example:

Thousands Exposed to Poison by Government's Aerial Spraying

The way Checkmate works is by attempting to disrupt the mating habits of the LBAM, by cluster bombing infested cities with billions of miniature time-release plastic microcapsules filled with synthetic moth sex pheromone. The pheromone gives of a scent, which supposedly confuses the male moths who then cannot find the female moths and instead will attempt to mate with other moth's or anything that gives off that pheromone smell.

The aerial application of Checkmate OLR-F and Checkmate LBAM-F are pheremone filled miniature plastic sphere-like particles (microcapsules), generally the same size as the width of a human hair. Each capsule is a biologically "loaded gun" due to its own chemical make-up and that of the pheromones held inside. Research indicates that the capsules are likely made out of a urea-formaldehyde polymer, the industry standard. This is an extremely volatile plastic which, under UV rays, degrades over a time period estimated to be anywhere from 30-90 days. These "agricultural" microcapsules have never been tested safe for humans. Thus, the life of these microcapsules inside our bodies is truly unknown as are the health risks of inhaling or swallowing them. Preliminary research on the microcapsules has revealed that some of them are as small as 10 microns, a size known to be dangerous to humans, with an average capsule size of 25-30 microns. Another investigation suggested that the large capsules may be made up of a cluster of smaller 3-4 micron size capsules, more ....

or
Scientists Link GM Crop Weed Killer to Powerful Fungus


The best approach is to attack it as you would a fungus, the point I am making is that people from all walks of life are coming down with it, and in every state in the union, the exposure is massive, and your current health has nothing to do with coming down with, sometimes and entire family will come down with it with days of each other, and then there are folks like me, the only one in the family that has it. There is a vector, I believe it is man made, but I don't believe it is intentional, just extremely risky behavior from industries with no safety nets and free range to unleash whatever it is they see fit, however, the disaster unfolding is going to be unlike anything you have ever seen, an ecological disaster man has inflicted on himself, most suffering are in hiding, the others aren't even aware yet of what is happening to them. Like I said, search for skin crawling and so on and you'll find posts on forums everywhere from people asking what it could be, I could probably spend a few hours and point you to 1,000 such threads on as many different forums.

The CDC allocated 330k for the study, the price of a small house in California.
142 posted on 02/25/2009 6:49:34 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Thanks again for sharing your fascinating, riveting, story Scythian.

Life/health/prayer BUMP!

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143 posted on 02/25/2009 8:12:23 PM PST by PGalt
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To: JMack

Not really, but many research do think this thing is in the gut, takes up residence there, some have had near cures and amazing recoveries from colonics and colon cleanses, they do certainly help. But again, I think changing your body from Acidic back to Akaline really helps do the trick for the gut. Why is you ask? It’s not guardia and things like that, this is so far beyond what medicine has seen before ...


145 posted on 02/26/2009 9:11:10 AM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian
Just one of the many possibilities ... Notice how we are now adding Misquito genes to plants, this is also true of the crops we eat, they have genes from jellyfish, among other things, and BT and so on ...

See the Body Bugs Video. Something attracks all kinds of bugs to a Morgellons victom, something gets inside our bodies that attracts bugs, and we can find many things that are going on that could be the cause, at the rate it's spreading my guess is it's aerosol spraying ...

I know there is a lot of text below, but basically, something is being sprayed that gets into the human body, replicates, and attracts bugs and worms and insects into our skin, we are like rotting logs, full of fungia, or pherimones that attracts them to us ...

These altered biological control agents/parasites, used as insecticides, have the tobacco mosaic virus added to allow them to become a part of a plant and thus deliver the insecticide to the plant. Some have also added pheromones to attract the insects!!! Since the writing of this article a new ingredient is added, it is know as TMOF, which is a gene from the mosquito itself. This gene triggers a naturally response that inhibits the larva from digesting food, thus after a short time effectively killing the larva.

This parasite is registered with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and several states, including California and Florida Morgellons Hotspots, for use as an operational mosquito control agent. It is currently the only commercially available biological control agent (not including Bacillus thuringiensis var. israelensis, which is a microbial insecticide) for mosquitoes. Besides being host specific, L. giganteum has the ability to recycle for weeks, months, or even years in a given breeding habitat after a single application.


Lagenidium Giganteum

Lagenidium giganteum by James L. Kerwin, Mass Spectrometry Facility, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853-2705

Lagenidium giganteum is a watermold that parasitizes the larval stage of mosquitoes. This microbial parasite belongs to a group of organisms that, although they look like fungi and have a "fungal lifestyle", nonetheless are related to diatoms and brown algae. The infective stage is a motile spore (see below) that goes on a search-and-destroy mission. The basis of its host specificity is selective recognition and attachment to its mosquito hosts. If a spore encounters, for instance, a water beetle, a dragon fly larva or a rice plant, it recognizes that a susceptible host has not been encountered. It will back off from that surface and swim on looking for a suitable host.

Appearance

Mosquito larvae (Culex tarsalis)) infected by the parasite. J.Kerwin, both

L. giganteum is most easily recognized after it has matured, and ovoid, septate cells have formed. Infected larvae are recognized by a characteristic grey-white to almost completely white appearance. (Note that infection by some other parasites, e.g. microsporidians, will also result in pale white larvae). In the absence of competing bacteria or protozoa, infected larvae will be completely filled with cells that under a microscope will appear translucent. These cells are often most easily seen either in the larval head capsule or the anal papilla (the breathing appartus at the tail end of the larva).

Habitat Although L. giganteum is not an obligate parasite, and can grow vegetatively (for example, on rotting vegetation or dead insects) in the absence of its hosts, it grows much faster and is easier to isolate from mosquito larvae. It can be found in freshwater habitats supporting mosquito populations. Isolation of the parasite from indigenous larval populations has been documented primarily in the southern United States, but it has also been found in California, Cuba, Colombia, and England. It will become dormant at temperatures below ca. 16°C or above 32°C. Moderate levels of salinity or organic load prevent it from sporulating, which is necessary for mosquito infection.

Pests Attacked The parasite will infect and kill most species of mosquito breeding in fresh water, from temperatures of 16-32°C. It will also infect the closely related dipteran Chaoborus astictopus, the Clear Lake gnat, and at very high concentrations, some species of daphnids. Infection of daphnids is not desireable, but this only occurs when levels of the parasite ca. 100 times greater than that recommended for operational control are reached.

Life Cycle Infection of a larval host is initiated by motile biflagellate zoospores that selectively recognize chemical signals on the epicuticle (outer exoskeleton) of mosquitoes. After attaching (A) the zoospores inject themselves into the larva, and ramify throughout the body of the host (B). Depending upon the temperature and zoospore density, the larva dies of starvation within 1-4 days. At that time each individual cell can form an exit tube and release 10-50 asexual spores, which in turn seek out a new host (C). Alternately, two cells can fuse (D), ultimately resulting in the formation of a thick-walled dormant oospore (E). This sexual stage of L. giganteum can remain viable in a dehydrated state for at least 7 years. It is this spore that is responsible for multi-year recycling of the parasite even though a habitat may be dry for months or years before reflooding and colonization by mosquito larvae. Under appropriate environmental conditions, oospores will germinate, resulting in the production of infective biflagellate zoospores similar to those produced during asexual reproduction.

Relative Effectiveness Operational levels of mosquito control have been obtained by ground or aerial application of L. giganteum at rates ranging from ca. 0.9 x 1010 to 5 x 1010 CFU's (colony forming units) per hectare. The application rate depends upon the susceptibility and developmental rate of the target species, and habitat characteristics (temperature, organic load and salinity). For instance, control of floodwater Aedes species in early fall, in which there is synchronous hatch of large numbers of eggs in relatively cold water, would require treatment at the higher rates. At the other extreme, for 3- to 4-month control of very susceptible mosquito species such as Culex tarsalis breeding in rice fields at very low densities, the lower rates can be used.

Zoospores do not have a cell wall, so are much too fragile to be applied directly in a breeding habitat; therefore, either presporangia (mycelia, USEPA registration No. 56984-2), oospores (USEPA registration No. 56984-3), or a mixture of both (USEPA registration No. 56984-1) are applied. Sporulation then occurs in the treated site to initiate infection.

The sexual stage of L. giganteum has many advantages in an operational control program including multi-year stability, resistance to desiccation and abrasion, and it's inherent slow-release characteristics. Unfortunately, fermentation yields of oospores remain 2 orders of magnitude below that of the less stable mycelial (asexual, presporangial) stage. Research is continuing on improving oospore yields, which would be much more useful in large scale operational mosquito control programs.

L. giganteum is a facultative parasite, and has been grown in large fermentation tanks using inexpensive culture media. Multi-hectare aerial applications have been made in rice fields and in refuges for migratory birds, primarily in California, where both efficacy and safety to nontarget organisms has been documented. Because the mycelial cells are relatively rugged, the low volume spraying equipment used by many mosquito abatement agencies for application of insecticides is readily adapted to application of this parasite.

Pesticide Susceptibility Except for the dormant oospore stage, the parasite is very susceptible to organophosphates, carbamates, herbicides, fungicides, and other chemicals commonly used either by mosquito abatement districts, or applied to crops (such as rice and soybeans) that are associated with mosquito breeding. IC50 values for inhibition of mycelial growth commonly range from ca. 50-5,000 ppm. Fortunately, recommended application rates for many of these chemicals are below levels that are toxic to the parasite. Organic solvents such as toluene and oil commonly used as diluents of the active ingredients of pesticides are also toxic to L. giganteum.

Commercial Availability This parasite is registered with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and several states, including California and Florida, for use as an operational mosquito control agent. It is currently the only commercially available biological control agent (not including Bacillus thuringiensis var. israelensis, which is a microbial insecticide) for mosquitoes. Besides being host specific, L. giganteum has the ability to recycle for weeks, months, or even years in a given breeding habitat after a single application.

Beginning in 1997 the asexual stage of this parasite will be commercially available as the LAGINEX® formulation. It can be obtained from AgraQuest, Inc.
146 posted on 02/26/2009 12:11:44 PM PST by Scythian
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Thanks for the posting more information, Scythian. Interesting/educational. Thanks to all posters for discussing this issue.

Life/health/prayer BUMP!


147 posted on 02/26/2009 9:14:35 PM PST by PGalt
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To: cricket
That's amazing, thanks for posting that. I take alfalfa internally, and it works for my arthritis. The most potent formula has been (don't laugh!) rabbit pellets. They're forty-nine cents per pound.
148 posted on 02/26/2009 11:50:35 PM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly. 2 Cor. 10:3-5)
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Do you yet, have any idea of how it is; you may have picked this up; or may have have been suseptible?


149 posted on 02/27/2009 5:17:54 PM PST by cricket (January 20, 2009 - the day the music died)
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Do you yet, have any idea of how it is; you may have picked this up; or may have have been suseptible?

BUMP! Thanks to all concerned posters on this thread.

Life/health/prayer BUMP!

150 posted on 02/28/2009 7:12:31 PM PST by PGalt
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