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Charley Reese Sees a "Weimar Republic" in Our Future(2003)
free republic repost ^ | 7-23-2003 | charley reese

Posted on 02/26/2009 8:57:26 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB

I have a theory that nations are like individuals. Those whose leaders are smart, strong and lucky prosper, and those whose leaders are stupid, weak and unlucky suffer or perish.

That's why it matters which leaders we choose. There are relatively few people in the United States who actually have the power to make important decisions.

The Constitution, for example, vests 100 percent of the power of the federal government in only 537 individuals — one president, one vice president, 435 members of the House and 100 members of the Senate. Everybody else in the entire federal government operates on authority delegated to them by these 537 individuals. Actually, since most matters can be decided by a majority vote, a mere 269 individuals (51 senators, 218 representatives) can make most of the decisions.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: reese; republic; weimar
interesting post from 2003
1 posted on 02/26/2009 8:57:27 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Bush was Weimar. We have reached the next stage already.


2 posted on 02/26/2009 8:59:09 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“and those whose leaders are stupid, weak and unlucky suffer or perish.”

Not to mention lying, greedy, and corrupt.


3 posted on 02/26/2009 9:00:55 AM PST by Scanian
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To: WOBBLY BOB

very interesting. Certainly the direction we are heading.


4 posted on 02/26/2009 9:01:38 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: WOBBLY BOB
I do love though these types of predictions:

"Wood predicts that by the end of the decade there will no longer be a possibility that the world's central banks can control the situation, and there will be a truly massive devaluation of the dollar. 'The view here is that the U.S. dollar will have disintegrated by the end of this decade. By then, the target price of gold bullion is U.S. $3,400 an ounce.'"

One thing we really haven't seen is the massive moves on the dollar or gold that have always been predicted. They trend that direction, but they don't move in the way that some claim it will. I believe the factor that is missing is that the value of the dollar generally is measured by its relative weight to other currencies, thus if a downturn affects other countries, you will see little relative change. With gold, a lot of folks see it as an insurance, not as a growth opportunity. With the higher taxation on the increase in value as well as the issue of storage, it isn't as attractive that some make it out to be.

5 posted on 02/26/2009 9:03:31 AM PST by mnehring
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To: SolidWood

“Hyperinflation would mean it would take a wheelbarrow full of currency to buy a loaf of bread. It would mean the ruin of practically all Americans, especially the middle class. All of sudden, a family’s entire life savings wouldn’t pay a month’s rent. Massive poverty and even starvation would descend on the nation, and desperate people would start looking for a savior. Survival would become more important than democratic processes. “


6 posted on 02/26/2009 9:05:00 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

More support for the folks who refer to Reagan as “Ronaldus Magnus” (a Charlemagne reference). Despite all that Charlemagne accomplished, his successors were unworthy and allowed the empire to atrophy and die.


7 posted on 02/26/2009 9:05:23 AM PST by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Now, here's a scary paragraph from an article by John Berthelsen in Asia Times. You can find it at www. atimes.com. He quotes an analysis done by an expert with Credit Lyonnais Securities Asia in Hong Kong by the name of Christopher Wood:

"Wood predicts that by the end of the decade there will no longer be a possibility that the world's central banks can control the situation, and there will be a truly massive devaluation of the dollar. 'The view here is that the U.S. dollar will have disintegrated by the end of this decade. By then, the target price of gold bullion is U.S. $3,400 an ounce.'"

This is predicted because of the massive trade deficits, massive federal deficits and massive personal debt that stupid politicians and citizens have accumulated. Since the target date is only seven years from now, we have only the 2004 elections to replace idiots with some smart people who might be able to head off this disaster.

Precient.

8 posted on 02/26/2009 9:06:25 AM PST by OB1kNOb (O.B.A.M.A. -- One Big A** Mistake America)
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To: SolidWood
Bush was Weimar. We have reached the next stage already.

In the past, I always called out Godwin's law, but it is getting eerie. We are already seeing calls for our own "Volksgemeinschaft" or community work projects for the betterment of the State. While they don't want to admit it, the calls for nationalization of banks and other industries are very much in line with "Lebensraum"- then it was mostly agriculture, now, we are not as agrarian as the Weimar Republic was.

9 posted on 02/26/2009 9:06:30 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

You left out the Brown Shirts and the Civilian Defense Force.


10 posted on 02/26/2009 9:27:14 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Nice peice, and fitting. I feel that I must say that Doc Mike (love him or hate him) talks about this very subject from time to time. I truly have always belived that when you give a person that has never payed taxes (not due to circumstances beyond thier control) the right to vote, you end up with a welfare state, surely this is compounded by all the other BS that is going on. In the end, (and I belive we are WAY beyond the tipping point) just as with the Weimar republic, we may see a revolution, or an outright war. I’d like to be optimistic like Queen Amidala (SP) from Star Wars, and “..pray for sanity within the senate”, but in the case of the US government, it seems a self fullfilling prophesy (sp) that history will repeat itself, as history always does.
And I’d like to add one more thing, I’d like to say to the Elites, The Congress Critters, the folks in charge, and others in power, YOU made this happen, not me, I’m just a lonely poor white boy. (oh great, now I got Bohemian Rapsidy(SP) running through my head, it could be worse, it could be Rap)


11 posted on 02/26/2009 9:31:26 AM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: mnehrling
Well put. My parents used to tell my sister and me that ALL of life was based on comparisons. Their belief was that on its own almost any situation we thought was bad was because we were comparing it to a better time or situation. My mom used to laugh when we had hard times and tell me, “Johnny, trust me, one day you'll look back and call these ‘the good ol’ days!” I usually get a good laugh when I tell that story, but sadly it's turned out to be oh so true.

Your post is right on. As bad as our situation looks, it's better than a good deal of the rest of the world. We have our parents and grandparents to thank for that. Let's pray our grandchildren can say the same for us!

12 posted on 02/26/2009 9:41:36 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

If we did have hyperinflation, everybody would become completely debt-free rapidly. Imagine taking the “wheelbarrow full of money” to your bank to pay off your mortgage, cars and credit card.


13 posted on 02/26/2009 9:42:47 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (Government employment exists to provide a middle class lifestyle to otherwise, unemployable people)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

True. At a certain point in time, the unthinkable becomes thinkable. Germany, saddled with war debts, had no choice but to inflate their currency. For different reasons, we will do the same. There’s no way we can avoid it, except by defaulting. We’re rapidly reaching the tipping point of not being able to make payments without printing (or adding zeros to the database.)


14 posted on 02/26/2009 9:46:55 AM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: ChetNavVet

The Communists—and I do mean Communists—who brought GOVERNMENT SCHOOL to the United States set in motion the process of the disintegration of the Republic founded on the Constitution.

It is mind-boggling that even “conservatives” utterly fail to see any threat to liberty in the fact that THE GOVERNMENT holds 90% of American children TOTALLY CAPTIVE for most of their waking hours, for twelve years of their lives.


15 posted on 02/26/2009 9:54:28 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Richard Kimball
More currently, Zimbabwe issued a $100 Trillion note. I think Zero is trying his best to beat them.
16 posted on 02/26/2009 10:04:18 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (Government employment exists to provide a middle class lifestyle to otherwise, unemployable people)
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To: Arthur McGowan

The NEA has had a detrimental effect on our nation, as the “by-product” of the Chicago Public School System, I at least had a few mentors - I was lucky and gratefull to have them, and I will always be gratefull to those few teachers and both ROTC retired army guy instructors, and my mom, for doing the best they could. Nowadays, I’d agree that there are far less good mentors.
Hey, Your right on the money, socialsit agenda 101, get’em while they’re young, teach them nothing of practical value, and instead indoctrinate them. The whole NEA belongs in prison.


17 posted on 02/26/2009 10:48:19 AM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: ChetNavVet

Sadly, out of this mess, I fear that a true leader will rise from the mire. He will promise to save us and unlike Mr. Obama he will have true leadership ability and courage to do unpopular things to get things done (Think Jack Baure). This leader will take over and for a time he will put things in order—fix things up and “make the trains run on time” but there will be a terrible cost for such things. Its called fascism—let us hope that the new leader will be more like Evita Peron or Franco than Adolph Hitler. In time fascism will crumble and out of the mess a new democracy will emerge.
Lets hope I am wrong.


18 posted on 02/26/2009 12:09:25 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I hear you loud and clear, and I also hope that Fascism never rears its head in MY (and our) nation. I hate most “ISIMS”, the only isims I could ever accept are the following:
Isolationism, Americanism/Nationalisim, Fundamental Constitutionalism.

I dislike the first ‘isim’ because I want for the US to be a beacon of liberty. But if forced, well there goes the rest of the neighborhood.

The second one is pretty much (ecconomically at least)the same as the first. Not pretty for the rest of the world.

The third isim, by straying from it, is exactly how we got in this mess in the first place, to restore it will mean sacrifice. of the three, I would want that isim.
But I’ll not trade what I have now, however watered down our constitution becomes, as bad as it could ever get, for any type of Fascism, I’m sure most true Americans like yourself would agree, and yet I see your point that it may happen despite what we want. Lets hope were wrong.


19 posted on 02/26/2009 1:14:21 PM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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