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Torture pit where Robin Hood was imprisoned found under Nottingham Galleries of Justice[UK]
Culture 24 ^ | 26 Feb 2009 | Ben Miller

Posted on 02/27/2009 10:49:38 AM PST by BGHater

A bottle-necked pit where hated outlaws including Robin Hood were imprisoned and starved or driven to insanity in the Middle Ages has been discovered by archaeologists in the underground caves of the Galleries of Justice Museum in Nottingham.

Known as an oubliette (“to forget” in French), the hole was used as a holding cell for dissenters against the Sheriff of Nottingham, and the city’s favourite wealth-regulating son is believed to have been cast into it after being arrested by the Sheriff and his men at the nearby St Mary’s Church.

“The opening was bricked over centuries ago, probably in the Georgian period,” explained the Museum’s Cathy Rowson, who managed to photograph the pit by standing in the structure and pointing the lens skywards.

“Currently access to the oubliette is by a side tunnel that was knocked through, probably during the original excavations in 1998.”

The team at the Museum are pursuing further funding for a full delve to the bottom of the opening, where they expect to find human remains, a fate Robin Hood was spared thanks to being rescued by his merry men.

Tim Desmond, Chief Executive of the Museum, said the news was “really exciting.” “Robin Hood is built on legend but we want to get to the history,” he confessed, arguing that the site was used by the Sheriff himself.

“The King’s Hall was used by the original Sheriffs of Nottingham,” added Desmond. “We can’t argue with the historical facts.”

Visitors are now being allowed to view the pit and access the caves as part of the museum tour.

Outlaws were left to starve or go mad in the pit.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: england; forstofnottingham; godsgravesglyphs; history; kingjohn; nottingham; nottinghamgaol; prison; richardthelionheart; robingoodfellow; robinhood; sheriffofnottingham; thegreenman; uk; unitedkingdom; wales; yorkshire
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1 posted on 02/27/2009 10:49:39 AM PST by BGHater
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To: SunkenCiv
ping. Maybe for inventory.
2 posted on 02/27/2009 10:50:17 AM PST by BGHater (Tyranny is always better organised than freedom)
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To: BGHater

So...the “Pit of Despair” was real after all!


3 posted on 02/27/2009 10:53:30 AM PST by Sigurdrifta
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To: BGHater

4 posted on 02/27/2009 10:55:03 AM PST by freedombird
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To: freedombird

When you put “rob from the rich to give to the poor” into a modern political context, Robin sounds a lot like Obama doesn’t he? Who’s the modern counterpart of the Sheriff? Already, just a few weeks after the election, I feel like I’m in the Pit of Despair.


5 posted on 02/27/2009 10:59:28 AM PST by Bernard Marx (Free California from public employee union rule!)
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To: BGHater

I have an oubliette, my facility manager refers to it as a cubicle.


6 posted on 02/27/2009 11:00:29 AM PST by SoDak (Molon Labe)
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To: BGHater

A Nottinham hello to my relatives!...


7 posted on 02/27/2009 11:01:25 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Bernard Marx

I think the distinction is that, in the Robin Hood context, he was robbing from the Fuedal tight wads that truly did keep the villagers down.

Not the case in the U.S.


8 posted on 02/27/2009 11:01:27 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: freedombird

“Have you met the poor? Charming people.”

Great movie.


9 posted on 02/27/2009 11:05:54 AM PST by gigster
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To: Bernard Marx

Since there were not citizens, only subjects subjected to unreasonable non-representative taxation.......

A modern analogy would be that of our founding fathers and the British Lords....


10 posted on 02/27/2009 11:08:02 AM PST by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Bernard Marx

Robin Hood AKA Jon Amendall, was a guerrilla leader in an ethnic war. He supported the dispossessed Saxons against their new Norman overlords, who were basically pillaging the country while Richard the King was away in Jerusalem.

The Normans were stealing the Saxon’s money, and Hood was stealing it back.

Richard Lionheart finally brought the two sides, Saxon and Norman, together. Three generations after the battle of Senlac.(Hastings)

When he died and his creepy thief brother took over, both Norman and Saxon got together to force him to sign the Magna Carta, re-establishing the rights of (noble) Englishmen.

Hood was no commie, but a brave man standing up to usurpation of authority and trampling upon the rights of the citizens. A patriot.


11 posted on 02/27/2009 11:11:26 AM PST by Garrisson Lee
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To: BGHater

hmm.. I thought that Robin Hood was not a real person.. my history knowledge stinks!


12 posted on 02/27/2009 11:13:04 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: BGHater

Robin Hood: Real or a myth?

http://www.answerbag.com/articles/Was-Robin-Hood-a-Real-Person/69dc8f7c-4360-8e2e-c659-7ff5b34de538


13 posted on 02/27/2009 11:16:17 AM PST by Signalman
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To: Bernard Marx

Actually, in the story, it was more like, “Take from the government and give to the taxpayer.” He stole from wealthy government princes and officials and corrupt church officials, and gave to working poor people.


14 posted on 02/27/2009 11:19:47 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Obama - Making Jimmy Carter look like a giant!)
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To: DollyCali

“hmm.. I thought that Robin Hood was not a real person.. my history knowledge stinks!”

Don’t feel bad, I was thinkin the “wait a minute, I thought that was just a fictional story” myself.


15 posted on 02/27/2009 11:19:50 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: SoDak

LOL - yeah, but the real ones were lined with punji stakes.


16 posted on 02/27/2009 11:23:01 AM PST by patton (America is born in Iceland, and dies in California)
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To: DollyCali
hmm.. I thought that Robin Hood was not a real person.. my history knowledge stinks!

That's OK - look at how many people will take a firm stance on Robin's existence and validity because of this, yet deny the existence of Jesus because the bible is "fiction".

Love your tag line - God Bless

17 posted on 02/27/2009 11:24:12 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: patton

Yeah, those are being added next week due to the bad economy. My boss says it might help productivity.


18 posted on 02/27/2009 11:26:16 AM PST by SoDak (Molon Labe)
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To: SoDak

LOL!


19 posted on 02/27/2009 11:30:57 AM PST by patton (America is born in Iceland, and dies in California)
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To: Mr Rogers; Garrisson Lee; nevergore; Retired Greyhound

Maybe I have it wrong in the actual historical context. But the phrase is used in the Marxist idiom today. I just Googled it and got 12,400,000 hits! The original history and meaning of the story have been lost. What is the favorite Democrat term of scorn and derision? “The rich.”


20 posted on 02/27/2009 11:35:15 AM PST by Bernard Marx (Free California from public employee union rule!)
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