Posted on 02/28/2009 4:33:45 PM PST by rocco55
Edited on 03/01/2009 5:59:06 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
This seems too outlandish to be true, but news source appears legitimate.
"The time for partisan bickering just ended. This is as serious as a heart attack. Obama is going to spend so much money, which he intends to get from China via the sale of government backed bonds, that the Chinese apparently don't think he'll be able to make good on them.
So President Obama gave the Chinese eminent domain rights to American land and businesses as collateral - i.e. we don't pay, they now own America."
(From Patriot Room.)
"Because it looks like our wonderful new administration is granting the Chinese eminent domain as collateral for US debts. Yea you read that right. That means when we can no longer pay for all this massive spending the Chinese can call in the loans and take our land.
The thought that American citizens and businesses could lose their land as a means of payment is downright scary. I highly doubt ANY American citizen would have voted for Obama if they knew this was coming down the pike. (Live Leak has more details.)
Sources at the United States Embassy in Beijing China have just CONFIRMED to me that the United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People's Republic of China, an option to exercise Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China's continu More..ed purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves!
The written agreement was brought to Beijing by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was formalized and agreed-to during her recent trip to China.
This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take -- inside the USA -- land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities - to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.
Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to "take" all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt."
This cannot stand. It is traitorous and Obama should be impeached.
Mod note: Hal Turner via Google
ping!
I’m having a hard time believing this one BUT....
does anybody remember back to when China took Hong Kong back?
I was stunned!!
Wave after wave after wave of personnel carriers, each holding twelve to fifteen soldiers, just kept pouring in.
Thousands of them. For like 12 hours.
It was scary.
Can’t we simply give China Hillary instead? I can’t think of a better persent except maybe a two for the price of one deal.
"UPDATE: Seems the story originated here which also mentions this Bloomberg story citing the chinese wanting guarantees on the debt. It also suggests that the states knew this was coming with the recent activity of 11 or so states declaring their sovereignty."
The "here" is a link to the Hal Turner Show Blog where EMINENT DOMAIN is talked about. The Bloomberg article does not even mention EMINENT DOMAIN. Hal Turner is a notorious kook and white supremacist and the EMINENT DOMAIN angle is almost certainly BS.
The Live Leak Post is mainly excerpts from the longer Hal Turner material.
This news story is ONE day old ! How could it be posted SEVERAL times ? I don’t know if it’s true, but I did hear that on Hannity’s site, a blog has been started on it. Not that verifies its authenticity ? I guess we’ll see
I don’t know if it’s true, but I did hear that on Hannity’s site, a blog has been started on it. Not that verifies its authenticity ? I guess we’ll see.
I don’t know if it’s true, but I did hear that on Hannity’s site, a blog has been started on it. Not that verifies its authenticity ? I guess we’ll see
Blogosphere | Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 9:25:55 am PST
Here’s a tale of the kind of sheer idiocy that gives blogs a bad name, as Pamela Geller has another meltdown: Atlas Shrugs: OBAMA GRANTS EMINENT DOMAIN RIGHTS TO AMERICAN LAND TO CHINA.
The story may have originated with this Bloomberg article, about the Chinese asking Obama for assurances that the US will support the dollar’s exchange rate, to protect their $682 billion holdings of American debt.
Notice that the words “eminent domain” do not appear in the Bloomberg article. That’s because such a ridiculous thing is not being discussed. By anyone.
So where does Pamela Geller’s latest overheated kookspiracy theory come from? An “unsourced” post at LiveLeak.com: Feds grant eminent domain as collateral to China for US debts.
Google this title and you discover the real source at the bottom of this ugly little hoax: infamous white supremacist nutjob Hal Turner: FEDS GRANT EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS!
Have a look through the comments posted at that page, if you have a strong stomach.
Someone might want to let Geller know she’s running agitprop from neo-Nazis again.
The Anti-Defamation League has a collection of some of Turner’s other statements: Hal Turner in His Own Words.
Instead of fighting Muslims, we Christians should be rounding up jews [sic] and killing them here in America. We should bomb their Synagogues, burn down their Yeshivas and violently attack them on the street and in their places of business. I advocate extreme violence against jews [sic] because their history as a people make them worthy of being killed. Jews are the lowest form of sub-human garbage. They deserve to be killed.
This is what happens when you don’t care and don’t check where your blog posts come from.
(Hat tip: Thanos.)
A lot of bloggers bit the fish hook on this one!
Trust me, it was posted several times in the 24 hours prior to when you posted it again on Saturday. And each time it was pulled.
Thanks, stockpirate. Where there’s alot of smoke, usually there is a fire. Confirmation for Eminent Domain given to China.
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Here’s a FRmail that arrived a few minutes ago:
“I went to the Republican headquarters to help with some mailings the other day.
Another volunteer mentioned his wife was doing pretty well selling real estate..I was surprised because of (supposedly) how bad real estate is here (in x state).
He told me that it was mostly Chinese buying them.
Weird huh.
Wouldn’t the Congress have to vote on this or can O just sell our butts down the river to the Chinese?”
That is a fact. The reason this one is still up is because maybe someone will search, find this, and read the part about the source being a racist scumbag trying to stir crap with a bogus story.
TANKS,Lu,,,and,,,
Roger Dat on the Smoke,,,
Hopefully this thread stays up...
Thanks for the ping. Be sure to check #31.
Thanks. Yikes.
I posted the same link about hal and that thread got pulled. Is he reliable?
It wasn’t from the examiner- didn’t know if they were any good...
Kim, I don’t know. First time I had heard of him was when these Eminent Domain threads appeared.
>>>Wouldn’t the Congress have to vote on this or can O just sell our butts down the river to the Chinese?”
They already did.
House Vote:
http://rules-republicans.house.gov/ShortTopics/Read.aspx?ID=237
H.R. 1105 — Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009
February 24, 2009
H.R. 1105 – Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009
Managers: McGovern / Sessions
Motion offered by Foxx
To make in order and provide the appropriate waivers for amendment #6, offered by Rep. Goodlatte (R-VA), which would prevent funds in the bill from being used to exercise the power of eminent domain to take private property from a private entity and give that property to another private entity, while exempting certain enumerated uses, such as highways, prisons, public utilities, and in cases of national emergencies or national disasters declared by the President.
Defeated 4 to 7*
Thanks, LucyT
Eminent Domain Vote in the House ON FEB.24, 2009
>>http://rules-republicans.house.gov/ShortTopics/Read.aspx?ID=237
H.R. 1105 — Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009
February 24, 2009
H.R. 1105 – Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009
Managers: McGovern / Sessions
>>Motion offered by Foxx
To make in order and provide the appropriate waivers for amendment #6, offered by Rep. Goodlatte (R-VA), which would prevent funds in the bill from being used to exercise the power of eminent domain to take private property from a private entity and give that property to another private entity, while exempting certain enumerated uses, such as highways, prisons, public utilities, and in cases of national emergencies or national disasters declared by the President.
Defeated 4 to 7*>>
WAKE UP America Ping.
Yeah, I think it was yesterday when we posted on an eminent domain thread...I posted a link directly to that guys website with the statement that I had no idea who he was. I went back to find it and all the posts about it were gone. We had an educational debate about how eminent domain meant that only federal and even local govts and certain parties (which are normally developers) can take private propety away for whatever reason. I asked if TIFS or blighted areas were the biggest factor but the question was never answered cuz the thread got pulled.
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