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Measuring intelligence with Google Suggest: an experiment
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Posted on 03/06/2009 5:57:48 AM PST by gondramB

Interesting experiment. Google suggest offers to complete searches based on other popular searches. The "researcher" asked a similar question two different ways - one in what they called a less intelligent fashion.

The Google suggestions came our radically different.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Humor; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: google; intelligence
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1 posted on 03/06/2009 5:57:49 AM PST by gondramB
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To: gondramB

What I find most interesting is that the “how 2” suggestions are all selfish, ‘me’ statements while the “how might” suggestions are all research oriented.


2 posted on 03/06/2009 6:01:11 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: gondramB

This study doesn’t seem very intelligent to me. I never use whole sentences, and I certainly don’t use labored grammar. I just toss in keywords. I would view “how might one account” as useless noise for search purposes. I’d just search “andrew jackson 1828 election analysis why he won” or some such thing. Google doesn’t care if you write like William F. Buckley. It’s all about keywords.


3 posted on 03/06/2009 6:02:44 AM PST by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: Huck

>>This study doesn’t seem very intelligent to me. I never use whole sentences, and I certainly don’t use labored grammar. I just toss in keywords. I would view “how might one account” as useless noise for search purposes. I’d just search “andrew jackson 1828 election analysis why he won” or some such thing. Google doesn’t care if you write like William F. Buckley. It’s all about keywords.<<

I would agree its not a good measure of intelligence.

But it does say something to old guys like me think in terms of keywords. Today’s contextual and natural speech searches can return dramatically different results depending on how something is phrased.


4 posted on 03/06/2009 6:04:59 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: gondramB

I guess. Maybe I’ll try some of my own experiments and see if I’m missing out on better results. Like I said, I never use complete questions. Just keywords. I will say this, I never use “2” instead of “to” in a search.


5 posted on 03/06/2009 6:07:48 AM PST by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: gondramB

Given his close relationship with the Obama campaign, Eric Schmidt, Google’s CEO, has quite a bit of “skin in the game. Google and especially: Google News” has been repeatedly shown to be radically leaning in their bias and in the search results received. With 60% Plus share of the global search engine market - this company controls an enormous amount of information that gets to The People. Schmidt learned a lot when Google expanded into communist China - Specifically, how to squash some types of unwanted information and how elevate preferred websites. Apparently Google company motto of “do no harm” means implementation of the tenets of communism.


6 posted on 03/06/2009 6:08:43 AM PST by AJ in NYC (Liberals are ill-mannered children)
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To: gondramB

I don’t see this as a measure of intelligence. It’s just a measure of diversity.

Anyway, I’m a diverse guy with a wide range of interests.

There are days when I need to know how I might measure the effectiveness of a promotion.

But some evenings, I just want 2 kiss, get a sixpack, and make a bomb.


7 posted on 03/06/2009 6:09:56 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“How might one?” “How 2?” What have we found? That octagenarian Brits are more studious than hip-hoppers?

(What does that say about Fergie?)


8 posted on 03/06/2009 6:11:36 AM PST by dangus
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To: gondramB
But it does say something to old guys like me think in terms of keywords. Today’s contextual and natural speech searches can return dramatically different results depending on how something is phrased.

I'm a "keyword" person too - might be time to experiment with a little natural speech.

9 posted on 03/06/2009 6:13:01 AM PST by GOPJ (People who can't use the new WH phone system are trying to redesign half the US economy - Brooks)
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To: gondramB

Shocking! Just yesterday, I was googling: How 2 account for the rise of Andrew Jackson to victory in the election of 1830.


10 posted on 03/06/2009 6:13:31 AM PST by dangus
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To: gondramB

I was just looking up something medieval. I forgot which it was (Robin Hood?). Anyway, I was surprised my results were cluttered up by hiphoppers. Now I know:
“Prithee Google, dear chap, Canst thou answer me...”


11 posted on 03/06/2009 6:18:11 AM PST by dangus
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To: Constitution Day

I asked Google, “quhat say thay?” and it got all cornfused.


12 posted on 03/06/2009 6:25:51 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: gondramB

Ha! I especially like “How 2” is always followed by some simpleton inquiry.

How 2 kiss? How 2 get a six pack?

But, the “How might one” is always followed by some intellictual endeavor.

They need to mix it up. “How might one locate a new crack pipe? or How might one hookup with one’s own sister?”


13 posted on 03/06/2009 6:54:07 AM PST by Sax
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To: GOPJ

Sometimes keywords are all you need, but sometimes I find I need to let the engine know that I’m asking a question. Still, “How Jackson Won 1828” should be all it needs to know.


14 posted on 03/06/2009 6:58:58 AM PST by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: gondramB
I don't think Google has to do anything to get results to skew more intelligently. In the example, I doubt that web pages that differentiate one protein from another would say "how 2."

I have no doubt that Google juggles their results. They bump Wikipedia, for example. However, all this shows is that more intelligent phrasing returns more intelligent web pages.

15 posted on 03/06/2009 7:17:38 AM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: AJ in NYC
Good info to raise. It's my guess that it comes closest to what is behind "new" search criteria or style. Did I menntion they want to make money, too...?

This site used to come up wa-aay too much when 'googling'.

They fixed that, too, for reasons both good, and some political. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have some one checking in from time to time, to see how the planned leak of info is playing in the various ourlets in Peoria.

Loading the FR forum page, or refreshing it, cycles through a "looking up google analytics" activity banner with the platform and browser I'm currently using. What's up with that, we wonder.

They have lots & lots of dough, and plenty of employees. If I had all that, and was pre beta testing the idea in the media...

hello google employee! drop me freepmail, would 'ya?

16 posted on 03/06/2009 10:56:57 AM PST by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon

Hitting “reply” just now, (opening the reply window) cycles through google analytics, as did hitting “post” just a moment ago.


17 posted on 03/06/2009 10:59:47 AM PST by BlueDragon
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