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To: r9etb
And again ... those jobs are not being "taken away" from anybody.

And again, you are wrong. You are making the phony assumption that none of those 7 million plus jobs would be filled if there were no illegal aliens to fill them.

Ironically, your argument for saying that my justification is "phony," just happens to be ... my argument: illegals get hired because they cost less than Americans do.

Of course they are cheaper. The only problem is that it is against the law to hire them.

And yet you apparently refuse to focus on the demand side, which is the real source of the problem.

Demand isn't the problem in this ountry. We have plenty of labor, skilled and unskilled.

Now you're just hiding your head in the sand. The demand is for low-cost workers; the supply of legal workers is asking for more money/benefits than the employers are willing (or able) to pay.

The employers might be willing (or able) to pay if they didn't have access to any more illegal workers. You just don't seem to get it. FYI: We are bring in both skilled and unskilled workers legally to the tune of about one million a year.

19 posted on 03/17/2009 12:08:42 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
And again, you are wrong. You are making the phony assumption that none of those 7 million plus jobs would be filled if there were no illegal aliens to fill them.

I didn't say that.... what I did say is, that the economics of illegal immigration are driven by cost. Americans cost more -- a lot more -- than illegals. A lot of those jobs (especially in agriculture) are only available because of the low wages that illegals will accept. Getting rid of the low-wage workers may well drive many Americans out of business.

Of course they are cheaper. The only problem is that it is against the law to hire them.

Hm. Have you ever wondered about why so many American employers are so blatantly unimpressed by that argument?

Demand isn't the problem in this ountry. We have plenty of labor, skilled and unskilled.

Two sentences that have very little to do with one another. The demand for labor is quite obviously being filled by illegals, and not by those from whom jobs are allegedly being "stolen." The difference in employability between illegal and domestic labor sources has its roots in one thing only: the cost of illegal labor is much, much lower.

The employers might be willing (or able) to pay if they didn't have access to any more illegal workers.

And many of them might well go out of business, too. You have to figure that they're flouting the law for a reason.

21 posted on 03/17/2009 12:27:08 PM PDT by r9etb
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