Posted on 03/23/2009 7:21:08 AM PDT by BGHater
Yes! You’re absolutely right! Sorry I didn’t catch it the first time.
Thank you.
Pap tests will still be needed and those girls should be getting them anyway.
Someone recently posted some statistics that most of the cases of cervical cancer occurred in women who either have not had a PAP test in the last 5 years and/or are extremely sexually active, as in prostitutes.
There is the added risk factor that excessive exposure to sperm increases the chance of cervical cancer.
Offer the vaccine? Sure. Mandate it? NEVER!
20,000 deaths per year from asprin? Where’d you get those figures?
A quick google search gives these, which includes all NSAIDS, not just aspirin.
(1996): “Each year, use of NSAIDs (Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs) accounts for an estimated 7,600 deaths and 76,000 hospitalizations in the United States.” (NSAIDs include aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen, diclofenac, ketoprofen, and tiaprofenic acid.)
Source:
Robyn Tamblyn, PhD; Laeora Berkson, MD, MHPE, FRCPC; W. Dale Jauphinee, MD, FRCPC; David Gayton, MD, PhD, FRCPC; Roland Grad, MD, MSc; Allen Huang, MD, FRCPC; Lisa Isaac, PhD; Peter McLeod, MD, FRCPC; and Linda Snell, MD, MHPE, FRCPC, “Unnecessary Prescribing of NSAIDs and the Management of NSAID-Related Gastropathy in Medical Practice,” Annals of Internal Medicine (Washington, DC: American College of Physicians, 1997), September 15, 1997, 127:429-438, from the web at http://www.acponline.org/journals/annals/15sep97/nsaid.htm, last accessed Feb. 14, 2001, citing Fries, JF, “Assessing and understanding patient risk,” Scandinavian Journal of Rheumatology Supplement, 1992;92:21-4.
http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30
You just lost major amounts of credibility unless you can provide statistics which support your statement.
Bad statistics.....
See post 63
It’s not anti-vaccine hysteria.
It’s reasonable concern over a vaccine that has yet to prove it’s worth that has been reported to be causing a fairly high rate of serious side-effects.
How about teaching boys to keep their pants zipped, or get the vaccine themselves?
I’ve never liked this vaccine. It was rushed to market; the pressure to be vaccinated is intense. Regular pap tests are all that’s needed.
Heck, given that it's Merck......
Sure, teach your kids not to have sex. That’s fine by me.
The vaccine is safe??????? and you know this for a certainty, how?????? That is as definitive a statement as your 20,000 die each year from aspirin statement.
It’s safety has yet to be established, and people opposed to a relatively untested vaccine administered to a group of people who it hasn’t been tested on, are not *anti-vaccine*.
If you read the posts, for the most part, the objections are to mandating it for a condition for which it may not be really effective and which is not nearly as fatal as it could be if other less risky health practices were followed.
The whole anti-vaccine label attached to people who have reasonable concerns about something is hyperbole at it’s worst. You’d find a lot more people willing to listen if you’d quit with the blanket labels when they express legitimate concerns.
If you want your kids to get the vaccine, knock yourself out. Just don’t demand that everyone else do it because you think they should and don’t go hysterically mislabeling everyone as *anti-vaccine* as if they oppose them all, when they are merely being cautious about one.
See 72.
See 72.
Well, if all of the girls abstained, who are the boys doing it with?
And why not have the same expectation of boys, to abstain.
Finally, along with a criminal background, credit history, we will have to have thorough medical checkups before hopping into bed with someone.
The only reason I brought up girls was because I have a 14 year old daughter. I would sure hope that young men (teens) are getting the same advice.
And you’re right, it is going to get to that point...its going to get to where you can’t kiss anyone anymore unless a piece of plastic or some other material goes up between each others mouths.
How sickening that its gotten this out of hand.
I have a 17yo daughter and a 19yo son. I hope that neither get hurt.
Your children are in my prayers. I used to say “well, if the parents would this or that...” and you know what, the parents are 3/4 of a child’s influence, and peers are the other 1/4...or sadly to say, sometimes 1/2 or more. I just continually remind my daughter of the dangers and pray to God that he watches over her.
It’s good to know there are still a lot of good parents out there in today’s society.
I home schooled. We are so far ahead of the game. I cannot begin to impress on parents the difference their relationship would be with their children if they didn’t put them in a public school.
I remember not being able to talk to my mom about anything. One, she flat out told me I was exaggerating; she didn’t quite have a grasp of the peer pressure. But our relationship was so confrontational.
A majority of the time, I can have fantastic conversations with my daughter. There are still the teenage hormonal moments, but they are brief and easily forgiven.
I envy your foresight. I feel like I’ve done everything pretty much right, but now I’m starting to look like the bad guy when I am forbidding my daughter to associate with bad apples.....but I don’t care.
We have only 1 chance to do right by our kids, and we owe that to them.
Ping!
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