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Therapists offer gay 'treatment'
news.bbc ^ | 26 March 2009

Posted on 03/26/2009 8:18:15 AM PDT by JoeProBono

Therapists are still offering treatments for homosexuality despite there being no evidence that such methods work, research suggests.

A significant minority of mental health professionals had agreed to help at least one patient "reduce" their gay or lesbian feelings when asked to do so.

The survey, published in the journal BMC Psychiatry and conducted by London researchers, involved 1,400 therapists.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: acure; gay; gaycanbecured; homosexualagenda; thereisacure

1 posted on 03/26/2009 8:18:15 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Maybe BMC Psychiatry should be suggesting that they stop helping addicts and alcoholics overcome their addictions.

After all, they’re just born that way.


2 posted on 03/26/2009 8:21:45 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: JoeProBono
A significant minority of mental health professionals had agreed to help at least one patient "reduce" their gay or lesbian feelings when asked to do so.

Heterosexuals - just like homosexuals - already have professionally-designed, built-in treatment centers located in their homes and apartments. They're called cold showers.

3 posted on 03/26/2009 8:24:06 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Presbyterians often forget that John Knox had been a Sunday bowler.)
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To: JoeProBono
Therapists are still offering treatments for homosexuality despite there being no evidence that such methods work, research suggests.

[ . . . ] They point to work by Robert Spitzer, a psychiatrist who lobbied for the removal of homosexuality from APA's list of mental illnesses but went on to suggest in a controversial 2001 study that therapy could bring about change in sexual orientation.


These two statements from the same article contradict each other. One may not agree with Spitzer's study, but the mere fact that it exists, and has caused controversy, shows that some qualified people believe that there is evidence that "such metods work."
4 posted on 03/26/2009 8:28:39 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Westbrook

It seems like homosexual culture and it’s supporters is probably one of impulses that’s the least discouraged although probably one of the most harmful.

If you’re a married man and you have a strong desire for Asian women, too bad, don’t go to Bangkok, you have to stick with your wife and culture for the most part expect you to.

If you have an attraction to other men, you seem to be told “let go of everything else. Go out and satisfy yourself with as much gay sex as you need”


5 posted on 03/26/2009 8:28:47 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: JoeProBono

Good luck doctors. You know what they say though... You can’t fix stupid.


6 posted on 03/26/2009 8:29:50 AM PDT by Mind Freed
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To: JoeProBono
despite there being no evidence that such methods work

Falsehood. There is evidence. It's not conclusive, or universally applicable, or undisputed, but there is evidence.

7 posted on 03/26/2009 8:29:54 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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To: JoeProBono
>despite there being no evidence that such methods work

Is there "evidence"
therapists cure anything?
If I remember,

all studies have shown
people who do therapy
show improvement at

the exact same rates
as people who don't do it.
It seems like the key

to "getting better"
is just making an effort
at getting better.

8 posted on 03/26/2009 8:31:48 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Tax-chick

You bet. I know an ex-gay who received therapy and is now happily married to a woman. It can work.


9 posted on 03/26/2009 8:32:02 AM PDT by Commander X (Liberalism: Spurring the decay of the USA)
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To: Tax-chick

good point. there’s evidence (although flimsy) that flying saucers visit this planet from time to time.

A very untruthful statement.


10 posted on 03/26/2009 8:32:04 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: Tax-chick
Electroshock therapy was found to effective.
11 posted on 03/26/2009 8:32:36 AM PDT by BenLurkin (And oh, Hey! I've been travelin' on this road too long)
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To: MNDude

You’re right, there is “evidence” for all sorts of things. Whether the evidence ultimately proves any particular point of view is a whole different issue from “there’s no evidence ...”


12 posted on 03/26/2009 8:35:35 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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To: BenLurkin

I expect electroshock therapy would affect just about anyone’s sexual urges, of any type.


13 posted on 03/26/2009 8:36:20 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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To: Tax-chick
I read a long time ago that Timothy Leary used to offer a treatment for homos back in the '60s. He gave the subject a large dose of LSD, put him in an isolation tank (like the one used in the film Altered States), and then used brainwashing techniques when the mind of the subject was most impressionable -- during the peak of the trip. The sujbect then exited the tank (while still heavily under the influence) and was taken to a bedroom with several very attractive, naked girls ready to "imprint" his nervous system to the heterosexual orientation.

lol...I suspect more than a few straight guys pretending to be gay enthusiastically volunteered to be "cured" in this manner ;)

14 posted on 03/26/2009 8:37:17 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

Weird stuff going on in the 60s.


15 posted on 03/26/2009 8:38:59 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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To: JoeProBono

I will never, for the life of me, understand how a man can be attracted to another man.

It’s God’s Greatest Earthly Miracle that women are attracted to us. It’s some source of wonder, but I try not to question it too much.

I can understand what lesbians theoretically are attracted to, but since most of ‘em look like guys anyway, that’s usually a mental illness too.

But for a guy... to have the choice of a soft, curvy, warm, sweet smelling, pretty woman, and chose some hard, knotty, hairy, sweaty, smelly guy with his organs on the outside, that’s just insanity.

That someone could make that choice throws my understanding of the world upside down.

It is an abomination in God’s Eyes and a personal affront to everything I believe.


16 posted on 03/26/2009 8:43:17 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Owl_Eagle

You know, you just put that right out there. Good straight talk. How in the world, indeed!


17 posted on 03/26/2009 8:52:23 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: JoeProBono

Pretty soon, they are going to start treating heterosexuality as a mental illness.


18 posted on 03/26/2009 8:53:38 AM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: The way communism should be)
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To: Owl_Eagle

“But for a guy... to have the choice of a soft, curvy, warm, sweet smelling, pretty woman, and chose some hard, knotty, hairy, sweaty, smelly guy with his organs on the outside, that’s just insanity.”

LOL...this cracked me up :) with THAT description, makes me kinda wonder then what women see in men? aaahaa...perhaps gay men aren’t “insane”, they just see men through women’s eyes? just a thought ;)


19 posted on 03/26/2009 9:01:11 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: Commander X

I also know a “recovered” gay - he spent most of his 20s pursuing this lifestyle. Made a conscience CHOICE at the age of 30 to leave that lifestyle. And yes he had “gay” feelings as a child.

He is now happily married, with two children and works at a church. He and his wife have also have a ministry trying to reach and educate the gay community. He gets really ticked off when people tell him that his experience is a “lie”.


20 posted on 03/26/2009 9:01:31 AM PDT by justsaynomore
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To: Westbrook

they’re just born that way,it’s odd how freaks tend to be the first to use a crutch to justify actions.


21 posted on 03/26/2009 9:02:10 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: JoeProBono
Let alone the thousands who have left the gay lifestyle, three very well known leaders in the gay community have left the lifestyle:

Michael Glatze ‘Comes Out’ of Homosexuality: former ‘Young Gay America’ Magazine Co-founder
Venus Magazine
The Ex-Gay Story in the Pop Music World

The number of ex-gays continues to grow. For more information, checkout NARTH.

22 posted on 03/26/2009 9:23:38 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Kimberly GG
LOL...this cracked me up :) with THAT description, makes me kinda wonder then what women see in men?

STOP IT!!!

Do NOT question this Sacred Miracle, or your role in it!

The future of our species depends on it!

23 posted on 03/26/2009 9:31:35 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: justsaynomore; Commander X
I also know a “recovered” gay ...

I've known one male, two female. I still have a few gay acquaintances, but no more gay friends - they all died of AIDS.

24 posted on 03/26/2009 11:45:34 AM PDT by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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To: Commander X
You bet. I know an ex-gay who received therapy and is now happily married to a woman. It can work.

If you're talking about a man, you have a point.

25 posted on 03/26/2009 11:50:03 AM PDT by Loud Mime (The IRS collectes $1 trillion in taxes each year. Why not forgive all taxes for a year? Stimulus!)
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To: JoeProBono
There is NO proof or credible evidence homosexuality is genetic. But, there are thousands of former homosexuals and research by Masters and Johnson and others showing homosexuals can change.
26 posted on 03/27/2009 8:33:06 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: theFIRMbss

The studies say 40% of patients will show positive results if you do ANYTHING for a treatment.

IOW if you perscribe sitting and just watching TV sport events, 40% will show improvement.


27 posted on 03/27/2009 12:45:19 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Ol' Sparky

they never discuss the prison population where otherwise straight males and females behave abnormally but return to normal physical behavior outside of prison.


28 posted on 03/27/2009 12:46:54 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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