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Coach sends shocking letter to team
myfoxboston.com ^ | Tuesday, 31 Mar 2009,

Posted on 03/31/2009 3:49:49 AM PDT by GQuagmire

FOX25, myfoxboston - A youth soccer coach is off the job after sending home a shocking letter to his team of 6 and 7-year-old girls.

The letter didn't go over so well with parents and the Scituate soccer board and the coach has since resigned.

This is Michael Kinahan's letter:

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxboston.com ...


TOPICS: Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: athletics; coach; politicalcorrectness; politicallycorrect; satire; senseofhumor
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1 posted on 03/31/2009 3:49:49 AM PDT by GQuagmire
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To: Past Your Eyes

The letter, that is.


3 posted on 03/31/2009 3:53:17 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: GQuagmire

I’d hire him.


4 posted on 03/31/2009 3:55:31 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Past Your Eyes

unsure if copyright allowed. I always excerpt to be safe


5 posted on 03/31/2009 3:57:12 AM PDT by GQuagmire (Who is EveningStar?)
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To: GQuagmire

This won’t fly in feminine New England...this will make them cry. The adults, that is...


7 posted on 03/31/2009 3:57:23 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: GQuagmire

So what’s the Coach’s FR screen name?


8 posted on 03/31/2009 3:58:03 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (M. Thatcher, "The trouble with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: GQuagmire

Shocking letter? To extol winning and express a desire to not lose? He was having a little fun, but the letter sounds like it’s from the type of coach I would want.


10 posted on 03/31/2009 3:58:50 AM PDT by mak5
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To: GQuagmire

Some people have no sense of humor. :)


11 posted on 03/31/2009 3:59:14 AM PDT by beandog
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To: GQuagmire
Excerpt:

...OK, here's the real deal: Team 7 will be called Green Death. We will only acknowledge "Team 7" for scheduling and disciplinary purposes. Green Death has had a long and colorful history, and I fully expect every player and parent to be on board with the team. This is not a team, but a family (some say cult), that you belong to forever. We play fair at all times, but we play tough and physical soccer. We have some returning players who know the deal; for the others, I only expect 110% at every game and practice. We do not cater to superstars, but prefer the gritty determination of journeymen who bring their lunch pail to work every week, chase every ball and dig in corners like a Michael Vick pit bull. Unless there is an issue concerning the health of my players or inside info on the opposition, you probably don't need to talk to me. Coach MacDonald has been designated "good guy" this year. ...

I don't see the controversy.....

12 posted on 03/31/2009 3:59:14 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: GQuagmire

Letter looked fine to me except for the undercooked meat AND this letter is not for little girls.

I think it would have been a great letter for junior high and above.


13 posted on 03/31/2009 3:59:43 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: mak5

Not my headline.I agree with him for the most part...


14 posted on 03/31/2009 4:00:19 AM PDT by GQuagmire (Who is EveningStar?)
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To: GQuagmire

send him up here, i’d send my girls to his team.


15 posted on 03/31/2009 4:00:53 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (thank God for Chicago: makes Detroit look wholesome by comparison.)
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To: GQuagmire

I love him. I don’t necessarily want to play for him, or have my kid play for him (it sounds like a lot of work to play for him, frankly) butI applaud his approach and his views. And his humor. Don’t people have any sense of humor anymore? Oh, I forgot, this is yuppie leftist Boston, not America.


16 posted on 03/31/2009 4:01:02 AM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama!)
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To: GQuagmire
First, This was sent to the parents not the kids

Second although possibly bad decision on the coaches part, its obvious parts

are exagerated toungue and cheek humour about playing to win.

17 posted on 03/31/2009 4:01:14 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: GQuagmire

That’s hilarious.


18 posted on 03/31/2009 4:02:25 AM PDT by RC one
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To: Rummyfan

Scituate is beautiful people town full of limp wristed liberals......


19 posted on 03/31/2009 4:03:11 AM PDT by GQuagmire (Who is EveningStar?)
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To: GQuagmire

Boston Herald story:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1162391


20 posted on 03/31/2009 4:04:28 AM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: Cindy

I agree with you that this probably wasn’t the best for 6 & 7 year olds, but I would have no problem with Junior High and above.


21 posted on 03/31/2009 4:04:34 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: iowamark

Thank you.


22 posted on 03/31/2009 4:06:06 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Cindy
True story: I went to watch my niece play (when she was this age). The coach had her on defense because she was suffering from, ahem, indifference.

The play is on the other end of the field, and I look up to see that she is sitting on the pitch in a semicircle with the other two defenders, and having a chat. It was hilarious.

It's also probably what this coach was telling the parents he doesn't want to see.

23 posted on 03/31/2009 4:09:56 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: GQuagmire

I was a carded soccer referee when I was young — youngest in my province, at the time. This letter would have described most of the girl’s soccer coaches I have ever met.

Aside from it being bombastic to the point of being asinine, I’m not scandalized by this letter particularly — except he misunderstands his true place in the Universe and the Grand Scheme of Things. You see, the Coach isn’t mentioned in the Laws of Soccer. But the Referee is.

He refers the “his sideline”. He’s got that part wrong: when his team is playing on MY field it is MY sideline He and his players are MY GUESTS, as are the opposing team and their coach. Spectators are not my GUESTS: they are spectators about which I can do nothing except demand that they keep a respectable distance from my field and not disrupt the game.

If, as coach he gets lippy with me, the ref, he will get a Red Card and be escorted off MY field by the linesmen. If he pulls his team off the field as a result, he will forfeit the game and LOSE.

If he yells abusively at his team I would give him exactly one warning to pipe down: that warning comes with a Yellow Card. The next time it happens, Red Card and off the field — I don’t mind.

Anyone receiving a card — be it Yellow or Red — will in due course be reported to the Provincial authorities.

Forewarned is forearmed: the ref should spell all of this out at the beginning of the game, and then make it stick. Nothing more need be done. Let’s have a clean game, and a good game, and may the best team win.


24 posted on 03/31/2009 4:17:15 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Rummyfan
Lastly, we are all cognizant of the soft bigotry that expects women and especially little girls, to be dainty and submissive; I wholeheartedly reject such drivel. My overarching goal is develop ladies who are confident and fearless, who will stand up for their beliefs and challenge the status quo. Girls who will kick ass and take names on the field, off the field and throughout their lives. I want these girls to be winners in the game of life. Who's with me?

Go Green Death!

I LOVE this guy. I wish he coached my daughter's team!

Though my daughter's coach is very good, and thinks along the same lines. He is just not quite so vocal about it.

25 posted on 03/31/2009 4:18:17 AM PDT by gridlock (Obama is beyond the point where incompetence is an adequate explaination.)
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To: GQuagmire

I guess the parents were wimps in school and had mommy protect them all their lives.


26 posted on 03/31/2009 4:18:57 AM PDT by bmwcyle (American voters can fix this world if they would just wake up.)
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To: GQuagmire
I was a little late to my grandson's soccer game. I approached some of the parents on the side lines and asked them what the score was. You should have seen the looks of scorn. A few of the brow beaten fathers nodded that their team was ahead, but were afraid to loudly proclaim it. The women had most of the men firmly in tow and they had given over their masculinity to the gals. (It was NOT a pretty sight)

What is the reason for getting the ball in the net if you don't keep score? Is it wrong to celebrate a job well done?

27 posted on 03/31/2009 4:19:00 AM PDT by mckenzie7 (TOTUS = PONZI)
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To: GQuagmire
According to my wife, my emails get too wordy

LOL! Thats an understatement.

This is probably his typical post game speech:

"Over? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!"

28 posted on 03/31/2009 4:24:34 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun on an Indy car....)
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To: GQuagmire

[...consequences the better. My heckling of the refs is actually helping them develop as people. The political correctness police are not welcome on my sidelines.]

This man should be coaching a boys team, not the girls whose moms live their sad life through their children.
Politcal correctness is hard and cruel and should be destroyed.


29 posted on 03/31/2009 4:28:53 AM PDT by kindred (Conservatives have 4 years to start a new conservative party or lose more elections.)
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To: Rummyfan
I think someone has been watching too much TV. I am guessing not a lot of actual coaching experience, and the ‘green death’ thing and ‘family cult’ is a little over the top for 6 and 7 year olds.

That said, I think it would be fine for high schoolers

30 posted on 03/31/2009 4:41:25 AM PDT by Mr. K (physically unable to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: GQuagmire

I think DD played for him ;-) b/c that is her outlook on soccer: an opportunity to run rough-shod over anyone in her way.

That said ... at 6 and 7 years old the big thing is that ALL the kids want a piece of the ball, so you basically have two color-coded clumps of kids milling around.

He probably needs to work with older kids


31 posted on 03/31/2009 4:43:05 AM PDT by Cloverfarm
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To: GQuagmire

An hilarious letter. Have already photocopied it for the kids’ coaches. I think the true measure of things is whether the children enjoy him.


32 posted on 03/31/2009 4:52:27 AM PDT by Tidbit
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To: Hot Tabasco

HAHAHAHA...Best comedy film EVEH!!!

what a great coach...the mistake he did was writing it. it strikes me some of the parents with a child who should get a medal for ‘taking part’ were the ones who outed him.

this is a perfect half time speech to the team that is loosing. CRY HAVOC, LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR!!!! GO GREEN DEATH!!!

instead you will now have a lispy matrosexual (or however the hell you spell that word), talking about inclusiveness and taking part and understanding the other team, when loosing 15 to 0.


33 posted on 03/31/2009 4:53:37 AM PDT by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: GQuagmire
This coach forgot that he was in New England.

They have no humor there, non-PC tongue in cheek least of all.

In fact, your standard Bostonian doesn't even realize that a joke is being told unless it includes the F word and a derogatory reference to Jesus Christ.

34 posted on 03/31/2009 4:57:10 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism and Liberty are mutually exclusive.)
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To: mak5

I’m not so sure that this is what six and seven year old girls play soccer for. Winning is more fun than losing, agreed, but at least half the girls will be put off by his over-the-top fervor.

It’s a mistake to project the ambitions of middle-aged men on to very young girls. They may find it off putting and stop playing altogether. I remember when my daughter was that age she played soccer on a mediocre team, but it gave her a bunch of friends and a lot of exercise. She also swam on a town swim team that dominated the state (and had for at least a decade). The swim coach’s philosophy was simple: stay in the pool at least two hours a day, six or seven days a week.


35 posted on 03/31/2009 4:58:00 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The death cult wants death, the Israelis want peace. I, for one, see only one solution.)
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To: GQuagmire
This kind of pep talk creates winners:

http://www.pattonhq.com/speech.html

Not “let's all be compassionate and equal”

36 posted on 03/31/2009 4:58:36 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
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To: GQuagmire

The coach is an idiot.


37 posted on 03/31/2009 5:09:54 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: GQuagmire

my high tech dialup connection isn’t opening this up.

Any other way I can view the entire letter?


38 posted on 03/31/2009 5:17:35 AM PDT by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: Cloverfarm
I have coached that age, the kids hardly understand the game. Our league didn't keep score, but the kids and parents did, we knew who was the best and worst teams were. The kids both girls and boys had a good time, and I let everybody play that turned out for the game.
Competition is great it lets the kids loose from time to time, it teaches them that the will always be a winner. One of my children is very competitive, and will often cry when she looses a game of anything. We let her cry. Chances are she will win the next time she plays.

We have a president now that grew up with the "touchy feely" "everybody is a winner!" life, and he is a bully that doesn't like people talking bad about him. It hurts his feelings.

Let the kids have some competition. I think this coach is a bit over the edge, but I think he is more trying to prove a point. I like it and would let my girls play on his team. I would be his assistant any season.

39 posted on 03/31/2009 5:19:55 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: GQuagmire

A bit over the top for 6 and 7 year old girls.

Sounds like some of the coaches of youth sports I know - the ones I don’t care for. Not because they want to win - what person doesn’t - those kids keep track of the score even when no one else does.

I know some coaches at the grade school level who are just living thru their kids. They dreamed of becoming some shining star athelete but never made the grade - now they demand winning from their boys. You should see some of the fat dad coaches yelling at their boys. Did you know there is crying in baseball? (Contrary to the line in “A League of Their Own.) It happens when overbearing dad coaches stress out their little champions to the point of near meltdown. My God Son plays on a team like this. They are all great little players but are pushed too hard if you ask me. They are going to burn out at a young age.

Most of the games end up with the Dad’s yelling at the Kids, the kid’s breaking down, the mom’s get mad at the dad’s and everyone rides home in silence. Unless they win - in which case Dad is on cloud nine like he won some great prize.

So while his letter may have mostly been in jest - he seems better suited to coach older kids. IMO


40 posted on 03/31/2009 5:21:37 AM PDT by mommya
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I think he was being sarcastic, and the letter refers to the fact that he had coached before. Returning players, who know the rules, hello! If he were that horrible with the kids, chances are he would not be brought back.


41 posted on 03/31/2009 5:22:19 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: DYngbld
Competition is great it lets the kids loose from time to time, it teaches them that the will always be a winner

Competition is great it lets the kids loose from time to time, it teaches them that they will NOT always be a winner

42 posted on 03/31/2009 5:24:56 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: mommya

Dang I wish we had an edit feature - my post is a mess with poor punctuation.


43 posted on 03/31/2009 5:25:29 AM PDT by mommya
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To: Scotswife

Probably not. Earlier someone posted the entire letter and it was deleted. I’m guessing for copyright issues.....


44 posted on 03/31/2009 5:46:48 AM PDT by GQuagmire (Who is EveningStar?)
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To: GQuagmire

agree with that

the town is a beautiful used to be fishing town but now it is full as the north east is full of left wing soft girlie men and leftist lunatic ugly homo looking short haired women.

I swear that the north east should be just blocked off form the rest of the country and we should send all those left wing nuts back up there who have moved down here in recent years.


45 posted on 03/31/2009 6:11:55 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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"the town is a beautiful used to be fishing town but now it is full as the north east is full of left wing soft girlie men..."

I'll assume you're excluding present company of course... ;)


46 posted on 03/31/2009 6:14:55 AM PDT by GQuagmire (Who is EveningStar?)
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To: Rummyfan

Totally beyond the pale for 6 and 7 year old girls. and for boys that age too. No, that’s not a good coach. He’s got issues with himself.


47 posted on 03/31/2009 6:15:13 AM PDT by bvw
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To: GQuagmire

6 and 7 year olds won’t have a clue what this guy is going on about. He must have been halfway in the bag when he wrote that email.


48 posted on 03/31/2009 6:15:14 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: mckenzie7

nope nothing wrong with it.

for some reason these homo looking liberal women and girlie homo looking men who follow their wives in tow like a lost sheep think that the score is not important but how they play the game and even if their kid is really crap and many of them are they tell their kid they were great.

Great they were crap so why lie to their kid and tell them that they are good at something when clearly they are not.
This is the problem with the left and the north east.

Many people there have been told they are good all their lives and yet they are not at all but still that doesn’t stop them strutting around thinking the world evolves around them.

My kids are not good at everything and I’ll tell them that they need work in a certain area.

and why play the game if you’re not looking at the score.
we play to win or used to along with enjoying the game.
No point in playing with an attitude of not bothered about the score or if we lose


49 posted on 03/31/2009 6:17:11 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: gridlock

I could take a team of the worst 6 and 7 year old girls and have them outplay, outscore and outclass that vile idiot any day of the week.


50 posted on 03/31/2009 6:17:53 AM PDT by bvw
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