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Why the Rock Hall says: No Rush for you!
MSNBC ^ | 3/30/2009 | Tony Sclafani

Posted on 03/31/2009 11:13:32 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Edited on 03/31/2009 11:14:50 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Geddy Lee and Neil Peart of Rush arrive at the Dreamworks' premiere of "I Love You, Man." And while Paul Rudd and Jason Segel may love the band, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame sure doesn't.

When the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame holds its annual induction ceremony April 4, there once again won’t be any progressive rock artists amongst its five honorees. The Rock Hall’s snubbing of the once-popular genre hasn’t gone unnoticed by its supporters.


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TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: elo; genesis; halloffame; jannwenner; pinkfloyd; progressiverock; rockandroll; rush; yes
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1 posted on 03/31/2009 11:13:32 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache

If all the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame honored was rock-n-roll acts, that would be one thing. But I guess they have to decide to keep SOMEBODY out, lest people figure out it ain’t really about rock-n-roll, anyway.


2 posted on 03/31/2009 11:16:57 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Probably the best band not in the R&R HOF. And certainly more deserving that some of the people/bands currently there.


3 posted on 03/31/2009 11:17:01 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Rush aren't flaming libs, so they'll never receive this honor. Music critics have never liked them because of their libertarian-leaning lyrics.
4 posted on 03/31/2009 11:21:08 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: OCCASparky

Maybe because Rush is just plain LAME!

I know I am going to get a storm of “Well who do you like?” and then no matter who I say I like I will get the “They are more lame than Rush!”


5 posted on 03/31/2009 11:22:07 AM PDT by Holicheese (Gimme Gimme Gimme!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Wow, Genesis isn’t in either? That’s a crock as well.


6 posted on 03/31/2009 11:22:18 AM PDT by CharlieOK1 (Don't blame me, I voted for Sarah)
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To: My Favorite Headache

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducts Run DMC, but rejects Rush, Yes, the Moody Blues, Jethro Tull, the Electric Light Orchestra, Genesis and Emerson, Lake and Palmer.

Go figure.


7 posted on 03/31/2009 11:23:29 AM PDT by earlJam
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To: My Favorite Headache
A great band. They are big baseball fans, and also manned spaceflight fans as well. Some typical lyrics:

"The Trees"

There is unrest in the forest
There is trouble with the trees
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas

The trouble with the maples
(And they're quite convinced they're right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade

There is trouble in the forest
And the creatures all have fled
As the maples scream 'Oppression!'
And the oaks just shake their heads

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights
'The oaks are just too greedy
We will make them give us light'
Now there's no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe and saw.


8 posted on 03/31/2009 11:24:28 AM PDT by Paradox (When the left have no one to villainize, they'll turn on each other.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Check out this drum solo from Rush's 2002 concert tour.
9 posted on 03/31/2009 11:24:58 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: earlJam

Criminal, that.


10 posted on 03/31/2009 11:25:04 AM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: My Favorite Headache

I was a huge Rush fan in the 70s, but they lost me after Farewell to Kings.

Their post-Kings output isn’t my cup of tea, but no one can deny that they are excellent musicians and a superb band creating some impressive and original music.

I don’t have any opionion on the R&R HOF, except that it seems kind of silly.


11 posted on 03/31/2009 11:25:31 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: My Favorite Headache
I remember buying a Rush album 35 years ago and my friends holding their noses.
12 posted on 03/31/2009 11:26:43 AM PDT by Ciexyz (I heard Joe the Plumber speak 03-30-2009.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Neal Peart: the best drummer in all of music.


13 posted on 03/31/2009 11:27:54 AM PDT by Raster Man
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To: BradyLS

Incredibly talented trio, always evolving...


14 posted on 03/31/2009 11:29:53 AM PDT by ropin71 (God Bless our Troops!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Geddy Lee should be recognized as the worst singer in the history of pop music.


15 posted on 03/31/2009 11:35:19 AM PDT by Keltik ("The goal should not be diversity -- the goal must be Quality.")
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To: Disambiguator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O24PlnSiiaQ

2008


16 posted on 03/31/2009 11:35:30 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (An oath to a liar is no oath at all)
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To: Holicheese
"Maybe because Rush is just plain LAME!"

Blasphemer!!!!!! Get the rocks. Lame?? Really??? Neil Peart is arguably one of the best drummers ever. Geddy Lee is an octopus as well as a fantastic bassist, and Alex Lifeson has always been under appreciated for his guitar work.

When they ask modern rock groups, who were your inspirations, Rush is always on the vast majority of lists. It is a travesty that they've been kept out of the hall of fame this long. Hell Madonna was inducted. Madonna???

17 posted on 03/31/2009 11:35:31 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Is King Crimson in?


18 posted on 03/31/2009 11:37:37 AM PDT by CharlieOK1 (Don't blame me, I voted for Sarah)
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To: CharlieOK1

Genesis isn’t in!?!?! They deserve a wing all to their own just for “Supper’s Ready”!


19 posted on 03/31/2009 11:37:44 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Refugee from the World of Doomed Olsens)
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To: Major Matt Mason
Rush aren't flaming libs, so they'll never receive this honor.

Didn't they dedicate one of their albums to Ayn Rand?

20 posted on 03/31/2009 11:37:47 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: My Favorite Headache

Their politics aside, this is my favorite RUSH song:

“Red Barchetta”

My uncle has a country place
That no one knows about
He says it used to be a farm
Before the Motor Law
And on Sundays I elude the eyes
And hop the Turbine Freight
To far outside the Wire
Where my white-haired uncle waits

Jump to the ground
As the Turbo slows to cross the borderline
Run like the wind
As excitement shivers up and down my spine
Down in his barn
My uncle preserved for me an old machine
For fifty odd years
To keep it as new has been his dearest dream

I strip away the old debris
That hides a shining car
A brilliant red Barchetta
From a better vanished time
I fire up the willing engine
Responding with a roar
Tires spitting gravel
I commit my weekly crime

Wind
In my hair
Shifting and drifting
Mechanical music
Adrenaline surge...

Well-weathered leather
Hot metal and oil
The scented country air
Sunlight on chrome
The blur of the landscape
Every nerve aware

Suddenly ahead of me
Across the mountainside
A gleaming alloy air car
Shoots towards me, two lanes wide
I spin around with shrieking tires
To run the deadly race
Go screaming through the valley
As another joins the chase

Drive like the wind
Straining the limits of machine and man
Laughing out loud with fear and hope
I’ve got a desperate plan
At the one-lane bridge
I leave the giants stranded at the riverside
Race back to the farm
To dream with my uncle at the fireside


21 posted on 03/31/2009 11:37:59 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (As 0bama punishes us, we will punish his supporters ten fold.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

http://www.rockhall.com/inductees/inductee-list/

The list. Plenty of non-rock-and-roll there, but as stated above no prog rock. Nice.


22 posted on 03/31/2009 11:38:02 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: My Favorite Headache

Rush was a rockstar? Who knew?


23 posted on 03/31/2009 11:38:18 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: DBrow

List of bands not in as of 2007 and their eligible dates next to them...some have waited decades already..remember Jann says next is LL Cool J, Run DMC and the list of rappers to come next because “we are running out of rock artists...”ohhhhhhreally?:

2006: ABC, Aztec Camera, Bad Religion, Billy Idol, David Byrne, Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, Eurythmics, Hanoi Rocks, Hüsker Dü, Meat Puppets, Ministry, Minor Threat, Mission of Burma, Mötley Crüe, New Order, Phil Collins, The Replacements, Robyn Hitchcock, Soft Cell, Stevie Nicks, Stray Cats, The The, Thompson Twins, ...

2005 Christopher Cross, English Beat, The Go-Betweens, The Go-Go’s, Huey Lewis and The News, INXS, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Kurtis Blow, Loverboy, Minutemen, Ozzy Osbourne, Robert Cray, The Sisters of Mercy, UB40, Willie Nile, ...

2004 The B-52’s, Bauhaus, Bryan Adams, The Dead Kennedys, Def Leppard, Descendents, Dexys Midnight Runners, Echo and the Bunnymen, Iron Maiden, Killing Joke, Lucinda Williams, Pat Benatar, The Psychedelic Furs, Rickie Lee Jones, Simple Minds, The Slits, The Specials, Survivor, “Weird Al” Yankovic, ...

2003 Black Flag, The Cars, The Cramps, The Cure, David Gilmour, Devo, Dire Straits, The Fall, Gang of Four, Gary Numan, Generation X, Harry Connick Jr., The Human League, Joe Jackson, Joy Division, Kate Bush, Los Lobos, Midnight Oil, The Misfits, The Neville Brothers, Pere Ubu, Public Image Ltd., Rick James, Ronnie Montrose, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Squeeze, Toto, The Undertones, Whitesnake, X, ...

2002 Amy Grant, The Boomtown Rats, The Buzzcocks, Cheap Trick, Chic, Eddie Money, Foreigner, George Thorogood, Iggy Pop, The Jam, Motörhead, Peter Gabriel, Suicide, Teddy Pendergrass, Television, The Village People, Wire, XTC, ...
2001 Air Supply, Boston, Graham Parker, Heart, John Mellencamp, Luther Vandross, The Modern Lovers, Sammy Hagar, ...

2000 The Alan Parsons Project, Alex Chilton, Journey, Michael Bolton, Natalie Cole, Split Enz, Ted Nugent, The Trammps, ...

1999 Bad Company, Brian Eno, The Commodores, Donna Summer, Jefferson Starship, Judas Priest, Kansas, KISS, The Residents, Robert Palmer, Rufus & Chaka Khan, ...
1998 ABBA, Augustus Pablo, Bachman-Turner Overdrive, Barry Manilow, Barry White, Darlene Love, John Fogerty, Lindsey Buckingham, Montrose, New York Dolls, Rush, Stealer’s Wheel, Tina Turner, Tom Waits, ...

1997 Bette Midler, Big Star, The Blossoms, Blue Öyster Cult, Dan Fogelberg, Foghat, Hall & Oates, Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes, Joe Walsh, Lou Reed, Pete Townshend, Peter Frampton, Richard Thompson, Roxy Music, Scorpions, Styx, Triumvirat, ...

1996 America, Bill Withers, Carly Simon, The Doobie Brothers, Electric Light Orchestra, Gerry Rafferty, J.J. Cale, Kraftwerk, Little Feat, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Meat Loaf, Olivia Newton-John, REO Speedwagon, Robert Wyatt, Rory Gallagher, Steve Winwood, The Stylistics, Thin Lizzy, War, Yoko Ono, ...

1995 Badfinger, Bruce Cockburn, Derek and the Dominos, Diana Ross, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, The Faces, Gentle Giant, The J. Geils Band, Jimmy Buffett, Mountain, Ringo Starr, Ry Cooder, Steeleye Span, Supertramp, Sweet, Todd Rundgren, Uriah Heep, ...

1994 Alice Cooper, Blind Faith, Bread, The Carpenters, The Chi-Lites, Chicago, The Flying Burrito Brothers, Grand Funk Railroad, Joe Cocker, John Denver, Johnny Maestro & the Brooklyn Bridge, Johnny Winter, King Crimson, Kool & the Gang, Linda Ronstadt, The Meters, Mott the Hoople, Nick Drake, Poco, Rick Springfield, The Stooges, Three Dog Night, Warren Zevon, Yes, ...

1993 Al Kooper, Blood Sweat & Tears, Blue Cheer, Brian Auger, Can, Deep Purple, Dr. John, Emmylou Harris, Genesis, Jethro Tull, Leon Russell, Leonard Cohen, The Sir Douglas Quintet, Steppenwolf, Steve Miller Band, T. Rex, ...

1992 The Bar-Kays, Bobby Womack, Canned Heat, Country Joe & the Fish, Fairport Convention, Gram Parsons, Harry Nilsson, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Cliff, Johnnie Taylor, Laura Nyro, Procol Harum, Ten Years After, ...

1991 Captain Beefheart, Cat Stevens, The Grass Roots, Jim Croce, Love, MC5, The Monkees, Neil Diamond, Scott Walker, The Small Faces, Tim Buckley, Tommy James & the Shondells, ...

1990 Albert Collins, Boz Scaggs, Cher, The Chieftains, Donovan, The Guess Who, Joe Tex, John Cale, John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers, Junior Walker & the All-Stars, Junior Wells, Merle Haggard, Nico, Randy Newman, The Shangri-Las, The Sonics, Sonny & Cher, The Turtles, ...

1989 The Dave Clark Five, The Dixie Cups, The Hollies, Johnny Rivers, Marianne Faithfull, The Moody Blues, Son House, Them, Waylon Jennings, The Zombies, ...

1988 Billy Preston, The Chiffons, The Crystals, Dionne Warwick, Dolly Parton, Lesley Gore, Loretta Lynn, The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, The Rocky Fellers, Rufus Thomas, ...

1987 Barbra Streisand, The Contours, Dee Dee Sharp, Dick Dale, Glen Campbell, The Kingsmen, ...

1986 Ben E. King, Brian Hyland, Carla Thomas, The Marvelettes, Mary Wells, Paul Revere & the Raiders, Willie Nelson, ...

1985 Bobby Vee, Chubby Checker, Cliff Richard & the Shadows, Link Wray, The Ventures, ...

1984 Brook Benton, Carole King, Conway Twitty, Eric Dolphy, Huey “Piano” Smith and the Clowns, Jerry Butler, King Curtis, Little Anthony & the Imperials, Neil Sedaka, The Penguins, Roy Brown, Sonny Boy Williamson, ...

1983 The Chantels, Connie Francis, The Dominoes, Junior Parker, Ornette Coleman, Paul Anka, Serge Gainsbourg, Wanda Jackson, ...

1982 The Cadillacs, Chuck Willis, Danny & the Juniors, George Jones, Johnny Mathis, Patsy Cline, Screamin’ Jay Hawkins, ...

1981 The “5” Royales, Bill Evans, The Clovers, The Five Satins, Herbie Hancock, John Coltrane, Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio, Lee Morgan, ...

1980 Jack Scott, Johnny Ace, ...


24 posted on 03/31/2009 11:38:42 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (An oath to a liar is no oath at all)
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To: Raster Man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFxKrIVsa7w


25 posted on 03/31/2009 11:38:56 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Keltik
Geddy Lee should be recognized as the worst singer in the history of pop music.

BUMP

26 posted on 03/31/2009 11:39:24 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Raster Man
Neal Peart: the best drummer in all of music.

With all due respect, you need to check out Art Blakey and get back to us. . .
27 posted on 03/31/2009 11:39:24 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Refugee from the World of Doomed Olsens)
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To: rednesss
Madonna was inducted.

That's all anyone needs to know about how seriously to take the R&R HOF.

28 posted on 03/31/2009 11:40:17 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Raster Man
Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater might be winning by a nose there.

But once again he lists his biggest influence as Neil Peart. Don't get me wrong, I think Neil is fantastic.

Portnoy names his biggest influences as Rush drummer Neil Peart and composer/guitarist Frank Zappa. Other favorites include drummers Terry Bozzio, Vinnie Colaiuta, Peter Criss, Simon Phillips, John Bonham, Vinnie Paul, Carl Palmer, Keith Moon, Ringo Starr, Phil Collins, Bill Bruford, and bands such as Rush, The Beatles, Queen, Yes, Led Zeppelin, The Who, Genesis, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Pink Floyd, Tool, Meshuggah, Pantera, Muse, Metallica, Megadeth, Jellyfish, Iron Maiden, KISS, Phish, Deep Purple, Radiohead, Umphrey's McGee, U2 and Jane's Addiction.

Portnoy has won 23 awards from Modern Drummer magazine, including "Best Up & Coming Talent" (one time), "Best Clinician" (two times), "Best Educational Video/DVD" (two times), "Best recorded performance" (6 times) and "Best Progressive Rock Drummer" (for 12 consecutive years), and is also the second youngest person (at 37 years of age) to be inducted into the Rock Drummer Hall of Fame since Neil Peart was inducted in 1983 (at 31 years of age).

29 posted on 03/31/2009 11:40:18 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Has The Hall left anyone out? Found one...Evette Evil, And The Daughters of Darkness.


30 posted on 03/31/2009 11:40:32 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

No Jack Scott? No Johnny Burnette? No Clovers? No Link Wray? No Screamin’ Jay Hawkins?!?!?! What a joke!


31 posted on 03/31/2009 11:42:16 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Refugee from the World of Doomed Olsens)
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To: mnehring
Didn't they dedicate one of their albums to Ayn Rand?

I first heard of Ayn Rand when reading an article on Rush in the 1970s.

32 posted on 03/31/2009 11:43:04 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Paradox

Dedicating an album to Ayn Rand won’t get you anywhere
in that decadent industry.
Their individualist lyrics and superior musicianship puts them head and shoulders above almost any other band ever.
And that is what keeps them out of the RRHOF.
However, I don’t think they particularly care to be lumped
in with the likes of Madonna(?) and other assorted dregs anyway.
Which reminds me, I will order “A Farewell To Kings” and “Hemispheres” today to replace my vinyl(!) that I wore out long ago.


33 posted on 03/31/2009 11:45:19 AM PDT by gigster
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

What about Dave Weckl???


34 posted on 03/31/2009 11:45:47 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I likes me old Rush tunes.....


35 posted on 03/31/2009 11:46:18 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: Skooz

Yes, 2112 was dedicated to Ayn Rand.


36 posted on 03/31/2009 11:46:33 AM PDT by gigster
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To: Skooz

Neil Peart has always written just about everything that Rush does, he was into Ayn Rand way back when.


37 posted on 03/31/2009 11:46:50 AM PDT by rednesss (fascism is the union,marriage,merger or fusion of corporate economic power with governmental power)
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To: mnehring

2112 is based on her writings.


39 posted on 03/31/2009 11:47:37 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Skooz

Anthem

Know your place in life is where you want to be
Don’t let them tell you that you owe it all to me
Keep on looking forward...no use in looking ‘round
Hold your head above the ground and they won’t bring you down

Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind
A funeral dirge for eyes gone blind
We marvel after those who sought
The wonders of the world, wonders of the world
Wonders of the world they wrought

Live for yourself...there’s no one else
More worth living for
Begging hands and bleeding hearts will only cry out for more

Well, I know they’ve always told you
Selfishness was wrong
Yet it was for me, not you, I came to write this song


40 posted on 03/31/2009 11:49:08 AM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Skooz

Just curious; why did they lose you w/Farewell and after?


41 posted on 03/31/2009 11:49:27 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Rush use to be into Ayn Rand and that might of sealed their fate. As far as progressives bands go, the ones mentioned are just the tip of the iceberg. There is also: Camel, King Crimson, Bep Bop Deluxe, Primus, UK, Asia, Gentle Giant, Strawbs, 801, Roxy Music, Dream Theater... and, perhaps the most well-known, Lynyrd Skynyrd.
42 posted on 03/31/2009 11:50:19 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Niteranger68
Their politics aside, this is my favorite RUSH song:

I've been listening to that song a lot lately.

My heart aches for our country, and the direction it's taken. This song is not so much a warning as a prediction, IMHO.

43 posted on 03/31/2009 11:50:53 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Rush should not be inducted until YES is.


44 posted on 03/31/2009 11:54:09 AM PDT by WackySam (The fact that there are 24 hours in a day, and 24 beers in a case, is not a coincidence.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Just curious; why did they lose you w/Farewell and after?

Hard to say. But, the music of their new direction just didn't appeal to me. I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it enough to go buy the album, either.

45 posted on 03/31/2009 11:55:35 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Jeff Beck is being inducted according to his website. This rebuffs the “no progressive rock band” gripe IMO.


46 posted on 03/31/2009 11:56:01 AM PDT by lormand
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To: My Favorite Headache

The website indicates the inductees over-represent a particular racial group.

http://www.rockhall.com/inductees/inductee-list/


47 posted on 03/31/2009 11:56:15 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: My Favorite Headache

ALICE COOPER!!!!!!!!!!!


48 posted on 03/31/2009 11:58:20 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I know you didn’t address this to me RD, but I lost some interest when they when to the synthesizer.
They picked me back up when they did “Test For Echo”.


49 posted on 03/31/2009 11:58:29 AM PDT by gigster
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To: Skooz

I really only knew 2112 growing up; can’t say they were a real appealing album...I didn’t notice many catchy hooks or melodies. But the concept/story of that record was interesting to me.

They are definitely a cerebral band; my SO says they were done in by the arrival of MTV, since they aren’t really camera-friendly.


50 posted on 03/31/2009 11:59:36 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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