Skip to comments.Why the Rock Hall says: No Rush for you!
Posted on 03/31/2009 11:13:32 AM PDT by My Favorite HeadacheEdited on 03/31/2009 11:14:50 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Geddy Lee and Neil Peart of Rush arrive at the Dreamworks' premiere of "I Love You, Man." And while Paul Rudd and Jason Segel may love the band, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame sure doesn't.
When the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame holds its annual induction ceremony April 4, there once again won’t be any progressive rock artists amongst its five honorees. The Rock Hall’s snubbing of the once-popular genre hasn’t gone unnoticed by its supporters.
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If all the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame honored was rock-n-roll acts, that would be one thing. But I guess they have to decide to keep SOMEBODY out, lest people figure out it ain’t really about rock-n-roll, anyway.
Probably the best band not in the R&R HOF. And certainly more deserving that some of the people/bands currently there.
Maybe because Rush is just plain LAME!
I know I am going to get a storm of “Well who do you like?” and then no matter who I say I like I will get the “They are more lame than Rush!”
Wow, Genesis isn’t in either? That’s a crock as well.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducts Run DMC, but rejects Rush, Yes, the Moody Blues, Jethro Tull, the Electric Light Orchestra, Genesis and Emerson, Lake and Palmer.
"The Trees" There is unrest in the forest There is trouble with the trees For the maples want more sunlight And the oaks ignore their pleas The trouble with the maples (And they're quite convinced they're right) They say the oaks are just too lofty And they grab up all the light But the oaks can't help their feelings If they like the way they're made And they wonder why the maples Can't be happy in their shade There is trouble in the forest And the creatures all have fled As the maples scream 'Oppression!' And the oaks just shake their heads So the maples formed a union And demanded equal rights 'The oaks are just too greedy We will make them give us light' Now there's no more oak oppression For they passed a noble law And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe and saw.
I was a huge Rush fan in the 70s, but they lost me after Farewell to Kings.
Their post-Kings output isn’t my cup of tea, but no one can deny that they are excellent musicians and a superb band creating some impressive and original music.
I don’t have any opionion on the R&R HOF, except that it seems kind of silly.
Neal Peart: the best drummer in all of music.
Incredibly talented trio, always evolving...
Geddy Lee should be recognized as the worst singer in the history of pop music.
Blasphemer!!!!!! Get the rocks. Lame?? Really??? Neil Peart is arguably one of the best drummers ever. Geddy Lee is an octopus as well as a fantastic bassist, and Alex Lifeson has always been under appreciated for his guitar work.
When they ask modern rock groups, who were your inspirations, Rush is always on the vast majority of lists. It is a travesty that they've been kept out of the hall of fame this long. Hell Madonna was inducted. Madonna???
Is King Crimson in?
Genesis isn’t in!?!?! They deserve a wing all to their own just for “Supper’s Ready”!
Didn't they dedicate one of their albums to Ayn Rand?
Their politics aside, this is my favorite RUSH song:
My uncle has a country place
That no one knows about
He says it used to be a farm
Before the Motor Law
And on Sundays I elude the eyes
And hop the Turbine Freight
To far outside the Wire
Where my white-haired uncle waits
Jump to the ground
As the Turbo slows to cross the borderline
Run like the wind
As excitement shivers up and down my spine
Down in his barn
My uncle preserved for me an old machine
For fifty odd years
To keep it as new has been his dearest dream
I strip away the old debris
That hides a shining car
A brilliant red Barchetta
From a better vanished time
I fire up the willing engine
Responding with a roar
Tires spitting gravel
I commit my weekly crime
In my hair
Shifting and drifting
Hot metal and oil
The scented country air
Sunlight on chrome
The blur of the landscape
Every nerve aware
Suddenly ahead of me
Across the mountainside
A gleaming alloy air car
Shoots towards me, two lanes wide
I spin around with shrieking tires
To run the deadly race
Go screaming through the valley
As another joins the chase
Drive like the wind
Straining the limits of machine and man
Laughing out loud with fear and hope
I’ve got a desperate plan
At the one-lane bridge
I leave the giants stranded at the riverside
Race back to the farm
To dream with my uncle at the fireside
The list. Plenty of non-rock-and-roll there, but as stated above no prog rock. Nice.
Rush was a rockstar? Who knew?
List of bands not in as of 2007 and their eligible dates next to them...some have waited decades already..remember Jann says next is LL Cool J, Run DMC and the list of rappers to come next because “we are running out of rock artists...”ohhhhhhreally?:
2006: ABC, Aztec Camera, Bad Religion, Billy Idol, David Byrne, Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, Eurythmics, Hanoi Rocks, Hüsker Dü, Meat Puppets, Ministry, Minor Threat, Mission of Burma, Mötley Crüe, New Order, Phil Collins, The Replacements, Robyn Hitchcock, Soft Cell, Stevie Nicks, Stray Cats, The The, Thompson Twins, ...
2005 Christopher Cross, English Beat, The Go-Betweens, The Go-Go’s, Huey Lewis and The News, INXS, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Kurtis Blow, Loverboy, Minutemen, Ozzy Osbourne, Robert Cray, The Sisters of Mercy, UB40, Willie Nile, ...
2004 The B-52’s, Bauhaus, Bryan Adams, The Dead Kennedys, Def Leppard, Descendents, Dexys Midnight Runners, Echo and the Bunnymen, Iron Maiden, Killing Joke, Lucinda Williams, Pat Benatar, The Psychedelic Furs, Rickie Lee Jones, Simple Minds, The Slits, The Specials, Survivor, Weird Al Yankovic, ...
2003 Black Flag, The Cars, The Cramps, The Cure, David Gilmour, Devo, Dire Straits, The Fall, Gang of Four, Gary Numan, Generation X, Harry Connick Jr., The Human League, Joe Jackson, Joy Division, Kate Bush, Los Lobos, Midnight Oil, The Misfits, The Neville Brothers, Pere Ubu, Public Image Ltd., Rick James, Ronnie Montrose, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Squeeze, Toto, The Undertones, Whitesnake, X, ...
2002 Amy Grant, The Boomtown Rats, The Buzzcocks, Cheap Trick, Chic, Eddie Money, Foreigner, George Thorogood, Iggy Pop, The Jam, Motörhead, Peter Gabriel, Suicide, Teddy Pendergrass, Television, The Village People, Wire, XTC, ...
2001 Air Supply, Boston, Graham Parker, Heart, John Mellencamp, Luther Vandross, The Modern Lovers, Sammy Hagar, ...
2000 The Alan Parsons Project, Alex Chilton, Journey, Michael Bolton, Natalie Cole, Split Enz, Ted Nugent, The Trammps, ...
1999 Bad Company, Brian Eno, The Commodores, Donna Summer, Jefferson Starship, Judas Priest, Kansas, KISS, The Residents, Robert Palmer, Rufus & Chaka Khan, ...
1998 ABBA, Augustus Pablo, Bachman-Turner Overdrive, Barry Manilow, Barry White, Darlene Love, John Fogerty, Lindsey Buckingham, Montrose, New York Dolls, Rush, Stealer’s Wheel, Tina Turner, Tom Waits, ...
1997 Bette Midler, Big Star, The Blossoms, Blue Öyster Cult, Dan Fogelberg, Foghat, Hall & Oates, Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes, Joe Walsh, Lou Reed, Pete Townshend, Peter Frampton, Richard Thompson, Roxy Music, Scorpions, Styx, Triumvirat, ...
1996 America, Bill Withers, Carly Simon, The Doobie Brothers, Electric Light Orchestra, Gerry Rafferty, J.J. Cale, Kraftwerk, Little Feat, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Meat Loaf, Olivia Newton-John, REO Speedwagon, Robert Wyatt, Rory Gallagher, Steve Winwood, The Stylistics, Thin Lizzy, War, Yoko Ono, ...
1995 Badfinger, Bruce Cockburn, Derek and the Dominos, Diana Ross, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, The Faces, Gentle Giant, The J. Geils Band, Jimmy Buffett, Mountain, Ringo Starr, Ry Cooder, Steeleye Span, Supertramp, Sweet, Todd Rundgren, Uriah Heep, ...
1994 Alice Cooper, Blind Faith, Bread, The Carpenters, The Chi-Lites, Chicago, The Flying Burrito Brothers, Grand Funk Railroad, Joe Cocker, John Denver, Johnny Maestro & the Brooklyn Bridge, Johnny Winter, King Crimson, Kool & the Gang, Linda Ronstadt, The Meters, Mott the Hoople, Nick Drake, Poco, Rick Springfield, The Stooges, Three Dog Night, Warren Zevon, Yes, ...
1993 Al Kooper, Blood Sweat & Tears, Blue Cheer, Brian Auger, Can, Deep Purple, Dr. John, Emmylou Harris, Genesis, Jethro Tull, Leon Russell, Leonard Cohen, The Sir Douglas Quintet, Steppenwolf, Steve Miller Band, T. Rex, ...
1992 The Bar-Kays, Bobby Womack, Canned Heat, Country Joe & the Fish, Fairport Convention, Gram Parsons, Harry Nilsson, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Cliff, Johnnie Taylor, Laura Nyro, Procol Harum, Ten Years After, ...
1991 Captain Beefheart, Cat Stevens, The Grass Roots, Jim Croce, Love, MC5, The Monkees, Neil Diamond, Scott Walker, The Small Faces, Tim Buckley, Tommy James & the Shondells, ...
1990 Albert Collins, Boz Scaggs, Cher, The Chieftains, Donovan, The Guess Who, Joe Tex, John Cale, John Mayall & the Bluesbreakers, Junior Walker & the All-Stars, Junior Wells, Merle Haggard, Nico, Randy Newman, The Shangri-Las, The Sonics, Sonny & Cher, The Turtles, ...
1989 The Dave Clark Five, The Dixie Cups, The Hollies, Johnny Rivers, Marianne Faithfull, The Moody Blues, Son House, Them, Waylon Jennings, The Zombies, ...
1988 Billy Preston, The Chiffons, The Crystals, Dionne Warwick, Dolly Parton, Lesley Gore, Loretta Lynn, The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, The Rocky Fellers, Rufus Thomas, ...
1987 Barbra Streisand, The Contours, Dee Dee Sharp, Dick Dale, Glen Campbell, The Kingsmen, ...
1986 Ben E. King, Brian Hyland, Carla Thomas, The Marvelettes, Mary Wells, Paul Revere & the Raiders, Willie Nelson, ...
1985 Bobby Vee, Chubby Checker, Cliff Richard & the Shadows, Link Wray, The Ventures, ...
1984 Brook Benton, Carole King, Conway Twitty, Eric Dolphy, Huey Piano Smith and the Clowns, Jerry Butler, King Curtis, Little Anthony & the Imperials, Neil Sedaka, The Penguins, Roy Brown, Sonny Boy Williamson, ...
1983 The Chantels, Connie Francis, The Dominoes, Junior Parker, Ornette Coleman, Paul Anka, Serge Gainsbourg, Wanda Jackson, ...
1982 The Cadillacs, Chuck Willis, Danny & the Juniors, George Jones, Johnny Mathis, Patsy Cline, Screamin’ Jay Hawkins, ...
1981 The 5 Royales, Bill Evans, The Clovers, The Five Satins, Herbie Hancock, John Coltrane, Johnny Burnette and the Rock N Roll Trio, Lee Morgan, ...
1980 Jack Scott, Johnny Ace, ...
That's all anyone needs to know about how seriously to take the R&R HOF.
But once again he lists his biggest influence as Neil Peart. Don't get me wrong, I think Neil is fantastic.
Portnoy names his biggest influences as Rush drummer Neil Peart and composer/guitarist Frank Zappa. Other favorites include drummers Terry Bozzio, Vinnie Colaiuta, Peter Criss, Simon Phillips, John Bonham, Vinnie Paul, Carl Palmer, Keith Moon, Ringo Starr, Phil Collins, Bill Bruford, and bands such as Rush, The Beatles, Queen, Yes, Led Zeppelin, The Who, Genesis, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Pink Floyd, Tool, Meshuggah, Pantera, Muse, Metallica, Megadeth, Jellyfish, Iron Maiden, KISS, Phish, Deep Purple, Radiohead, Umphrey's McGee, U2 and Jane's Addiction.
Portnoy has won 23 awards from Modern Drummer magazine, including "Best Up & Coming Talent" (one time), "Best Clinician" (two times), "Best Educational Video/DVD" (two times), "Best recorded performance" (6 times) and "Best Progressive Rock Drummer" (for 12 consecutive years), and is also the second youngest person (at 37 years of age) to be inducted into the Rock Drummer Hall of Fame since Neil Peart was inducted in 1983 (at 31 years of age).
Has The Hall left anyone out? Found one...Evette Evil, And The Daughters of Darkness.
No Jack Scott? No Johnny Burnette? No Clovers? No Link Wray? No Screamin’ Jay Hawkins?!?!?! What a joke!
I first heard of Ayn Rand when reading an article on Rush in the 1970s.
Dedicating an album to Ayn Rand won’t get you anywhere
in that decadent industry.
Their individualist lyrics and superior musicianship puts them head and shoulders above almost any other band ever.
And that is what keeps them out of the RRHOF.
However, I don’t think they particularly care to be lumped
in with the likes of Madonna(?) and other assorted dregs anyway.
Which reminds me, I will order “A Farewell To Kings” and “Hemispheres” today to replace my vinyl(!) that I wore out long ago.
What about Dave Weckl???
I likes me old Rush tunes.....
Yes, 2112 was dedicated to Ayn Rand.
Neil Peart has always written just about everything that Rush does, he was into Ayn Rand way back when.
2112 is based on her writings.
Know your place in life is where you want to be
Don’t let them tell you that you owe it all to me
Keep on looking forward...no use in looking ‘round
Hold your head above the ground and they won’t bring you down
Anthem of the heart and anthem of the mind
A funeral dirge for eyes gone blind
We marvel after those who sought
The wonders of the world, wonders of the world
Wonders of the world they wrought
Live for yourself...there’s no one else
More worth living for
Begging hands and bleeding hearts will only cry out for more
Well, I know they’ve always told you
Selfishness was wrong
Yet it was for me, not you, I came to write this song
Just curious; why did they lose you w/Farewell and after?
I've been listening to that song a lot lately.
My heart aches for our country, and the direction it's taken. This song is not so much a warning as a prediction, IMHO.
Rush should not be inducted until YES is.
Hard to say. But, the music of their new direction just didn't appeal to me. I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it enough to go buy the album, either.
Jeff Beck is being inducted according to his website. This rebuffs the “no progressive rock band” gripe IMO.
The website indicates the inductees over-represent a particular racial group.
I know you didn’t address this to me RD, but I lost some interest when they when to the synthesizer.
They picked me back up when they did “Test For Echo”.
I really only knew 2112 growing up; can’t say they were a real appealing album...I didn’t notice many catchy hooks or melodies. But the concept/story of that record was interesting to me.
They are definitely a cerebral band; my SO says they were done in by the arrival of MTV, since they aren’t really camera-friendly.
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