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To Obama's "we aren't in war with Islam", well, 'Islam is at war with us'

Posted on 04/06/2009 3:40:14 PM PDT by Milagros

To Obama's "we aren't in war with Islam", well, 'Islam is at war with us'

Is Obama trying to rewrite history or what?

Didn't Islamic Iran hijack our people and declared a war on the "great Satan - US" in 1979?

Didn't Iran's Hezbollah thugs massacre Americans in the 1980s Lebanon (where they've been on a mission to support pro-western type government in Beirut)?

Who shot Bobby Kenney?

Was the Islamic massacre by (mostly) "friendly" Saudi Arabs on 3,000 innocent people (911) before or after the Iraq war has started?

What's Obama's res[onse to Iran's Ahmadinejad's "ultimatum" to the west "convert or die"?

Why is he digging his head in the sand when Palestinians [in Gaza] support Caliphate?

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These are just from today's "usual" news:

Double bombing kills seven, one day before Indian PM visits The ULFA... has links to Islamic militants...

Somali pirates seize British-owned ship Malaspina Castle | World ...guardian.co.uk, Monday 6 April 2009 11.33 BST. Somali pirates have seized a British-owned ship in the Gulf of Aden, maritime officials said today

On bloody day in Baghdad, bombings kill 32, wound dozens


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: clashofcivilizations; crushislam; isla; islam; islamofascism; jihad; obama; rop; turkey; wot; zero; zerotalkinagain

1 posted on 04/06/2009 3:40:14 PM PDT by Milagros
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To: Milagros

Probably the most stupid and dangerous thing I’ve heard him decree yet.


2 posted on 04/06/2009 3:42:54 PM PDT by Edgar3 (America is suffering from "Sorosis" of the Presidency)
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'Convert or die' - Ahmadinejad

Islamic republic of Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tells the West to convert to Islam or die.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/06/061206101357.8mjamnal.html ---

Compare Hamas statements and its charter to those of al-Qaeda, Hizbullah and other Islamist organizations. All strive to establish a caliphate...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21082

Villagers with Torches: HAMAS - template for the new caliphate ...GERTZ: The Iranian-sponsored Hizbullah has been impressed with the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip. The question debated within the Lebanese movement is ...
http://vwt.d2g.com:8081/2007/07/hamas_template_for_the_new_cal.html

Fatah leaders meet to discuss Hamas... The relatively small party, which is seen as more extreme than Hamas, ... declaring an Islamic caliphate in the Gaza Strip during Friday prayers, ...
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525933042&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Hamas: Tel Aviv suicide bombing legitimate, Hamas has continuously claimed it is legitimate to arbitrarily murder women, children or anyone to put Hamas in power of its portion of the Caliphate. ...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011067.php

HAMAS’ children magazine, Al Fateh’s call to return Seville “to the hands of ... their targets to include the rest of the Caliphate – beginning with Spain. ...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20726

Hamas - in their own words. Many people (myself included) have wondered about the nature of Hamas, ... and so will continue to fight as long as Spain remains outside of the Caliphate. ...
http://www.command-post.org/oped/2_archives/001786.html

Most Arabs Would Prefer a Bin Laden-Led Caliphate to Secular ..."[Hamas believes that] Palestine is an Islamic endowment of [Caliph] Omar [ibn Al-Khattab]... The Hamas leadership believes in this, and they cannot deny it
http://www.persecution.org/suffering/newssummpopup.php?newscode=5814&PHPSESSID=6f2712f67320d43b9c43b8beff4a240d

Understanding the Direction of the New Hamas Government - Lt. Col ...As a first step in the direction of pragmatism, Hamas proclaimed after the January .... reviving the idea of the caliphate in the hearts of the Muslims, ...
http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief005-22.htm

3 posted on 04/06/2009 3:43:35 PM PDT by Milagros
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To: Edgar3
Probably the most stupid and dangerous thing I’ve heard him decree yet.

Interesting to note that 90% of Turkey is still AGAINST US.

4 posted on 04/06/2009 3:44:53 PM PDT by Milagros
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To: Milagros

Oh no, you’ve got it **all** wrong. It’s all just one big misunderstanding, that’s all. All those facts you listed? That’s just a minority of bad apples. The doctrine of jihad is really just a pacifist program of disagreement, really.

Sorry, I’m channeling leftist apologists on that one.


5 posted on 04/06/2009 3:45:23 PM PDT by Elian Gonzales
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To: Elian Gonzales
Including 90% of Turks that hate us (as polled and quoted on CNN), these are as much on the “fringe” as Jihad is in “moderate” Islam...
6 posted on 04/06/2009 3:48:16 PM PDT by Milagros
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To: Edgar3

Yeah but didn’t Bush say the same thing? What’s the alternative? Declaring that we ARE at war with a world religion and trying to eradicate it and a billion people?


7 posted on 04/06/2009 3:48:32 PM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Elian Gonzales

I knew a number of Muslims in a city I used to live in, all of them related. I have to say I really liked all of them. I knew the wives and the children and I have to say they were good people.

Yet,after 9/11, I could not help but wonder if they would come to my defense in the face of one of those “bad apples” attacking me.....


8 posted on 04/06/2009 3:51:26 PM PDT by Kimmers (Working hard so Obamas friends don't have to)
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To: Milagros
It's RADICAL Islam we're at war with, you creepy rodent!

(....not you, Milagros).

Leni

9 posted on 04/06/2009 3:51:36 PM PDT by MinuteGal (FR Regional Convention (southeastern states) 4/25 Orlando....Y'all Invited. Freepmail Me for Info)
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To: Milagros
"This is not a war against Islam." -George Bush several times over the last eight years
10 posted on 04/06/2009 3:51:51 PM PDT by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: Edgar3

ZERO’s Big ‘Ol HOLE!!!

11 posted on 04/06/2009 3:52:48 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Sounds good to me.


12 posted on 04/06/2009 4:01:26 PM PDT by nobama08
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To: Edgar3; Milagros

You said — “Probably the most stupid and dangerous thing I’ve heard him decree yet.”

Well, don’t forget to put President George Bush in that category, too, for saying the exact same thing... LOL...

This “idea” is not limited to Democrats, but seems to infect Republicans, too...


13 posted on 04/06/2009 4:03:37 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: MinuteGal; Milagros

You said — It’s RADICAL Islam we’re at war with, you creepy rodent!

Ummm..., well, I don’t believe that for a moment. It’s either “Islam” or “not-Islam” — there’s no such thing as moderate or radical Islam...

Those people who are called “radicals” (by the “ignorant West”) are simply “normal Muslims”... The Muslims who are called moderates are simply their version of our “RINOs”.... (i.e., Muslim in name only... LOL...).


14 posted on 04/06/2009 4:07:09 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Milagros
"we aren't in war with Islam"

Actually, we are or at least the eventual survivors are.

Feel free to join up, it's not too late.

15 posted on 04/06/2009 4:12:09 PM PDT by muir_redwoods ( O.B.A.M.A. = One Big Asinine Mistake, America)
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To: Milagros
You're certainly correct, but there's some psychological tricks that conservatives have to utilize (and which they're usually very bad at utilizing).

Type-casting a whole ethnic group as "radicals", including old seniles and young babies, does not get you the support from the prim and proper dopes who live next door to you. You may not care, but they vote too.....and you win by addition, not subtraction.

Conservatives too often want to use the sledgehammer instead of the stiletto.

Leni

16 posted on 04/06/2009 4:15:59 PM PDT by MinuteGal (FR Regional Convention (southeastern states) 4/25 Orlando....Y'all Invited. Freepmail Me for Info)
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To: Milagros

We are at war with radical Islam.

All Islam is radical.

To me, Islam is a political death cult, and does not rise to the level of a “religion”.

It brings death,destruction and enslavement wherever its adherents go.

It has a murderous pedophile for a founder, one who thinks he is above Jesus Christ in the holy pecking order.

If they want to believe all that, they need to go back to their sandbox and stay there.

It is time to speak plainly. They cannot be allowed to stay in the 7th centutry and drag the rest of us with them into it.


17 posted on 04/06/2009 4:22:58 PM PDT by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: Milagros

His statement can and should be considered an outright surrender. Disgraceful. We have been at war with this bunch for decades, just few were willing to accept it.
We weren’t at was war with Germans, only Hitler. Dare not offend those Germans. Now, what kind of logic is that?


18 posted on 04/06/2009 5:22:38 PM PDT by benasawin
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To: All

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The Koran has it all mapped out.
Those who are Muslims believe every word of the Koran.

Sura 33 “And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden” (33.27)

“Be patient with unbelievers until you have strength” (86.17).

“AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193

Quran 3:28 Don’t have unbelieving friends unless it is to deceive them. Remember the final goal is to Allah.

Quran 9:33 ISLAM WILL PREVAIL OVER ALL RELIGIONS

“ISLAM ISN’T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don’t need to look somewhere else.” OMAR M. AHMAD
CHAIRMAN OF CAIR,the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.

How quickly we forget what Muslims did to us-
as instructed by the Koran:

http://attacked911.tripod.com/

This awesome video should be required viewing yearly by every American.
It was made by a New Yorker who lived through it. It has been viewed millions of times and is now in the Smithsonian.

Those of us who read ‘The Obama File’, by our fellow FReeper, Beckwith, knew this long ago.
http://www.theobamafile.com/
Pay special attention to the ‘Islam’ and ‘Religion’ sections.

The United States Library of Congress has selected TheObamaFile.com for inclusion in its historic collections of Internet materials

How quickly we forget what Muslims did to us-
as instructed by the Koran:

http://attacked911.tripod.com/

This awesome video should be required viewing yearly by every American.
It was made by a New Yorker who lived through it. It has been viewed millions of times and is now in the Smithsonian.

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19 posted on 04/06/2009 6:10:19 PM PDT by patriot08
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