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Fan favorite Patrick out early in Honda GP after crash with rookie Matos [IRL season starts]
ChicagoTribune/AP ^ | April 5, 2009 | MIKE HARRIS

Posted on 04/06/2009 10:20:58 PM PDT by valkyry1

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) — Danica Patrick's season got off to a tough start after she crashed out early in the season-opening Honda Grand Prix.

She was running ninth in the 22-car field on Sunday when rookie Raphael Matos tried to pass as the two went into one of the tightest turns on the 1.8-mile, 14-turn temporary street circuit.

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KEYWORDS: 2009; danica; irl; patrick; petersburg
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To: Big_Monkey
Answer me one question: Has she made any history in the sport that doesn't include the words "first woman"?

Rookie of the Year in 2005 after finishing 12th in the IndyCar Series championship.
41 posted on 04/07/2009 8:00:55 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: Jimmy Valentine
"With a better car, she could improve her finish.

I'll concede your first point (about this last incident), but I think she has a great car. She drives for one of the best teams that compile information from two of the better drivers in the sport. Tony Kanaan has won at least 6 times (5 times more than Danica) with at least that many top threes driving the same car (to the extent that the cars can be the same)during the exact same time period.

If the car's not performing better, she only has herself to blame. As I said in an earlier post, Kanaan (and all the great drivers) knows how the car works. He can tell the chief engineer precisely what's wrong with the car making it much easier for the engineer and the technicians to set-up up the car for maximum speed at optimal handling. If Danica's car isn't performing as well as her teammate's, she only has herself to blame. But with her ego, you'll never hear her say that.

In fact, I can't ever remember he saying anything, but especially her performance, was her fault. It's always somebody else problem or mistake. That's my problem with Patrick.

42 posted on 04/07/2009 8:15:32 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: llevrok
Ok, before some one gets killed, get her off the track.

Didn't she hit some guy and kill him in a practice incident in Nashville early in her career? I'm not a racing fan, but seem to recall this happening.

43 posted on 04/07/2009 10:29:15 AM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: Big_Monkey
Tony Stewart is the lone exception.

I'm guessing you're kidding. Kenny Schrader, Jeff Gordon, Ryan Newman, JJ Yeley, and Kasey Kahne all came up through USAC.

44 posted on 04/07/2009 10:36:48 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Big_Monkey

And that’s just current drivers off the top of my head.


45 posted on 04/07/2009 10:38:27 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius
"I'm guessing you're kidding. Kenny Schrader, Jeff Gordon, Ryan Newman, JJ Yeley, and Kasey Kahne all came up through USAC. USAC, absolutely. I'd wager that almost all the NASCAR drivers have some form of open wheel experience in the youth, especially in carting.

But, I was speaking of the major open wheel circuits, like F1 IRL and Champ. Can you think of any of those drivers that have had real success in NASCAR?

46 posted on 04/07/2009 10:44:19 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Big_Monkey
But, I was speaking of the major open wheel circuits

That's pretty weak. USAC is THE open wheel sanctioning body in the United States. There's only one reason drivers leave open wheel to come to NASCAR, and it's not the racing: it's the money. If NASCAR runs short of money, these guys are going back to open wheel.

If you want to look back a little further, to when the different series allowed more switching, there are quite a few open wheel drivers that had success in NASCAR. Foyt and Andretti come immediately to mind.

47 posted on 04/07/2009 10:58:54 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Big_Monkey
I'd wager that almost all the NASCAR drivers have some form of open wheel experience in the youth, especially in carting.

Also, I think you'd lose this bet. I'd say it's closer to 50/50 between guys coming up through USAC on one hand and NASCAR or ASA on the other. 50/50 might even be high.

48 posted on 04/07/2009 11:52:35 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Publius Valerius
"Also, I think you'd lose this bet.

What? To be clear, you don't think that most of these drivers were carting LONG, LONG before they ever sat in a late-model or NASCAR track?

I don't think that's a bet I'd lose.

49 posted on 04/07/2009 11:55:30 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Big_Monkey
To be clear, you don't think that most of these drivers were carting LONG, LONG before they ever sat in a late-model or NASCAR track?

They might have sat in go-karts at sometime, but as far as organized racing goes, I'm saying that it's 50/50 at best between USAC and NASCAR/ASA.

50 posted on 04/07/2009 11:57:12 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Big_Monkey
Can't Disagree. I do not think you have to be an engineer,but you need to know enough about cars to intelligently describe what the issues are.

The cars have gotten too complex to not know something.

51 posted on 04/08/2009 3:36:33 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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