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Is there too much music? - It's everywhere... Are we in danger of being overwhelmed?
Telegraph UK ^ | 4:35PM BST 08 Apr 2009 | Neil McCormick

Posted on 04/08/2009 12:43:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise

Have you ever wondered if there might be too much music? A couple of weeks ago I attended South By South West music festival in Austin, Texas, where more than 2,000 up-and-coming bands, singer-songwriters and other musical performers played in just four days. Standing on the street at an intersection of venues where at least a dozen bands were playing at the same time, I was immersed in a kind of sonic cloud of formless music, an ambient hum of rock and roll...

...For most of the history of mankind, to hear music you had to either participate in the making of it in a social setting, or perhaps listen to the performance of itinerant musicians. The first major concert halls were built in Europe about 500 years ago. Little over 100 years ago, the phonograph brought music into the living rooms of ordinary people... More than 10 million pieces of music have been recorded and most of it is available (legally or otherwise) on the internet...

Recent research has established some interesting facts about our relationship to music. The average American hears more than 5 hours of music per day, yet a new survey suggests that American teenagers actually consumed and shared 19 per cent less music in 2008 than they did a year ago. CD sales were down (28 per cent) but download sales also fell (13 per cent) and even illegal downloads declined (six per cent). More pertinently, borrowing and swapping music between friends was down 28 per cent. 32 per cent of teens expressed discontent with the music available for purchase, while 23 per cent said they already have a large enough collection of music. Is it possible we are reaching some kind of saturation point?...

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: music; musicindustry; psychobabble; sxsw; sxsw2009
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1 posted on 04/08/2009 12:43:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: 537cant be wrong; Aeronaut; bassmaner; Bella_Bru; Big Guy and Rusty 99; Brian Allen; cgk; ...

There are certainly too many music “critics” (all living in the same echo chamber, considering the scope of available musical tastes being courted).

And too many music industry weasels trying to tell the public what band they SHOULD be listening to.


2 posted on 04/08/2009 12:43:56 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: a fool in paradise

I can hardly stand it. Even on tv now, regular programming has music in the background.


3 posted on 04/08/2009 12:44:18 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: Revolting cat!

And yet with all of this is another high profile release of the complete Beatles catalog...


4 posted on 04/08/2009 12:44:51 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: a fool in paradise

Since music died in 1972, the answer is NO — there is not too much music because there is NO music.

Crap to the ears, we have plenty of.


5 posted on 04/08/2009 12:45:10 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Is there too much oxygen? nitrogen? Its all around us... will we be overwhelmed


6 posted on 04/08/2009 12:45:25 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: a fool in paradise
"Too Many Notes"


7 posted on 04/08/2009 12:47:09 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: GeronL

Soros and Gates ask “are there too many millionaires”?


8 posted on 04/08/2009 12:47:16 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: sarasota

I agree, and commercials are the very worst. Often as not video ads are accompanied by some horrendous racket, usually sounding like someone beating on a garbage can lid with a baseball bat. Is this due to advertisers possibly thinking that teeners have short attention spans?


9 posted on 04/08/2009 12:48:43 PM PDT by donaldo
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To: a fool in paradise

Perhaps a better question is, “Is there too much CRAPPY music?” To which I answer an emphatic yes.


10 posted on 04/08/2009 12:48:44 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Common courtesy, like common sense, isn't.)
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To: JoeProBono

That looks pretty similar to the sheet music for “The Black Page.”


11 posted on 04/08/2009 12:49:30 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Common courtesy, like common sense, isn't.)
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To: JoeProBono

Just put John Cage’s 4’33” on repeat.

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/4’33%22

“4’33” is a musical composition written by avant-garde (non-traditional) musician John Cage. It is his most famous work. It consists of no notes, only 4 minutes and thirty-three seconds of silence. The piece challenges the definition of music. The only thing the sheet music says is “tacet”, or “break of silence”. It was first played by David Tudor in Woodstock, New York.


12 posted on 04/08/2009 12:51:24 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: a fool in paradise

Yes, there is too much music everywhere. You can’t get away from it.

There is a great lack of silence, peace and quiet everywhere.

I’ve written Starbucks about the excess music and volume in it’s stores and got a reply that said the “public wants it”. What Starbucks wants is to sell CD’s in it’s store.

Even book stores have music blasting all the time. Name one store or mall where there’s no music. I’d like to shop there.

People are afraid of silence. They might have to listen to their brain or even, gasp,...Think!

Music is aural pollution and graffitti when it is forced upon you in public places.

If you want music, listen to it at home or in your car (with the windows rolled up) or with a low volume MP3 player.

Noise kills.


13 posted on 04/08/2009 12:53:37 PM PDT by garyhope (It's world war IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam. VRWC. TWP.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Instead of a nation of doers we have become a nation of actors,guitar strummers and players. This is a symptom that we have become a frivolous people ripe for a fall.
14 posted on 04/08/2009 12:56:14 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
Perhaps a better question is, “Is there too much CRAPPY music?” To which I answer an emphatic yes.

Been that way a long time.


15 posted on 04/08/2009 12:56:18 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: garyhope
This is too much MERCHANDISING of music (it is subliminal product placement).

They are stuffing those songs into tv commercials for cars and softdrinks, at the checkout at Starbucks, on the armrests of airplanes...

If you go into Best Buy, they want to force free magazine subscriptions upon you to keep you tuned into Big Media's "tastemakers".

The industry needs to hang it up. Quit trying to CREATE the next big thing and instead keep their own eyes and ears open for what the public actually wants.

16 posted on 04/08/2009 12:59:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: a fool in paradise

I attended South By Southwest, there’s just enough music there. Great time, great music.


17 posted on 04/08/2009 1:00:21 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: freedumb2003

If your perspective about music revolves around so-called ‘pop’ music, it would be easy to agree with you.

One downloaded podcast of roots rock radio (rrradio.com), and you will find that indy roots rock is flourishing.


18 posted on 04/08/2009 1:01:23 PM PDT by dmz
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To: a fool in paradise
Ya bet there is too much. What is it about blasting disco music at a corporate gym? And at every class they hold there, they play what some ex-spurt decided is appropriate: more thumping disco at spin, new age at yoga, hip hop at jumping jack hopping class, AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!

Got to have "music". Americans are afraid of silence, of own thoughts, it seems.

19 posted on 04/08/2009 1:02:11 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

Yes, there is too much crappy music. The music industry has been in a tailspin for the past 20 years.


21 posted on 04/08/2009 1:04:18 PM PDT by Commander X (Liberalism: Spurring the decay of the USA)
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To: dmz

>>If your perspective about music revolves around so-called ‘pop’ music, it would be easy to agree with you.

I am very much talking about the now-lost music form known as rock.

“Indy” is a euphemism for “bad.”


22 posted on 04/08/2009 1:04:31 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: Commander X

The industry has been in a tailspin since Woodstock.

Corporate Rock of the 1970s sucked too.


23 posted on 04/08/2009 1:06:06 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: a fool in paradise

You do know, don’t you, that as a strict rule, American commercial television does not allow a second of silence, between programs, commercials, between anything? You notice it when you travel abroad and see television elsewhere. Got to have have noise here, boys!


24 posted on 04/08/2009 1:06:30 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: a fool in paradise

I’d take the music of the 70s any day over the schlock that is supposed to be music today.


25 posted on 04/08/2009 1:08:35 PM PDT by Commander X (Liberalism: Spurring the decay of the USA)
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To: freedumb2003

The term rock got co-opted. The same time communists (who’d formerly been staunchly folkies) started to dig electric guitars.


26 posted on 04/08/2009 1:08:44 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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27 posted on 04/08/2009 1:09:46 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Commander X

Don’t judge the music of today by what gets played on commercial radio.

The tastemakers are even squarer than Dick Clark and Jann Wener.

There are thousands of contemporary artists who don’t use that autotune processing on their voices. But they would sound out of place on the dial.


28 posted on 04/08/2009 1:12:53 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: a fool in paradise

Among the sweetest things about living in the country on a side road in your own house on your own land is the wonderful silence you can enjoy.


29 posted on 04/08/2009 1:14:16 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: a fool in paradise

There is far too much truly awful music, especially on commercial radio stations, which are utterly unlistenable no matter what genre they feature.


30 posted on 04/08/2009 1:14:54 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: freedumb2003
Every so often I will turn on the radio in my truck then I wake up and realize I had rather listen to the engine purr!
31 posted on 04/08/2009 1:18:15 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: pabianice
Among the sweetest things about living in the country on a side road in your own house on your own land is the wonderful silence you can enjoy.

Amen. Solitude and silence can be a blessing.

32 posted on 04/08/2009 1:23:54 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Obama as President is proof that GOD's judgement has come upon our once Christian nation.)
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To: pabianice

Until the government insists an international shipping highway must go through your land.


33 posted on 04/08/2009 1:25:34 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: dmz

Like anything, about 10% of it is worthwhile, the rest is formulaic crap. Most of it designed for over-the-hill emo kids looking for a brooding, moody alternative for the screamo silliness that defined them as children.

And for all it’s “indie-ness”, the stuff’s about as mainstream, image conscious and mass-marketed as music gets.


34 posted on 04/08/2009 1:26:14 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: a fool in paradise

>>Until the government insists an international shipping highway must go through your land.

Or the Vogons put an interstellar bypass through your planet...


35 posted on 04/08/2009 1:27:05 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Too much music? Where?

I hear almost none at home. No TV means the house is quiet most of the time, save for conversation, babbling baby, and snoring dogs. If there is music, it’s because I want to hear it.

I hear almost none when driving. Mostly just a few seconds of bumper music for talk shows, and the occasional ad (signal to change stations). If there is music, it’s because I want to hear it.

I hear most of my music at work. That’s because I use ad-free podcast DJ sets to mask background noise of office conversations and the factory across the hall. Being podcast driven, what I hear is the latest music compiled by DJs I trust as insightful.

Sure there’s some background music when shopping. Yes, BJs and Starbucks is playing it to sell it - ya see, hearing it is really the only way to know (as opposed to looking at covers), and more than once I’ve inquired “what song was that?” It _is_ a store, and their purpose _is_ to sell something, and my purpose _is_ to buy something - funny how sometimes it works out.

The only “saturation” happening in my paradigm is it’s so easy to pick up & hear music I generally like, so I’m disinclined to hunt down & attend live performances (which I usually find out about shortly after the fact).

You choose your lifestyle. Your choice has consequences.


36 posted on 04/08/2009 1:27:23 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: freedumb2003

“Indy” is a euphemism for “bad.”
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You could not be more wrong.

Hmmmm, 1972, eh? Exile on Main Street, perchance? Great record, and I understand we will soon see some additional tracks from the Exile sessions. I look forward to them.

Good music is a little more difficult to find, maybe, then it was back in the day, but there is a ton of good music being played by indy artists. I’m sure you realize that they are indy specifically because they may not be radio friendly. You know, kind of like most of the songs on Exile on Main Street (tumbling dice a notable exception).


37 posted on 04/08/2009 1:29:18 PM PDT by dmz
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To: a fool in paradise

BFL (as Haydn’s C Major Quartet plays on my desk stereo)


38 posted on 04/08/2009 1:29:18 PM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: freedumb2003
“Indy” is a euphemism for “bad.”

"Indie" is what "Alternative" was when it replaced "New Wave". It's a brand, that's all. The word "indie" in this case is as meaningless as calling Nine Inch Nails "industrial" was fifteen years ago. It's just an empty word... a label for teenagers to wear.

40 posted on 04/08/2009 1:40:59 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
.It's (Indy) just an empty word... a label for teenagers to wear.

I'll go with it -- I think it really just means "didn't sell many songs."

41 posted on 04/08/2009 1:44:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

And for all it’s “indie-ness”, the stuff’s about as mainstream, image conscious and mass-marketed as music gets.
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We are clearly talking past each other. The artists on the podcast I spoke of are unsigned, for whom mass marketing is putting up some posters around town for their next gig. Hardly mainstream.

These are folks who are writing and singing original songs, to the great detriment of their wallets. Folks want to go see cover bands, so they can sing along or put it in the background while they do whatever.

It’s a whole lot easier to cop someone else’s song than it is to write and arrange your own. All the work is done when you play covers.

I should know, I’m in one of those unsigned, not mainstream, write your own music indy bands.


42 posted on 04/08/2009 1:45:28 PM PDT by dmz
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

“Indie” is what “Alternative” was when it replaced “New Wave”. It’s a brand, that’s all.
_________

What you say has an element of truth to it, no doubt. But the truth of it is the easy part, the part of the iceberg above the waterline.


43 posted on 04/08/2009 1:47:54 PM PDT by dmz
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

“Indy” simply means “Independent”. Independent of the mainstream global music industry. Not dependent on the payola dispensing marketing departments (yes, Marketing!) of the major record companies, of which there are only four or five now in the entire world. Geez, is that so difficult to accept?

For a taste, check out, off the top of my head, the Pondering Judd, Don Dixon and Marti Jones, the Mermen.


44 posted on 04/08/2009 1:50:47 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: a fool in paradise

I learned long ago to ignore extraneous noise. If I like it I listen. If I don’t like it I don’t listen.


45 posted on 04/08/2009 1:59:08 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: R. Scott

The problem is that people are being conditioned to do the same with bad news. We are learning to disassociate.

Abortion means 50 million dead babies in America.
Treason means providing aid and comfort to our enemies in wartime.
The banking bailout means...


46 posted on 04/08/2009 2:04:45 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: a fool in paradise
Listen to Bob Wills. If the performer likes Bob Wills, the performer has an excellent background and is worth listening. OTOH, if the performer's background is Spears or P Diddy, it is not worth the listen.
47 posted on 04/08/2009 2:14:09 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Revolting cat!

I know what “Indie” is supposed to mean. Everything from The Decemberists to Bright Eyes (ack) to Death Cab for Cutie has copped the label... hence it’s utter meaninglessness.


48 posted on 04/08/2009 2:49:09 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Ack is right, I’m not up to who and what myself. I suppose that means look for the Independents who don’t use and abuse the label!


49 posted on 04/08/2009 2:53:41 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: a fool in paradise
It consists of no notes, only 4 minutes and thirty-three seconds of silence.

Finally, a musical composition anybody can play flawlessly!

Although I probably would blow it, as I assume giggling isn't permitted.

50 posted on 04/08/2009 2:57:12 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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