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Question about gun laws and ammunition in California (I NEED HELP!)
Hildy

Posted on 04/11/2009 8:46:58 AM PDT by Hildy

If there's someone out there who knows about gun laws and transportation of ammunition in CA, could you please let me know and I'll freepmail you privately about the question I have. Thanks so much! I don't know where else to go!


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; guncontrol; gunlaws

1 posted on 04/11/2009 8:46:58 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

We’re in CA, send me your question & I will ask DH for you.


2 posted on 04/11/2009 8:48:30 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: Hildy
If there's someone out there who knows about gun laws and transportation of ammunition?

On FreeRepublic?

3 posted on 04/11/2009 8:49:51 AM PDT by keat
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To: Hildy

Throw it all in a UHaul and get out of there.


4 posted on 04/11/2009 8:53:02 AM PDT by gundog
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To: gundog

Stop by my place and take us with you


5 posted on 04/11/2009 8:53:40 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Hildy

They still have the second amendment in the USSCA?


6 posted on 04/11/2009 8:54:59 AM PDT by mainestategop (MAINE: The way communism should be)
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To: Hildy

Go to the SOURCE: http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/


7 posted on 04/11/2009 8:58:58 AM PDT by Loud Mime (If Christians cannot unite in battle to save this nation, it will be lost)
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To: Hildy

- personal story - I used to live in CA. Had someone trying to get in my home at 1 AM. Called 911. San Jose Police were “too busy” - had a big drug bust going down. Said they could come over in a couple hours. Asked if I had a gun.

Yes, but it was not registered.

Told them I could take care of myself and would call them if things escalated. Moved back to Texas.


8 posted on 04/11/2009 9:06:44 AM PDT by tpmintx (Liberalism: Solving problems caused by Jealousy with solutions based on Lies.)
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To: Hildy

Not sure, I think you can just take it with you provided you have a permit. I hope you’re moving to a red state.


9 posted on 04/11/2009 9:07:42 AM PDT by rbosque (10 year Freeper!)
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To: Hildy

Stick it in your trunk and go. Unless the cops have probable cause, they cannot pull you over and search your car. Items in the trunk are not considered part of the passenger compartment.

Load n go.


10 posted on 04/11/2009 9:08:18 AM PDT by DownInFlames (C)
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To: Hildy

BRING THE FLAG WITH YOU WHEN YOU LEAVE!


11 posted on 04/11/2009 9:22:16 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: DownInFlames
Load n go is a close relative of shoot, shovel and shutup?
12 posted on 04/11/2009 9:24:57 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: tpmintx

unless i am missing something you dont need to register your gun in california where i live and there isnt even any way to do so.

ammo i dont think any restrictions.


13 posted on 04/11/2009 9:36:07 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: DownInFlames
The law says handguns must be unloaded and in a locked container. The trunk counts as a locked container, so you could throw a handgun in the trunk and keep the ammo separate.

Rifle may be in the passenger compartment, even in plain view and unloaded (I recommend a case or blanket at the minimum). If a cop sees the gun you will be searched and your entire vehicle, even though there is no probable cause. It is for their safety and the publics. They will also want to divine(they will use the word determine) what your intent is.

Don't take it onto an airport facility as they frequently search cars and you will be arrested. If you live in a large city SFO, NYC, etc, they frequently ask you to open your trunk for soft inspection before allowing entrance. They do not have the authority to touch or search your items but they can deny entrance to a parking facility.

14 posted on 04/11/2009 9:36:35 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: Hildy
In CA you may transport any firearm you legally own in your car if it is not loaded. Put your handguns in the trunk, put your ammo anywhere you want it but do not have it in your pocket or close to hand(where you could possibly load it quickly into your gun). If the cops ask you where you are going, and they will, say you have been shooting and are going home, or that you are going shooting, either at a range or in a public forest(which is still legal). Handguns must be locked in a box and the trunk qualifies for that, unfortunately your glove box doesn't. Ammo isn't a problem unless it is close to hand, but consider putting that in your trunk also.

All these things are taught in CCW classes and even if you can't get one in your county(I have one in mine, easy to get in a red county)you can benefit from the classes.

15 posted on 04/11/2009 9:47:26 AM PDT by calex59
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To: TYVets

“Load n go is a close relative of shoot, shovel and shutup?”

My Dad (now deceased) gave some pretty good advice, very close to your comment:

If you have to do something you “shouldn’t do”:

1. Don’t tell anyone you are going to do it.
2. Do it.
3. Don’t tell anyone you did it.


16 posted on 04/11/2009 9:48:11 AM PDT by LoneStarC
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To: LoneStarC

I recall reading somewhere how much higher the “unsolved crime” rate would be if perps would keep their mouths shut.

Braggers!


17 posted on 04/11/2009 9:50:09 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: Vendome
Not true in Kalifornia.
18 posted on 04/11/2009 9:52:23 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: mad_as_he$$

really? I’m in Kalifornia and that is my understanding


19 posted on 04/11/2009 9:55:33 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: LoneStarC

1. Don’t tell anyone you are going to do it.
2. Do it.
3. Don’t tell anyone you did it.

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Damn good advice !


20 posted on 04/11/2009 9:55:39 AM PDT by IrishMike (Liberalism is a psychological disorder and a dangerous mental illness.)
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To: calex59

We just have boxed ammo..They’ll be no gun.


21 posted on 04/11/2009 9:57:15 AM PDT by Hildy (Dr. King had a dream. Obama has an ELF who has a “plan”.)
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To: Vendome

The gun and the ammo must be BOTH locked up and physically separated by compartment or arms reach. If you do not want any problems. Sacramento Sheriff’s policy adopted by most of the State.


22 posted on 04/11/2009 10:01:21 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Hildy
No problem. You can move ammo anytime UNLESS it is by commercial means then you need permits etc.
23 posted on 04/11/2009 10:03:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Traveling with Firearms in California

HANDGUNS

California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not lawfully prohibited from firearm possession, and who resides or is temporarily in California, from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person provided the firearm is unloaded and stored in a locked container.

The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.

SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES

Nonconcealable firearms (rifles and shotguns) are not generally covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 12025 and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container. However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded while they are being transported. A rifle or shotgun that is defined as an assault weapon pursuant to Penal Code 12276 or 12276.1 must be transported in accordance with Penal Code section 12026.1.

REGISTERED ASSAULT WEAPONS

California Penal Code section 12285(c)(7) requires that registered assault weapons may be transported only between specified locations and must be unloaded and in a locked container when transported.

The term "locked container" means a secure container which is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.

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24 posted on 04/11/2009 10:04:00 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: mad_as_he$$

Locking them both up is best practice for least amount of hassle but not the law. It is a good idea, but not the law.


25 posted on 04/11/2009 10:05:34 AM PDT by Vendome
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Yea I know what the statute says. I am talking about how much hassle you want to have by the side of the road. I had a run in with a CHP “officer” near Susanville with ONLY a rifle in the vehicle - no ammo. He does not work for the CHP anymore. FOUR hours of “detained” time by the road.
26 posted on 04/11/2009 10:06:55 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Like I said, best practice to not get hassled. I still believe they will hassle you anyway, cuz U a “citizen”.

They will ask stupid questions which you must not answer:
Why do you have a gun?
What is your intent with a gun?
Where did you purchase?
Where are you going?
Where did you come from?
where have you been today?

Then they will repeat questions. The really good ones will engage you in a conversation and then innocuously repeat a question or two. The goal being to catch you in the slightest inconsistency in previous statement.

Again, I agree with your post, as a best practice.

I also have a link where the NRA describes the laws. It is on page two (2):

http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/CASL.pdf

27 posted on 04/11/2009 10:17:51 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: Hildy

If the ammo is boxed then you can put it anywhere in the vehicle, especially since you will not be carrying firearms. No gun to be loaded, no danger in the ammo. Not yet anyway!


28 posted on 04/11/2009 10:21:10 AM PDT by calex59
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To: mad_as_he$$

I have to ammend my post it is on page 3(not page 2)

http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/CASL.pdf


29 posted on 04/11/2009 10:28:51 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: Vendome
since the NRA will not be there to defend me i will not count on their position.

this was an odd case. I picked up the gun - which was mine - from the gunsmith school at the community college in Susanville. I laid it in the back of my Tahoe and proceeded down 395. At the spot where cell phones do not work the CHP has a speed trap. This punk pulls me over because he could not read my license plate (pure c$ap). Noticed the gun and pulled his and got all huffy. Before it was over I had the local CHP commander, the Sheriff's dept and myself in a three way verbal stand off. BTW I had a Kalifornia hunting license at the time so transporting the gun in the manner I did was perfectly legal. I could of even had it loaded (not one in the pipe). To make it short I got the little puke fired. A very good friend of mine was riding buddies with the CHP head of IA.

30 posted on 04/11/2009 10:37:41 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Like I said, “citizen”. They see no reason for you to have gun. Having one in plain view is just not good practice. I lived in Oklahoma and I would not travel with my gun where it could be viewed. The LEO would need to search my vehicle to lay his eyes on it.

Sadly, I was cleaning all my guns, while on a fishing trip and big swell came up and washed them all over board.

Oh, well...


31 posted on 04/11/2009 10:46:01 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: Vendome
Here in the rural West it is more unusual to see a vehicle without a gun in it than not when traveling the outback.
32 posted on 04/11/2009 1:10:23 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: calex59; All

Thanks to eveyone for their answers to my inquiry. As always, freepers pull through. I would ask the moderator to take this thread down, but it seems you guys are having fun..so..screw it!


33 posted on 04/11/2009 1:33:22 PM PDT by Hildy (Dr. King had a dream. Obama has an ELF who has a “plan”.)
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To: beebuster2000
unless i am missing something you dont need to register your gun in california where i live and there isnt even any way to do so.

All Handguns in the state need to be registered. See the link to the CAL AG's site above somewhere.
34 posted on 04/11/2009 5:04:41 PM PDT by tpmintx (Liberalism: Solving problems caused by Jealousy with solutions based on Lies.)
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To: tpmintx

you confused man.

handguns bought within the state dont need to be registered. if you import a handgun you need to fill out a form.

handguns arent, yet, registered in the state of calif.


35 posted on 04/11/2009 5:13:42 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: mad_as_he$$

Iuse to live in Oklahoma and we had a gun rack with the guns sitting right there in the window.

Funny, I never felt afraid when I saw people driving around with them.


36 posted on 04/12/2009 7:37:36 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: Hildy

Thanks for not asking the Mod to take this thread down. There is no reason to take any thread. They are used as bookmarks, debate and dissemanation.

Oh and we do have fun.

Post again, Join the NRA(they are only $25 clams a year and they are running a special right now. That’s right you can join for FREE. Why? Because they need a huge census of 2nd ammendment supporter to show congress their numbers)


37 posted on 04/12/2009 7:42:55 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: Vendome

“I use” to live in Oklahoma and we had a gun rack with the guns sitting right there in the window.

Funny, I never felt afraid when I saw people driving around with them.

fixed


38 posted on 04/12/2009 7:48:52 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: Vendome

I just received an email telling me about the free NRA membership. I let mine lapse years ago...I will renew.


39 posted on 04/12/2009 10:48:51 AM PDT by Hildy (Dr. King had a dream. Obama has an ELF who has a “plan”.)
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